If HS players are so flippant that they can't be assed to play Saturday why waste space with the Weekender at all?

Honestly, you have a great argument for simply making the Weekender itself $82. Any of the HS guys playing Saturday will fire it anyway + open it up to a whole different market.

Hi everybody - just heard about this thread/subfolder from a post '3+1=4' made in NVG ...


Have only been playing tourneys on a regular basis for about a year now, so haven't had too much of a chance to observe the type of stuff that PS likes to schedule and why, and stuff like that. Guess a year's given me the chance to notice some things about the pool and the schedule though, like the a bunch of us seem to be fond of $1 tourneys ... might be a little of a 'Neymar/Ronadlo effect' here as well?


Also it seems like a lot of us maybe might like to play turbos and knockouts (and turbo knockouts, plain vanilla rather than rebuys) at night? Although in the Americas, guess there's not too many of those in the $1 category? Actually, it looks like there might not be any, is that right?






Guess if we're only offered ones in the $3.30 range, then some of us some of the time will play those, not sure if that's maybe why there's none that are $1.10? Have given some of the turbo and knockout SNG's a try, but the stacks are only 1,500, and the regular speed ones have 15 minute levels ... and sometimes some of them don't fill and stuff.


Not sure how similar what seems like fun to me is to what others might find fun, or how it matches up with PS' interests, but thanks PS Luke for inviting us to post our thoughts

Although there's LOTS of turbos below $1, so that's nice Although there's not so many regular speed tourneys, so that's kind of the opposite of what's there in the $1-$2 range at night in the Americas ...

Well anyways, really looking forward to seeing what the new microstakes schedule'll look like!


PS. Have heard a lot of people who play higher stakes mention that they wished the Sunday Million started an hour or two earlier ... but that's not something I ever play personally

Anyways ...

loving your work doggz (as usual). change the weekender to an $82. i feel like a 1k monthly on sundays would be a pretty boss replacement for the HS guys

Worth asking: now that FTP is confirmed getting merged into Stars, what FTP tournament would we love to see live on? Has FTP really done anything worth remembering since reviving in 2013?

HI, i have suggestion about 530 weekender

i think it will be cool if u make it like EPT main

-30k starting stack,
-2 first starting days (EPT main event blind structure)

-day 1A Friday/1B Saturday starting around 17h-19h CET playing twelve 20 min lvl (with late reg 8lvl)

-day #2 Sunday starting time 14h-16h CET 30 min lvl (people who will get to day 2 will play probaly kickoff and warmup too)

run a bunch of sat every day like u run it for that 11$ phase mtt (put the sats in special, and promote this MTT)

reasons =>

Spoiler:

it will be very fun deep MTT to play for all recreational and all other players who can''t afford/dont have time to play ept main and I think will be huge success

dogz, I agree your fairly right but I didn't want to remove a $530 for my own selfish desires.

^^ above isn't terrible except people don't play Friday's really either.
Weekender try as $82

Or put 3 Day 1s. One with Tuesday, one with Thrill and the Saturday one.

Doing either of those would make Weekender much improvement.


It still really pains me how little you communicate with us and when you do post it's just never good. How can Bryan and Baard respond so often but you struggle do it weekly? Again you have most reason to communicate with us too I would think. Just sucks to be writing all this and it's 2nd time for u to address Mini rebuy and warm up and it's a complete swear whether you will ignore it or not. We tell you to get an assistant and you say we are the ones assisting you. I mean plz

The Weekender clearly just isn't working as a $530. I agree that it would be much better as an 82 or 109. Personally I think 109 is a good price point as it is still a "high" buy in tournament and would fit perfectly along with the big 109 and bounty builder 109 as a morning 109 that is needed on Saturdays.
82 also would work and maybe open it up to more players since steps could be used.
Please consider this; the weekend needs to change.

Also, the 11$ phase should change to a $22 phase. $22 is not too much for people to fire multiple times in hopes of reaching a day two and if increasing the buy in to $22 gets the first place prize over $20k this could be a selling point. Maybe add 20k gtd for 1st to the title of the phase in order to induce people; I think this would work.

Lowering the buy in of The Weekender not only opens up the tournament to more players, it also makes the tournament more late-reg friendly; which, given its start time, is important.

I think a major goal for everyone here is to have more tournaments that are worth getting up to play. That's really the same no matter if your a microstakes rec or a HS baller.

Stars just coasted on a large playerpool for way to long and let their offerings get stale and boring. Time to freshen up.

what do you think about the concept of a tournament where the winners gets upgraded a VIP step?
so on 1st place you get from silver to gold for example and all the coins you would earn in such a project?

Changing the weekender to 109/82 would definitely breathe life into it, cant see it not being very popular if you don't start it too early.

The 530 could stay as some sort of phase/multiple day 1. Call it something different and run the two phase 1's on a Tuesday and Thursday when more HS players are on and keep the target on Sunday.

I think the opposite is true--that more players will re-enter due to the scope of the tournament. If this was the normal Sunday Million, I think players would be more cautious, but this isn't a normal Sunday Million. It is 10 Sunday Millions in one!

Thanks for the feedback. I don't know when the new schedule will be ready. I'm actively working on it and continually receiving outside feedback. I hope it will be worth the wait.

I'm not sure that this would have the desired effect. Players may be scared off by a long advertised tournament length initially, but had they played, would've enjoyed the excitement of going deep in the tournament. They also may not make the connection that 85% of the time their experience will be a few hours long at the most.

I think 10% is already pushing it. It is likely that I change the start time of the Phase 2 on Sundays to be a bit later. This will allow for another Phase 1 and will encourage players to play Phase 1s since the Phase 2 will start in the middle of peak time on Sunday. I may implement a new Phase before the rest of the new schedule since this tournament is struggling a bit.

Settings -> Lobby -> Lobby Display -> Enable Alternative Tournament List Layout

I've said before, but I'm open to the idea of occasional tournaments like this during promotional and live event lulls. It is something for the future though, not now.

I'm not going to have more than one Phase buy-in per week. It would make the lobby a mess IMO.

This is the question--whether or not to increase the buy-in of the one we have, not whether or not we're going to add more Phase tournaments.

I see Phase as a niche product for the main schedule and as an important component to a series. I don't think we need to have a $250K guarantee on a weekly Phase to consider it a valuable product.

Thanks, I will add this to our development wish list, though I cannot promise it will be prioritized in the near future.

Thanks for the feedback. I don't consider it an issue if only 100 players play Phase 1 on Monday. There is no reason to think that participation on a Monday would equal that of a Sunday. Some people simply can't plan that far ahead of time. Those five days add a few thousand players to the total field each week, though.

Thanks.

Fun fact: Bounty Builders is still growing.

I actually think re-entry is a valuable tool at times of low liquidity. For instance, if you have two $100 freezeouts, one at 14:00 and one at 00:00 ET, the 14:00 one has a much higher amount of unique players available to play and will garner a respectable prize pool. The 00:00 on the other hand, may only have 100 potential unique players, which would results in a small guarantee. If you made the 00:00 tournament re-entry, you now have 100 unique players who can contribute 200 entries. This tournament could have a higher guarantee and has a better chance of attracting new players.

It is a matter of theory vs. practice, though.

Yep, the plan is to move Phase 2 to 14:25 which will allow for an additional Phase 1.

And what is your statement based on? The above statement is contrary to the intuition of everyone on our team and the overall trend of $215 buy-ins. I'm genuinely curious what assumptions you've made to reach this conclusion.

Phase tournaments all need to have the same buy-in + rake. This would result in hypers being raked at 10%, which is why I haven't deployed any.

There is no mini Sunday Rebuy because I'm not sure what I'm doing with the Sunday Rebuy in the new schedule. There is no mini Sunday Warm-Up because it is planned to become the Double Deuce. There is no mini Weekender because the buy-in of the tournament is likely to be reduced in the new schedule.

I know this is hard to swallow, but there's valid reasons that I do not add tournaments to the schedule at regular intervals. I am trying to plan for the future and provide the best experience possible.

Lastly, please keep vitriol out of this thread. All it will do is derail the conversation and make it less likely I respond to your posts.

Well, as a percentage, of course. On average, regular players will have a higher tolerance for risk. In this one off instance, the regular players will be massively outnumbered.

This is the magic question. It is difficult to estimate because I'm currently in the planning stages. I need to plan the majors, red brands, non-red guarantees, non-NLHE, satellites, Time tournaments, Phase, and so on.

Imagine having three Lego sets, pouring them onto the floor, and then having to put them together with no instructions. That's how it feels!

Once the planning stage is completed, I will have a much better idea of when it will be released.

It is increasingly likely that I just incorporate changes into the new schedule. I apologize because this contradicts what I said earlier, but it is in everyone's best interest if my sole focus is on planning the new schedule.

They were never random! They happen during restart nights because we need to have all tournaments finished by the time maintenance is to begin.

Thanks for chiming in! Micro-stakes players will likely benefit the most from the new schedule.

This is an innovative idea. I'm not sure how it would pan out in practice but I'll give it some thought.

Interesting analogy you've drawn there.

The reason Lego isn't as fun as it used to be is because they started churning out themed sets that have to be built to precise instructions using unique set-specific bricks that can ultimately only build one thing, that all feel the same and leave users bored after one try, instead of just providing a lot of generic bricks and letting the builders use their imagination time and time again

It's fine if you don't want to add more MTTs for various reasons. Just give MTT a bit more promotions. Like FR they had last month Galatico Series, They have a KO-week starting sunday. They just raise the gtd of some excisting KO-tournaments add a couple extra and you have a week where every tourney is booming. It won't cannabalize anything on monday fe, simply because twice as many people bothered to open your client that day to play MTT.

If it didn't work out as planned it's gone next week. So risk averse.

Some KO-week, WCOOP Challenge ect would be much appreciated and then you can easily try out some tourneys that youre debating making a daily/weekly tournament.

Honestly I think the weekender would probably do better at a higher buy-in. A lot or regs turned their backs on saturday a long time ago, and they are simply not coming back for a 530. I think making it a 1k/2k will see it perform a lot better (could even keep the gtd for now), and then you could easily run a 109 mini alongside it.

yeah i opted that too, but i think it's beyond saving now. The way it was implented, bad time. unnecessary day 2. first event with low gtd during biggest EPT of year where no-one can play online. I don't think making it a higher BI now isn't gonna make most clear their saturdays.

I would slash BI, making it 162, 215 or 250. There are enough players online on saturday, hence 320 SKO. Just make the tournament affordable for most of the players pool that day imo.

Lol at the serious Lego response

Genuinely looking forward to the dubble doose, that thing will be massive!

Off topic: why will the Stars sn be preferred when the sites merge? I hate my stars one and wanna keep my ftp one but apparently that's a no go. Tilt

Finally a Double Deuce worth playing!

75% kos put me off playing Saturdays tbh, they aren't much fun the gimmick is taken too far and they're a massive rake trap I'm reluctant to register them

Hi,

Any chance to see a few CAP tournaments on PS again ?

That would make sense after PS/FTP merge.

if Stars only takes one thing from FTP it ought to be On Demand MTTs

there are plenty of other options than having cap tourneys. 45 mans/180 mans/ small field mtts.

please come up with fresh idea rather than tried and tested aids.

think the weeekender or another new mtt aking tosaturday night live.. final table all get a 1.1k euro players choice ticket and top 2 get an ept main seat?

SNG multitable aren't MTT's.

At the time of the day i play, there is only large field MTT's.

And i come up with the ideas i want ...

And, browsing your profile, i see you complained a lot about things missing, disapearing or decreasing on the sites. Blame yourself instead of me LOL