[OFFICIAL] PokerStars MTT Thread
@c o on - pko sats are being tested now. You might be interested in playing those Search for 'test' in text filter
Because of the simple fact that the only reason the schedule is so over saturated with pkos is that Stars gets to rake and re re re rake money much more effectively if instead of 15% of the field roughly 40% of the field get money back, there a less money in final tables there a less importance in deep runs the correct strat in them is to gamble like crazy. They don't make good championship tourneys. They are good on the side but the whole premise just doesn't suit a big series imo.
E: BountyCOOP would be better than TCOOP. I understand why Greedmaya is pushing PSKO formats with ever increasing % KO, but I really doubt and hope they aren't ******ed enough to kill the biggest prestige tournament series of the year.
And I'm not sure if the PKO feature is significant enough to compensate for the bubble toughness (the turbo $0.55 sat will award 22 seats to $5.50 MM-70, the hyper $0.55 one - 9 seats). If you have one of the nine $5.50 seats almost secured, you're not going to risk your stack to grab a $1-2 bounty.
hey luke, any update on wcoop please?
man you got stamina
Because of the simple fact that the only reason the schedule is so over saturated with pkos is that Stars gets to rake and re re re rake money much more effectively if instead of 15% of the field roughly 40% of the field get money back, there a less money in final tables there a less importance in deep runs the correct strat in them is to gamble like crazy. They don't make good championship tourneys. They are good on the side but the whole premise just doesn't suit a big series imo.
As for the correct strategy, it's not as trivial as you seem to think.
PKO God, grant me the patience to wait for a fatter value spot when I'm short,
The courage to gamble when it's worthwhile even vs tight ranges and potential overcallers,
And the wisdom to know the difference between the two scenarios.
The champion stands out in a PKO even more than in a non-KO tourney (despite winning fewer BIs) because he's the only one who gets his own bounty. The 2nd-9th place finishers indeed get a lot less, but a championship is all about the 1st place
As for the correct strategy, it's not as trivial as you seem to think.
PKO God, grant me the patience to wait for a fatter value spot when I'm short,
The courage to gamble when it's worthwhile even vs tight ranges and potential overcallers,
And the wisdom to know the difference between the two scenarios.
As for the correct strategy, it's not as trivial as you seem to think.
PKO God, grant me the patience to wait for a fatter value spot when I'm short,
The courage to gamble when it's worthwhile even vs tight ranges and potential overcallers,
And the wisdom to know the difference between the two scenarios.
How have WCOOP dates not been announced yet - I am making travel plans for September & October just guessing when WCOOP will start.
Please give us the dates!
Please give us the dates!
yeah, we really need at least dates for WCOOP. People need to make their plans if pokerstars do not want us to miss it all
No doubt a pointless post but i'll proceed anyway.....
MicroMillions $5r and $3r got $233k and $109k prize pools respectively.
Bare in mind that the 3r which got 109k was at 7pm UK on a Monday night!
The regular $5r $3.5k gtd at 6pm UK time one hour before the MM generated a prize pool of around $4k.......
The current rebuy offering is essentially set up to be terrible, however it's still a format that players love and there is evidently still a huge market for a decent sized small/medium stake (3r, 5r, 7r or 11r) rebuy tournament on the schedule, whether it be a specific nightly or weekend special. All it takes is some effective labelling and jobs a gooden. It's basically a 100% guarantee to be a success. Remember the great 8r $40k gtd sunday edition as well as the 81r1a. It really is a simple addition to the schedule that would be a huge improvement.
Also: WCOOP dates please!
MicroMillions $5r and $3r got $233k and $109k prize pools respectively.
Bare in mind that the 3r which got 109k was at 7pm UK on a Monday night!
The regular $5r $3.5k gtd at 6pm UK time one hour before the MM generated a prize pool of around $4k.......
The current rebuy offering is essentially set up to be terrible, however it's still a format that players love and there is evidently still a huge market for a decent sized small/medium stake (3r, 5r, 7r or 11r) rebuy tournament on the schedule, whether it be a specific nightly or weekend special. All it takes is some effective labelling and jobs a gooden. It's basically a 100% guarantee to be a success. Remember the great 8r $40k gtd sunday edition as well as the 81r1a. It really is a simple addition to the schedule that would be a huge improvement.
Also: WCOOP dates please!
Can you please move the $5,50 deep stack at 19:15 CET to maybe 18:15 CET? It's just like one hour too long in the night/morning... This tournament just perfectly suits me so it's hard to ignore it, but one hour earlier would be the nuts
Luke's out of the office for a change.
Shock I know.
Shock I know.
+1
Lol no way. It's good how it is.
Hey everyone,
Lots to catch up on! First of all, I'll be posting an initial WCOOP schedule both here and on our Discord server this week. There will be a small window to provide feedback, so make sure you take a look when the opportunity presents itself! WCOOP 2017 will run from September 3rd-26th.
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Thanks mate, always appreciate the feedback. Apologies that I wasn't clear about PKO satellites. As Vincent mentioned, I was speaking in terms of what I thought was technically possible today. We ran some tests yesterday and they seemed to work as intended, ending when the seats were reached. We'll run some more tests in the short term, but here's a few considerations:
If you have any thoughts on the above, please let me know!
For some short amount of time around Friday/Saturday, our SNG satellites disappear in order to allow time for us to deploy them for the next week.
Forwarded this on to the responsible person and had it fixed. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.
And the fjords were amazing! Seven days of standing on scary rocks, driving, and spending 24/7 with my lady was just what the doctor ordered.
Are you a fan? If so, why?
The above is a good explanation of how the filters work. If there’s a filter for a particular attribute, then unticking that filter means you won’t see anything with that attribute. In general, the filters cover most cases for the majority of our players. For those who want to dig a bit deeper, I'll always suggest the text box.
I've passed this feedback on to our SNG manager, who made the change to a $3.30 buy-in. I agree that in cases such as this one where it is only 5 cents from a standard buy-in, the SNG buy-ins should change.
This is a clever idea to get around the technical issue I *thought* we would have, but it doesn't seem to be needed! Thanks for giving it some thought.
It is never this simple! In addition to determining whether or not the feature would be a net positive, the requirements need to be written and it needs to be weighed against other development items and then, finally, prioritized. Once it is prioritized, resources need to be allocated from the pool of developers.
I would much rather put something in front of the players immediately and see if it is possible to tweak it within our existing framework. That is why I think Vincent's idea above is great. It isn't a detrimental experience and doesn't require development. All that said, I'm open to more ideas!
We don't have the ability to turn a tournament into a shootout after it has started, so we came up with this solution. Basically, it plays as Zoom until four players remain in order to ensure that the final two tables are heads-up matches leading to a final table of the two winners.
I agree that the NLHE Sunday Grand has been a subpar performer, but what would you do with the PLO? Change to $530 as well? Should they allow re-entry?
In order to determine what is best for the Bigs, it will take some extensive data analysis. We'll have to look at overall tournament length, participation over time, time slots, buy-ins, and much more. It is no small task to determine what to do with this product. I appreciate all the suggestions that have been made, but the Bigs are not going to be changing before WCOOP.
I like the Bigger/Hotter names, and I suspect you might be right that bringing the names back would, on its own, have an impact. However, I feel it would be disingenuous and would shortly remove the value from the special names. In short, I want there to be actually be something bigger or hotter about them.
This was a bug and is in the process of being fixed.
Some changes were made to the structures last week:
Regular speed: 12 minute levels when four tables remain and 15 minutes when two tables remain
Turbo speed: 8 minute levels when two tables remain
Hyper-turbo speed: 5 minute levels when two tables remain
Have passed on this feedback to our SNG manager, thanks.
Later this week. Back to the grind!
There is no Last Man Standing, but instead we have the MicroMillions Invitational which has $25K added. I like this promotion because even those who have limited time to play still have a chance to qualify. You can find it in the lobby under Events / MicroMillions / Invitational Freeroll.
I tend to agree with this. In retrospect, we should have had a cap on this tournament. Lesson learned for next time.
How would one random tourney be similar?
No tournaments have been added, we just changed the structure so that level times beyond the Zoom portion of existing tournaments are longer.
No, we're not waiting until after Barcelona. I should be editing it now instead of posting here!
The level times for MicroMillions are as deep as they can be for one day tournaments. They are not 8 minutes throughout - they change to 10 minutes once late registration closes. Many of them also have longer levels deeper in the tournament.
Thanks! And sick join date, btw.
I agree that changing the Sunday Grands would require more than just a buy-in change. We'd need to get in touch with players who used to play the Sunday 500, or more generally, high stakes tournament players.
What does your ideal Sunday look like? What else would you change? Although I know change doesn't come as quick as you like, providing the feedback gives us context when it does come time to dig into the schedule and make these changes. We're working hard on WCOOP so that we can attempt to get ahead of the curve a bit and back to focusing on the schedule.
Will you give a more thorough explanation as to what you don't like and how you would improve it?
The point about why we offer them has been discussed to death, but I do not disagree with the point about PKOs in major Series. This was a point that Team Pro Online brought up when they visited earlier in the year. SCOOP did not see a significant increase in how many PKOs were on offer, nor will WCOOP. I'll happily let you know what the year on year difference is once the schedule is posted.
Lots to catch up on! First of all, I'll be posting an initial WCOOP schedule both here and on our Discord server this week. There will be a small window to provide feedback, so make sure you take a look when the opportunity presents itself! WCOOP 2017 will run from September 3rd-26th.
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Hey luke about pkos sats
WHO IS SAYING THAT PKO NEED TO BE PLAYED TILL WINER??? That its not even close to the idea and so absurd to think that way lol.
TO MAKE IT CLEAR
IN ZOON PKO SATS WHEN PLAYERS GET ITM( TICKETS AWARDED) SATS END/ STOPS, AND EVERY ONE GET THEIR OWN BOUNTY THEY HAVE AT THE MOMENT OF THE END OF THE SATELLITE CREDITED TO THEIR ACCOUNT ( for ex 18 seats/19 left/ when 19 player bust all 18 players left get ticket + their own bounty on their head that they have at that moment is credited to their account and satelite stops/end here, so all players that get tickets get extra $ from their own bounties that they have at the moment of the end of the satelite, it is not going to be played to winner, $$$ from bounties will be distributed to all ticket winers, so they can use those $ to register other mtts or play cash and generate more rake and open more chests and every one will be happy #moreRakeIsBetter)
Btw first ticket/seat won= must play (because imo this will get very popular and people should start grind them, and again generate more rake, open chest, all happy all smiles etc etc you know the drill #moreRakeIsBetter )
X x X
About changing majors schedule my suggestios are
-Instead of hot 162$ = hot 82$
-Instead of big 215$ =big 162$
-Instead of sunday 1k$ = sunday 500$
-Add some 22$/55$ 1r1ad mtt some where in 14h-15h CET time slot variable lvl 5/6/8/10/12min and i imagine one in that 22$ rush slot will do fine( obv no rake on r/ add but guess you cant do that so make it 3xN stack)
-Also as i previosly sugested i want to see 55$+ buy in phase mtt with big guarantee and big first prize
P.S. one more thing, can we get some clown coming out from chests when we open them and make him throwing coins/tickets/$$ etc, that will be so much fun and every one will love it smth like this https://youtu.be/qqqG-ZJL6us
and obv make pokerstars 7 years + join age, #oneTime #vamooooooo
WHO IS SAYING THAT PKO NEED TO BE PLAYED TILL WINER??? That its not even close to the idea and so absurd to think that way lol.
TO MAKE IT CLEAR
IN ZOON PKO SATS WHEN PLAYERS GET ITM( TICKETS AWARDED) SATS END/ STOPS, AND EVERY ONE GET THEIR OWN BOUNTY THEY HAVE AT THE MOMENT OF THE END OF THE SATELLITE CREDITED TO THEIR ACCOUNT ( for ex 18 seats/19 left/ when 19 player bust all 18 players left get ticket + their own bounty on their head that they have at that moment is credited to their account and satelite stops/end here, so all players that get tickets get extra $ from their own bounties that they have at the moment of the end of the satelite, it is not going to be played to winner, $$$ from bounties will be distributed to all ticket winers, so they can use those $ to register other mtts or play cash and generate more rake and open more chests and every one will be happy #moreRakeIsBetter)
Btw first ticket/seat won= must play (because imo this will get very popular and people should start grind them, and again generate more rake, open chest, all happy all smiles etc etc you know the drill #moreRakeIsBetter )
X x X
About changing majors schedule my suggestios are
-Instead of hot 162$ = hot 82$
-Instead of big 215$ =big 162$
-Instead of sunday 1k$ = sunday 500$
-Add some 22$/55$ 1r1ad mtt some where in 14h-15h CET time slot variable lvl 5/6/8/10/12min and i imagine one in that 22$ rush slot will do fine( obv no rake on r/ add but guess you cant do that so make it 3xN stack)
-Also as i previosly sugested i want to see 55$+ buy in phase mtt with big guarantee and big first prize
P.S. one more thing, can we get some clown coming out from chests when we open them and make him throwing coins/tickets/$$ etc, that will be so much fun and every one will love it smth like this https://youtu.be/qqqG-ZJL6us
and obv make pokerstars 7 years + join age, #oneTime #vamooooooo
- If the target is $10 and we want to ensure that 3 seats are guaranteed, the guarantee on a tournament where 50% of the buy-in goes to the bounty prize pool needs to be $60. What will happen is that the tournament will be titled "3 seats guaranteed" but will show 6 seats in the tournament lobby. As players register, the number of seats awarded will go DOWN to exactly 3 before increasing again. This will cause confusion, and might be enough of a reason on its own to not do these (or at least a reason to not have guarantees).
- We need to determine what the optimal split between bounty prize pool and cash prize pool is. The two tests we ran were 50/50 and I feel that too many players finished outside of the money while still winning significant prizes. I think that the amount of money in the bounty prize pool needs to be lowered, probably to 33% or 25%.
- We need to communicate how this works! While most players love Progressive KOs, this format could be confusing.
If you have any thoughts on the above, please let me know!
Oops, when I was writing that post, I wasn't paying attention to the fact that the $3.30 tickets won in spins can't be used in the MTT satellites at all - they're only vaild for on-demands and events. So indeed, my choice is between playing $3.30 events and playing those sats to the main that don't allow unregistration and have ~25-player bubbles (lol). Of course I choose the former option, and this means that I'm not going to play too many of those spins and therefore not going to do much harm to their ecosystem.
Enjoy the fjords, Luke!
Enjoy the fjords, Luke!
And the fjords were amazing! Seven days of standing on scary rocks, driving, and spending 24/7 with my lady was just what the doctor ordered.
Speaking more about filters...
When, in the Events -> MicroMillions 13 -> Events tab, I open the Event Filter and, in the 'Format' / 'Variant' category, I leave only 'Knockout' ticked, I'm shown only those PKOs that have no other attributes, i.e. non-shootout freezeouts. When I leave only 'Re-Entry' ticked, I'm shown only those re-entry events that aren't KO. When I leave both 'Knockout' and 'Re-Entry' ticked, I'm shown all PKOs as well as all re-entries.
So, in order to see re-entry PKOs (there are as many as 14 of them if I'm not mistaken), I have to tick both 'Knockout' and 'Re-Entry'.
Likewise, in order to see events #11 and #31 (shootout PKOs), I have to tick both 'Knockout' and 'Shootout'.
So the most reliable way to find all the PKOs is to type 'KO' in the search box instead of using filters. Those who want to avoid KOs, though, can just untick 'Knockout' to remove them all, instead of typing '-KO' in the search box that of course also works.
Well, I guess this filter behaviour makes sense in practice because most of those who leave just the re-entry option ticked want to find tourneys that have that attribute and no other 'gimmicks'.
When, in the Events -> MicroMillions 13 -> Events tab, I open the Event Filter and, in the 'Format' / 'Variant' category, I leave only 'Knockout' ticked, I'm shown only those PKOs that have no other attributes, i.e. non-shootout freezeouts. When I leave only 'Re-Entry' ticked, I'm shown only those re-entry events that aren't KO. When I leave both 'Knockout' and 'Re-Entry' ticked, I'm shown all PKOs as well as all re-entries.
So, in order to see re-entry PKOs (there are as many as 14 of them if I'm not mistaken), I have to tick both 'Knockout' and 'Re-Entry'.
Likewise, in order to see events #11 and #31 (shootout PKOs), I have to tick both 'Knockout' and 'Shootout'.
So the most reliable way to find all the PKOs is to type 'KO' in the search box instead of using filters. Those who want to avoid KOs, though, can just untick 'Knockout' to remove them all, instead of typing '-KO' in the search box that of course also works.
Well, I guess this filter behaviour makes sense in practice because most of those who leave just the re-entry option ticked want to find tourneys that have that attribute and no other 'gimmicks'.
I'm curious as to why the buy-ins of hyper sats aren't adjusted to match common values of tickets.
In particular, in the case of MM13 ME sats, why are they for $3.25 instead of $3.30 (= $3.23 + 0.07) where the first 2 places would get $22 seats (possibly not allowing unregistration) and the 3rd-4th would get $3.84 cash?
I doubt that 16-man sat regs would care much about being forced to play the ME if they want to play a lot of sats to it because the ME entry would be just a $22 semi-sunk cost and they'd be able to win so much more T$ for the 2nd and further won seats (there's even no need to refund for those seats with T$ - Stars can give generic $22 tickets instead that can be used in any $22 MTT).
So I regard this $3.30-heavy spin sat structure combined with the lack of hypersats (and any sats with a double-digit field size, for that matter) for which those $3.30 tickets can be used (i.e. the sporadic $3.25 buy-in amount for a very popular format of hypersats) as overt sabotage against spin and hypersat regs, which is of course not bad for Stars because it preserves the ecosystem, but I have the right to be bitter about this nevertheless. And this hurts recreationals somewhat too because they have fewer options to use their $3.30 tickets to qualify for the ME and some of them don't have enough free time to play a large-field on-demand, which must be common among those who start start their qualification path with spins, choosing what was supposed to be the least time-consuming of all the paths available.
In particular, in the case of MM13 ME sats, why are they for $3.25 instead of $3.30 (= $3.23 + 0.07) where the first 2 places would get $22 seats (possibly not allowing unregistration) and the 3rd-4th would get $3.84 cash?
I doubt that 16-man sat regs would care much about being forced to play the ME if they want to play a lot of sats to it because the ME entry would be just a $22 semi-sunk cost and they'd be able to win so much more T$ for the 2nd and further won seats (there's even no need to refund for those seats with T$ - Stars can give generic $22 tickets instead that can be used in any $22 MTT).
So I regard this $3.30-heavy spin sat structure combined with the lack of hypersats (and any sats with a double-digit field size, for that matter) for which those $3.30 tickets can be used (i.e. the sporadic $3.25 buy-in amount for a very popular format of hypersats) as overt sabotage against spin and hypersat regs, which is of course not bad for Stars because it preserves the ecosystem, but I have the right to be bitter about this nevertheless. And this hurts recreationals somewhat too because they have fewer options to use their $3.30 tickets to qualify for the ME and some of them don't have enough free time to play a large-field on-demand, which must be common among those who start start their qualification path with spins, choosing what was supposed to be the least time-consuming of all the paths available.
Reason is probably the technology isn't there for this. But you could change the level duration to something really short like 1 minute after the bubble bursts. It'll be epic gamble and people will love it, while still having all the upsides of a well-structured satellite.
I would much rather put something in front of the players immediately and see if it is possible to tweak it within our existing framework. That is why I think Vincent's idea above is great. It isn't a detrimental experience and doesn't require development. All that said, I'm open to more ideas!
I think almost everyone who plays the Sunday Grand would prefer to change it to a Sunday 530 aswell. Simply not a good tournament right now.
Are we going to get our extra 2 minute blind levels for Bigs on sundays like we had before? Make them feel special again, atleast once per week.
Are we going to get our extra 2 minute blind levels for Bigs on sundays like we had before? Make them feel special again, atleast once per week.
In order to determine what is best for the Bigs, it will take some extensive data analysis. We'll have to look at overall tournament length, participation over time, time slots, buy-ins, and much more. It is no small task to determine what to do with this product. I appreciate all the suggestions that have been made, but the Bigs are not going to be changing before WCOOP.
This was a bug and is in the process of being fixed.
Regular speed: 12 minute levels when four tables remain and 15 minutes when two tables remain
Turbo speed: 8 minute levels when two tables remain
Hyper-turbo speed: 5 minute levels when two tables remain
Later this week. Back to the grind!
Shootouts, even total KO ones, don't really work well as scheduled MTTs, especially deepstacked.
In MicroMillions-31 (3-max TKO shootout), there are 9151 entrants, so as many as 3971 got a bye and had to wait for 45 minutes for the next round, the rest (5180) had to play the 1st round HU. One of my 2nd round opponents was late for the round and autofolded for 3 or so minutes, then briefly came back, disappeared for 2 minutes again (likely had a real-life commitment) and only then became active.
And the thing is that the total KO structure doesn't change much in 3-max shootouts in terms of strategy - it only slightly loosens the game up even if the table is full (with 3 players).
This is in contrast to Zoom - I expect total KO Zoom tourneys to play a lot looser than normal Zoom ones because, when you knock a player out, you're immediately dealt into hands with other players and can gobble up even more bounties due to your larger stack, and this is a big incentive for trying to double up early. In a shootout, if you finish a round early, this gives you no advantage - you have to wait for the next round.
So Zoom is a much better format for total KOs than shootout.
In MicroMillions-31 (3-max TKO shootout), there are 9151 entrants, so as many as 3971 got a bye and had to wait for 45 minutes for the next round, the rest (5180) had to play the 1st round HU. One of my 2nd round opponents was late for the round and autofolded for 3 or so minutes, then briefly came back, disappeared for 2 minutes again (likely had a real-life commitment) and only then became active.
And the thing is that the total KO structure doesn't change much in 3-max shootouts in terms of strategy - it only slightly loosens the game up even if the table is full (with 3 players).
This is in contrast to Zoom - I expect total KO Zoom tourneys to play a lot looser than normal Zoom ones because, when you knock a player out, you're immediately dealt into hands with other players and can gobble up even more bounties due to your larger stack, and this is a big incentive for trying to double up early. In a shootout, if you finish a round early, this gives you no advantage - you have to wait for the next round.
So Zoom is a much better format for total KOs than shootout.
Minutes between levels arent all that matters. The structures have been allright I think, considering these tournies are micros with massive fields. Actually a little bit better than I expected. Gets a bit tight between late-reg ends and a little into the money, but overall allright.
Structures for limit tournies was an especially pleasant surprise if you ask me!
Structures for limit tournies was an especially pleasant surprise if you ask me!
I wouldnt mind, but it needs to be promoted. Return of the Sunday 500! 500k gtd(200/250k after), special colour, lots of sats. (1x re-entry maybe?)
If they just changed it to 500$ unannounced I bet you we would still be playing with the same playerspool. Since nobody took notice and the field/first still sucks at the start and no way its gonna grow again organically from there. In most peoples mind it will still be a tournament you should be skipping. Might even decrease since the fish who are still playing it see an even lower first.
If they just changed it to 500$ unannounced I bet you we would still be playing with the same playerspool. Since nobody took notice and the field/first still sucks at the start and no way its gonna grow again organically from there. In most peoples mind it will still be a tournament you should be skipping. Might even decrease since the fish who are still playing it see an even lower first.
And I think the Sunday overall is quite boring. I often only have like 2 tables on Stars and still tons on other sites. 215$ 2nd and 160$ 6max were nice tourneys at the end to keep you playing. After 10 CET its basicly a turbo and a hyper to play. I would join the 55s if there was something with it to play and I don't end up 1 tabbling those things for hours.
It's no rocketscience. We are professionals, but still enthusiasts, the same things still excite us as the recreationals do. Just put up decent tourneys with a good structure/name/color/gtd and people will come. An 300$ PKO 2nd chance @ 22h30 would still draw huge numbers f.e.
Thats why I also don't get you run more small MTT promotions. I get MTT isn't your main focus anymore and not much will happen pbb esp not before WCOOP. But for example the mountain series you ran. Its only 10 extra MTT over the weekend. It gets all people excited, people to deposit, everything else is bigger too, its generates huge extra rake. And it doesnt take that much effort?. I dont see the downsides of it.
Would be nice too if you ran more of those things. Mountain Series is the last thing i can remember and how long was that ago. Otherwise it's only a 5m SM/10m SM and stuff.
It's no rocketscience. We are professionals, but still enthusiasts, the same things still excite us as the recreationals do. Just put up decent tourneys with a good structure/name/color/gtd and people will come. An 300$ PKO 2nd chance @ 22h30 would still draw huge numbers f.e.
Thats why I also don't get you run more small MTT promotions. I get MTT isn't your main focus anymore and not much will happen pbb esp not before WCOOP. But for example the mountain series you ran. Its only 10 extra MTT over the weekend. It gets all people excited, people to deposit, everything else is bigger too, its generates huge extra rake. And it doesnt take that much effort?. I dont see the downsides of it.
Would be nice too if you ran more of those things. Mountain Series is the last thing i can remember and how long was that ago. Otherwise it's only a 5m SM/10m SM and stuff.
What does your ideal Sunday look like? What else would you change? Although I know change doesn't come as quick as you like, providing the feedback gives us context when it does come time to dig into the schedule and make these changes. We're working hard on WCOOP so that we can attempt to get ahead of the curve a bit and back to focusing on the schedule.
Because of the simple fact that the only reason the schedule is so over saturated with pkos is that Stars gets to rake and re re re rake money much more effectively if instead of 15% of the field roughly 40% of the field get money back, there a less money in final tables there a less importance in deep runs the correct strat in them is to gamble like crazy. They don't make good championship tourneys. They are good on the side but the whole premise just doesn't suit a big series imo.
Luke, thanks for changing the $3.25 shootout sats to $3.30 - I may play them (or the $0.65 spins again) closer to Sunday depending on the mood
I can't have access to Winamax currently, so I haven't had a chance to become a fan of Hit And Run sats, just read about them in the news and found that idea interesting. Forget about it.
Now let me complain about my biggest current pet peeve (again, this is an SNG matter).
Hand-for-hand play slows down $1 36-man super-KOs (where the blinds grow by 1.5-2 times every 2 minutes). This makes me want to move up to $3 24-man SKOs (where the bubble happens at the FT), and I pity those who can't do so. Either make the FT 7-max in the 36-mans or reduce their money zone from 6 to 5 players (the 6th place pays <1 BI as of now). I'm worrying about the negative user experience that the bubble with 7 players at 2 tables might be giving.
I can't have access to Winamax currently, so I haven't had a chance to become a fan of Hit And Run sats, just read about them in the news and found that idea interesting. Forget about it.
Now let me complain about my biggest current pet peeve (again, this is an SNG matter).
Hand-for-hand play slows down $1 36-man super-KOs (where the blinds grow by 1.5-2 times every 2 minutes). This makes me want to move up to $3 24-man SKOs (where the bubble happens at the FT), and I pity those who can't do so. Either make the FT 7-max in the 36-mans or reduce their money zone from 6 to 5 players (the 6th place pays <1 BI as of now). I'm worrying about the negative user experience that the bubble with 7 players at 2 tables might be giving.
Sunday 500 has such a great reputation you don't really need to change much as it is a proven winning formula, like the warmup and million. Maybe advertise it as a rakefree tournament first week back 'The Return of The Sunday 500' and watch it get over 1k runners
I like the Bigger/Hotter names, and I suspect you might be right that bringing the names back would, on its own, have an impact. However, I feel it would be disingenuous and would shortly remove the value from the special names. In short, I want there to be actually be something bigger or hotter about them.
The aim is to get good structure, high field size, high prizepool tournaments. Stop doing things that are hindering this and start doing things that may facilitate it.
Also do not forget to sneakily increase rake like you did in Super KOs. It will make them bigger/hotter for sure!
I appreciate you posting in hereLuke, but have any suggestions been implemented? Seems you just ask more questions and that's the end of it.
Like the bigger hotter thing. Do you really need to collate all the data to make that change? You say is disingenuous to change the name without adding value. So just add the value. Personally the hots plays out fine but adding couple mins to bigs would be great. Even marketing them as special would increase participation, remember the Sunday edition mtts? They were huge just because of a label.
Like the bigger hotter thing. Do you really need to collate all the data to make that change? You say is disingenuous to change the name without adding value. So just add the value. Personally the hots plays out fine but adding couple mins to bigs would be great. Even marketing them as special would increase participation, remember the Sunday edition mtts? They were huge just because of a label.
wasnt bigger / hotter bigger gtd and slightly longer blind levels hence the diff name?
How fast a suggestion is decided upon depends on many factors, such as the technical ease of implementation and the number of recreationals who'd be ready to play the proposed tournament(s). Vincent's (Re8uZ's) suggestion of PKO satellites has been tested surprisingly soon
I don't know what are you talking about... You changed mm events from 10 min to 8 and saying they are not 8 min. "they change to 10 minutes once late registration closes" - mark them as bubble rush then or turbo. Why you always trying to reduce the length? If people want to play a fast mtt - they will register some turbo or hyper mtts! A lot of people want to play mtts with a good structure! But I forgot that amaya does not care about poker...
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