gg poker in germany?

no issues here...

Yes your about a month late to the party

theres a thread in nvg

Is it only me or has re-entry possibility been lowered generally from last years series?
I like it, just want confirmation...

Of ALL the Sunday Kickoffs, Warmups, Millions, Super Tuesdays and Thursday Thrills, only 2 allows one re-entry and it's the half price ST and TT week 1.
Right?

PS. Why are ST and TT on week 2 three-days but not the week 3 versions?

u live in the north ? the place that gave out the only license in germany might have sth to do with that

I like the new satellite policy, both for online and live events.
If you don't like playing from start there's an easy solution - just buy in directly.

Do you have a link to this new policy or where did you find this info?

nvm, found the info on live events sats..
http://www.pokerstarsblog.com/en/blo...s-167859.shtml

still fine here ( niedersachsen )

Last post before WCOOP begins on Sunday. GL everyone!

Which posts made you assume this? I don't think I've seen anyone suggest that all MTT satellites are restricted to those who haven't won a seat. I've discussed the policy in this thread and am happy to answer questions regarding it.

• All WCOOP Event satellites will be must-play.
• Players can play as many Spin & Go/Sit & Go satellites as they like.
• MTT satellites to the High Rollers and $5,200 Main Event will be restricted to players who haven't won a seat.

And I appreciate you asking the questions.

For the Main Event and High Rollers, this is all correct. It would not allow you to register to an MTT satellite if you already have an active registration in the target.

We'll be launching more satellites today. I'm not terribly hot on MTT feeder satellites, but I do think we should offer Sit & Go satellites to the popular pink satellites.

We do plan to have a larger range of available buy-ins for Events. Check the client later today and there will likely be something for these players to join!

Yes, and I'm curious to hear what this group thinks about the policy change!

Thanks for the feedback. Tickets and forced registrations both have their upsides and downsides. We've tried different systems now for both SCOOP and WCOOP. Simply put, the feedback seems to be that players don't mind satellites being must-play or restricted to non-qualifiers, but each system is a bit inconvenient. We're going to take this feedback and see if we can find a future solution.

Thanks for the feedback.

Had a PM exchange with this user. Not sure what caused this, but it is not GG poker in Germany.

The amount of re-entry is nearly identical year-on-year, but the distribution may have changed. I've always preferred to allow re-entry in the non-NLHE games. There's plenty of NLHE to play during our *COOPs.

As for the middle Super Tuesday/Thursday Thrill, these tournaments always take an extraordinary amount of time. For the $530 versions, we simply have a bit of a faster structure since we anticipate big crowds. The $2,100 buy-ins will have smaller fields and thus won't last as long despite using the same structure as the $1,050 versions.

I've had that message when grinding on mobile internet

WCOOP-L beginning on Monday, not on Sunday??

If you win a seat to the Main through an MTT sat, what happens if you simply unregister the Main then? Technically blocked to do that? (would make sense).

Every sat policy have ups and downs as you put it Luke.
But a slight change to the current solution would probably be optimal long-term:
Instead of being forced to play from start of an event you could implement a server feature that - when only ~10% of late reg period remains - checks if a player with a ticket is registered or not. If not, the player is auto-registered regardless if connected or not.

Then you could just inform this with a pop up for every satellite for it.

All low events are a day after high events.

Question regarding PSC (or Festival) sats.

With the new changes limiting players to one of each a seat and a seat+package, what happens if we happen to cash 2+ in the same day? When these run on sundays and you can fire3 of them it's not impossible to cash 2+ of them in the same day.

Do we just lose the value of the second seat? If so, this would limit people to playing only one at a time even before they've won a seat (which seems sort of dumb).

If there isn't already one, can we not make an amendment that allows us to win 2+ seats provided the satties all started the same day (or something to that effect)

Whats the issue Luke with having feeders to big satellites?

Inb4 stars fix: run only one sat a day

Hey all quick questions on these wcoop satellites.


I play a few satellites to the regular big tournaments. So if i win a seat to that tournament, i would be automatically registered to that current tournament already running. But say if i win another seat to the same tournament, i know that i get tournament dollars for it instead. Thus its the same as being used to buy into tournaments etc.


1. Now what i want to know is if you play say 3 satellites to the same wcoop event... let say its to a WCOOP 215 or 530 or 1050. The buyin can be 11, 27 or 55 or 109 dollar the satellites. If you win a seat, you automatically are registered to that tournament. But if you win a seat to it but the tournament does not start yet, are you allowed to unregister for T dollars or not? Im assuming if you win a seat to this tournament, you cannot unregister for the 1st ticket? But any more seats you win, you will automatically get T dollars for every 2nd or 3rd seat etc?


2. Someone mentioned that you could only win 1 seat to the 5200 dollar main event. So if you win a seat to it, you have to play it and cannot unregister right? I believe this is the only exception where if you win a ticket, you have to play? The other thing is what if you are playing 2 satellites that are running around the same time to the 5200 dollar main event? Well wouldn't that mean you cannot do this because you can only win 1 seat to it? Or is this not possible because there are no 2 satellites to the 5200 dollar main event that runs at once? I read this doesnt apply to those ppl who play those 6 max hyper turbos which makes sense.


3. Does anyone know how long typically these wcoop events take? Im guessing its like 21 hours minimum? I took a look and it says day 1 is done after 35 levels. So im assuming its around 11 or 12 hours for day 1? Also does anyone know how long it takes to make the money in these tournaments for the low vs high wcoop? Im assuming for the low wcoop tournaments, you won't make the money until at least 8 hours into it ? And the high wcoop tournaments, im assuming you wont make the money unless you make it to the end of day 1? And some tournaments you wont make the money unless you make it to day 2 etc?


4. Just a general question here. But is wcoop profitable for most good players or not? Seems like majority of players would be down a lot of money whereas very few make a lot? I guess you can say this about mtt in general but it seems events like wcoop and scoop can make or break a player?


5. Is there a reason why these levels are so long and so deep? Yes i know these tournaments are longer since almost all these tournaments are 2 day events. But do most players prefer 2 day events vs 1 day? Obviously the slower the structure and bigger the stack, there is more play. Im assuming a player who late regs these events are still fine right since it just starts super deep stack and long levels? Someone here mentioned in scoop i believe that they did not enjoy playing like 8 hours just to make it to the money... and the min cash was less than the buyin etc...

All your questions are answered above by Luke. Your reading comprehension skills need some work. If you read the thread you will also get your answers to questions 4 and 5. Amazing what research can do

Luke, will you be running mtt feeder sats for $1,050 non holdem/omaha events? Earlier if I remember you could qualify for these H events even with buy in as low as $11 but this was not seen in this year's scoop and I guess we wont be seeing this again in this wcoop. I can understand that as it would only clutter the lobby if you added these mtt feeder sats for every events but for these other games, its not a bad idea. (Sng sats would rarely run even for $55 buy in mega sat).

Why in seven hells your prizestructures are so super awful joke?

48th place receives $409,30 in 530$ NLO8 WCOOP. And it's still not in full guaranteed.

Good catch.

Luke, please get this straightened out ASAP. Based on some quick spot checking I've done, there appears to be wildly underpaying min-cashes set up for the 8-MAX pay tables. If these events that I looked at meet their guarantee, a min-cash will pay the player less than $400 for a $530 event.

Better double check them all (not just 8-MAX events) before this becomes a bigger issue than just Event 4.

Specific example:

Event 62:

500+30 PL O8 8-MAX
150,000 guarantee

If the event gets 300 players, the prize pool will be 150,000
39 players will be paid
Places 32 through 39 will receive $312.72
Places 24 through 31 will receive $442.26, so not even the second payout tier wins their total entry cost back.

That can't be on purpose can it?

WTF is the payout structure in the 530 nlo8, in a small field re-entry the mincash is $380.

Whoever made this structure is beyond moronic.

Legit tilted about how stupid this payout structure is.

Edit: I told my fiance about it.

He's never played a full mtt in his life.

He said: "wait what....?
the ****?"

"thats...the dumbest thing I have ever heard"

Hey everyone,

Day 1 is in the books! Any feedback on structures?

No, you won't lose value for the 2nd seat. You'll receive T$.

It creates an extraordinary amount of lobby clutter. There's already hundreds of WCOOP satellites in the lobby at any given time, so I'd prefer to not add to this unless there is a strong reason to do so. One possible solution could be to run On-Demand satellites.

Do you have any specific suggestions for feeders?

I am not responsible for Live Events satellites, but I think it is a given that with the policy change comes a change in strategy for the offering as well.

If we can't get Sit & Go satellites to run to the 1/20 regular speed satellite, I don't think there is a strong argument for running MTT satellites. Let's see how the first few Events go first, though.

No, it was a mistake on my part and will be amended for all future tournaments. I believe this issue only exists in 8-max pay tables for High Events with a 9-handed final table, but we'll check all of the pay tables I created for this WCOOP. Apologies for this!