Well in that case should not all winnings in MTTs be T$ to not leave the MTT eco system?

No way early payouts could be T$, it would make a decent change into a horrible one and another cash grab, please no.

Why is it decent in normal cash and a cash grab in t$?

Why would they withhold money won legitimately in a tournament? I suppose it would be hard to snap convert it right after 1-1. It is your win, T$ is not a win, it's like a voucher to a store.

Yeah, you have to play a raked game to use that money. So in the end you get ~90% of your winnings cashed out, assuming you are break even before rake.

Think about satting into the milly in a 2$ Splash, mincashing for ~300$ and then having 300 T$ on an account that has an average of 20$ usually on it. You really want people to play 300$ worth of tournaments instead of being able to cashout (at least partially?)

I mean... both yes and no depending on which side I look from.

If I am a reg on $200+ in MTTs, of course I want players that usually play $20+ MTTs in the field, more inexperienced people means more money for me then, right?

Then again, if I am used to play $20+ MTTs and I win $300+ I would maybe want to withdraw most of it and maybe keep $50-$100 to keep playing with or something

I meant guys that have 20$ on their account, not ABI 20$. So yeah, that guy would have to play 200x 1.5$ 45man or something like that.

I can't believe this is a discussion, it is a min-CASH in a tourney, of course it will be paid in cash, as it should be. It's not a bonus sum or satellite ticket, it's simply paying out the minimum payment to everyone who cashes a tourney the second the bubble busts and then paying out the balance as you actually bust/win the tourney.

You guys are mostly overthinking this I'm pretty sure.

And I would say most MTT recreational regs, play 1-4 tables at a time and will like getting that cash back as they don't keep a "bankroll" but rather load money as they feel like playing some tourneys. I don't see it having a huge effect on people actually loading up mid to high stakes tourneys, but below that it will have a great effect I imagine.

It's the more the fact that anything is possible with amaya in charge. Back in the old days no one would have questioned it.

lol... This is absolutely ridiculous

+1

Thinking/suggesting that early payout might/should be payed in T$ is really stupid/irational/selfish imo... is your money that you had won playing some mtt, its a win and as every win u should receive real $ and do w/e you want with those $ ( withdraw, play other mtt, play cash, play spin, play sat, send/borow to friend, casino, sports)...

Paying out in T $ ( even thinking in that direction) imo is turning this positive change into very bad one for everyone because now you will receive way less $$ for geting ITM ($ for # u finished) - ( min cash in T $)... for ex in 215$ mtt if min cas is 300$ and next pay jumps are 350/400/450 or w/e in order to make some profits and be able to withdraw/play cash or w/e you need to have deep runs every where because if u dont you are stuck in circle and you are just getting "vauchers" to play and produce rake because u payed 215$ abd you win 300 T $ ( vaucher) and to be able to withdraw those 215$ you buy in into that mtt in fist place you need to have deep run and i feel that this most people will find really absurd and very very unmotivating to play MTT

Btw i also think is positive change for all, i think ACR is doing that for every payjupm and never hear someone complaining about it...

Hey as I mentioned, the literal only reason that thought has come up is because Amaya is doing everything in their power to direct the flow of rec money into low edge games of high variance. I d never have issues with sites like Winamax doing such a thing (they do- any cash above 1500€ gets a 150€ mtt main event ticket)
Amaya has out the seed of doubt in my mind and I think that train of thought is completely not out of line given history.

As u can also read, my first impression of this change was positive.

Few weeks ago I've suggested changing 6-max PSKO tournaments final table to 7-handed play like with all remaining 6-max comps. It still hasn't been changed, even though PokerStars.ES 6-max PSKO tournaments are already starting FT with 7 players. Any chance this would be changed in future?

I think imbalanced tables on sFT bubble with 3/4 players are bad for game's balance, especially given non-turbo tournaments are fairly deepstacked at this stage and bubble tends to last very long, being EV- to any medium/shortstack on the shorter table.

For some reason, tables wont automatically load after registering sats. Happened twice already. First with the $2.20 twin turbo mega sat and now again with $5.50 on demand hyper sat. Had to manually open the lobby and click on take your seat. Also, I'm not seeing "would you like to re-enter" in re-entry sats, instead it just says "I have finished the tournament".

Anybody else facing this issue? Manually loading the tables?

Paying the min cash in t$ would probably scare away some players that try to sattelite into bigger tourneys. This would probably make the fields tougher and in the end be worse than if someone punts away his money in the casino.

yup happened to me as well in some on-demand ones.

happens to me since ages, I kinda just live with it.

So just out of curiousity, are there any plans on making some kind of turbo series for low/mid stakes?
Would have loved to sharpen my turbo game and play some $11/$22/$55 turbo series

Also I will say it one more time, I miss the phase tourney

I just saw the highroller series in the client, nice! However why is so many of the events turbo? When people are investing the amounts of money we're going to be investing during the HR series we want to play slow regspeed tournaments and so do the recreational participating in these events... They are the people that hate having to go all in the most and want to be able to play longer what the investment they make... Slightly shorter levels for the late slot could be fine or like progressive structure so it starts at like 5 mins and then the level times increase the deeper the tournament gets, but so many turbos right after TCOOP is over is very unappealing

+1

The turbo's are all starting several hours after a regular speed tournament. This allows highstakes players to play all tournaments. Two regular speed tournaments starting with several hours in between would make it impossible to play the second one if you're not willing to play for 14+ hours.

Can start the tournaments closer together and most of them are two day events anyways so it won't matter.

Any chance on some kind of "Daily Double Deuce"? I really like the sunday version, would be great to have the same tourney during the week, with a lower guarantee ofc.

dibs on that.

Hey Luke, it would be nice if you bring back the old leaderboard of the MicroMillions with Sunday Million tickets for the first 100 players! And please, don't make a lot of them $1.10 please.. Make it $3.30-$5.50 etc. $1.10 is so boring.