soep you were way too polite and zero need to apologise there. not only was your post completely fine but his was out of line I have no idea why he is calling us out in this thread lol. as said you even made two suggestions which are clearly the most obvious alternatives to what's actually happening.

complaints usually mean "this is wrong, we should improve this or change this"
it's pretty hard and unnecessary in the current state to find something and say "that is good, but we should improve it!"

prop u have to stop telling everyone how to post. ppl don't want/need to listen to you as "our" leader, and not everyone has to agree with your line of thought.. 95% of the words in ur posts are you telling others what's wrong with their posts in your eyes (including "ur posts aren't helping")

wow 5.10 instead of 5.25 is so sick. Guess the last increase to 5.25$ 15 months ago was just a test.

Sorry I offended you. I am singling you out because, I think you are intelligent and sincere, and that the players respect your opinion, as do I. Apologies.

I don't know if we deny we need change. I realized a long time ago I cannot entice it. That's why I call on leaders like you. Demand change, from ourselves. There is better "poker" to be played imo.

From where I'm standing the only way to entice change is to vote with your wallets. Hit them where it hurts, let them know they can't just go in this direction, there will be push-back. That'll let other companies know there is a breaking point, too. If they don't care about that, then well.. it'll be an even quicker descent into oblivion.

Apart from that, you're relying on some stuff that we have no control over i.e.
a) Another company comes along that cares more about the players
b) Amaya gains a conscience
c) Leadership (i.e. new company taking over) stars
d) Other random **** (Misc)

None of these 4 things are likely.

Dnegs and most of the pstars pros have it good. They have vested interests not to rock the boat. Some of the pros have left, but amaya don't care. For every reg who cares enough to leave, they can sign up several who have no scruples.

With the direction they are going though, i don't think they are gonna do anything but decline faster and faster into a jackpot-esque unwinnable site.

mini million is massive, super addition to the schedule.

ENOUGH with these new accounts restating the problem in a way that shows they clearly don't understand. The nature of the problem is such that the players CANNOT vote with their wallets because Amaya owns the monopoly share of the industry. The WHOLE problem is exactly this. We don't have the options.

Yes players are migrating. But the crux of the issue is there can be no liquidity because a group of poker players cannot play a cooperative strategy.

The solutions, lie OUTSIDE this box. Continually talking about change inside the box, that cannot happen, is the trap we are stuck in.

This is clear.

man not everyone agrees with you, you're just out of line. you didn't offend me you annoyed me.
if your argument against his is Amaya owns the monopoly as you say why do you think the players can change anything? getting really derailed here but srsly just get over the fact that not everyone thinks the same as you.

You misunderstand me, and I watched you judge today without first considering the facts.

I don't know if you just questioned whether amaya has a monoply share of the market. They admitted before its over 70%. I should hold you to answering that because I think you implied otherwise.

This isn't a derail. PokerStars is making massively unfavorable changes and we are in a thread created to discuss these things.

Do you think that we cannot? Why do you spend energy on something that you cannot change?

I think we can change things yes, but first changing ourselves. There is only complaints going on right now. I ask us to move on. Isn't that changing things? We do you speak against my suggestion? Why would you spend time speaking against the one player that thinks we can enact REAL change.

I suggested we change the nature of negotiations to give the players more power, which will equate to mutually favorable benefits. You took a quick look (you never read my stuff with sincerity you admit this)...and dismissed it for the community. I don't ask you to agree, but at least acknowledge that I try. That's more than can be said about these posters you are sticking up for.

And yes I have had more material deleted than you will ever contribute. More attempts for positive change than you would believe. More ideas that the community has never heard yet. How do you feel about that. You directly contribute when you comment without having an idea about the context from which you are commenting.

Cliffs: me and you arguing over mute points is more constructive than a community of players complaining.

I obviously didn't deny they have an effective monopoly but using that as a reason why his points are so wrong also can be used as an argument why your huge brigade of the players unifying and making change has little hope either as these days they don't regally listen or care about the players. We can make some small suggestions to the MTT schedule or offerings for example but that's not really what you're talking about.

My point was why were all of your great posts deleted? I did read what you said yesterday and gave my opinion, I didn't "dismiss it for the community" that is nonsense. I am not the leader and simply said I don't see it working the way you think it will but will support it if it happens or others are in etc

I think what you should have said then is, "let's trying discuss this, together". Because I think that would have been change. I think rather somehow you protected your viewpoint and image instead.

I proposed something that is change. I should have asked you and others, if anyone thinks it will have a negative effect. Is anyone AGAINST the proposal?

You are A leader, if nothing else I define you as one. I cannot use my reputation to begin such an inquiry to the proposal, but I make this conjecture to you...

The moment we begin to sincerely discuss such a change in our negotiation habits, you will see undeniable change. I designed this proposal for players like you, the leaders, so that you can understand, or at least not be able to deny, that there is a possibility that a small handfull of reputable intelligent players CAN in fact influence the community and the situation positively for the benefit of the game.

The negotiation process for the mtt schedule game is broken, it is rigged against the players. I call on a better strategy and better poker.

I can't bring about the change by myself though, otherwise I would.

Same reason you wouldn't read them.

I simply want us to witness together what happens when we move in solidarity. The leaders of the boycotts were unintelligent and damaging. Boycotting cannot change things, its wasteful.

We need to make a small change together, something tangible we can all see and understand the benefits of. That is why I propose something to you that seems insignificant. It's meant to be small, but undeniably positive.

seriously?

The accounts are both older than yours and make more sense with their posts.

Is this the Alexo that donked off 30k to a rec and then came to the community with a sob story and tried to get the money back by trying to further bury the rec's life/reputation?

If you think about it, I'm probably ok with new account and not the fact that they keep appearing with ignorant unhelpful affirmations of the exact problem at hand. We need solutions here. Otherwise we are stuck infighting. The likes of you two have nothing to offer but attack.

Where are your solutions? Where is the part where you contribute? Where you care?

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My points will never make sense on the surface, because you are prejudice (new account), they are new, they are unique, they are not the social norm. Mostly importantly they will seem foreign because they are attempts at favorable change, which is observably rare in these times.

Haha even if people agree with you you come across as so (unintentionally??) aggressive and condescending people naturally want to take counter view. Have a look in the mirror and change your delivery if you want to elicit different results.

please add more of these 5.5 hyper psko ty

No "Rake boost" tag mention in the rebuy,hyper games??

FYP and no. They decided to hide the rake increase in plain sight as mentioned above.

I think it's unfair that addons are not raked. Please don't encourage winning regs to win even more, it's unfair that they have basically a free shot at free chips. Please change that asap.

it appears turbo 180 man sng rake has increaased too

2.50 180mans now 2.25 + .25 im sure they were 2.28 + .22 before right?

reg speed 180mans (4.50) have also had a rake increase.
4.00 + .50 compared to 4.10 + .40

Solid work pokerstars you deceptive ******

Keep calm guys, addons are being raked as well. Rake has been increased in all 180s.
And as a a bonus for us:

regspeed 180s being increased is the most outrageous sht ever wtf

gotta rake the recs in the 4 reg speeds trying to buiild their br or play a good game to balance the ecosystem though

Soon they will die. I don`t see how this 180s 3r will be beatable from now on when the average rebuys is 2.5 and addon.
That`s a minimum of 0.7$ increase of rake/game.

increase all 180man starting stacks to 2k and t 500