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03-14-2017 , 07:56 PM
Ty both. Luke, can we do this every day? More profitable for me.
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03-14-2017 , 08:05 PM
Super fair that some people never disconnected and was able to acummulate a ****load of chips which they are going to receive $$ for.


edit: And the fact that those who got kicked out the earliest (aka Europe) lost the most amount of chips.
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03-14-2017 , 08:08 PM
are the tournaments paused getting cancelled?
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03-14-2017 , 08:10 PM
i think so
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03-14-2017 , 08:11 PM
didnt play one hand on bb16, am with 800 chips dude on my left has 32k lol
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03-14-2017 , 08:11 PM
Why the **** can't you just manually unpause the tournaments and let us play? We don't want chip chop.
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03-14-2017 , 08:20 PM
Registered in some tournaments and like 5 min later was kicked off, to cases like this there will be reimbursement?
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03-14-2017 , 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Luke
The site is currently down for an emergency restart.
Tks for promptly informing us as to what was going on.

Am able to login now and all looks normal.
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03-14-2017 , 08:22 PM
Alright seems like they rolled forward the tournament from the moment it got cancelled, not from the moment the DC's started happening. So the people who got DC'd still are screwed big time.

The people who played on got massive value for just getting all the chips and then do chip chop. I DC'd way before the cancellation of 2 tournaments and just got blinded out and got the lower payout regardless. For instance the Hot $22, I got DC problems when the playercount was around 300. Busted for only like $80 payout, the chip chop only happened for the last 27 remaining players, while the DC's started happening way earlier.
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03-14-2017 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ynach
Super fair that some people never disconnected and was able to acummulate a ****load of chips which they are going to receive $$ for.


edit: And the fact that those who got kicked out the earliest (aka Europe) lost the most amount of chips.
Yes, very poor decisions by Stars there. It seems obvious you should cancel it when the problem appeared... So unfair how they did it
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03-14-2017 , 08:27 PM
Hey everyone,

The emergency restart has concluded and service has returned to normal. When the system came back up around 00:05 GMT, we cancelled all tournaments until 00:20, rolled back a few that had started but not dealt any hands, and then performed a mass roll forward on all remaining tournaments. Upon completion of those actions, we slowly brought games back just as we typically do after a restart.

We apologize for the inconvenience and thank you for your patience.

Cheers,

Luke
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03-14-2017 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Luke
Hey everyone,

The emergency restart has concluded and service has returned to normal. When the system came back up around 00:05 GMT, we cancelled all tournaments until 00:20, rolled back a few that had started but not dealt any hands, and then performed a mass roll forward on all remaining tournaments. Upon completion of those actions, we slowly brought games back just as we typically do after a restart.

We apologize for the inconvenience and thank you for your patience.

Cheers,

Luke
Why you didnt make the ICM calculations when the problem appeared, not when you rebooted?
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03-14-2017 , 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Luke
Hey everyone,

The emergency restart has concluded and service has returned to normal. When the system came back up around 00:05 GMT, we cancelled all tournaments until 00:20, rolled back a few that had started but not dealt any hands, and then performed a mass roll forward on all remaining tournaments. Upon completion of those actions, we slowly brought games back just as we typically do after a restart.

We apologize for the inconvenience and thank you for your patience.

Cheers,

Luke

Pokerstars doesn't think it's a problem that some people have been disconnected for hours, lost their stacks and will receive barely any compensation whereas people who have been reaping chips off those disconnected players now get a chip-chop?
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03-14-2017 , 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Jorizz
Pokerstars doesn't think it's a problem that some people have been disconnected for hours, lost their stacks and will receive barely any compensation whereas people who have been reaping chips off those disconnected players now get a chip-chop?
Would like to know the explenation to this as well.
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03-14-2017 , 08:35 PM
Yep, this is silly and far from fair. This must be adressed.
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03-14-2017 , 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Luke
You can leave the PC. All tournaments that were running before the restart will be rolled forward using the applicable formula.



The site is currently down for an emergency restart.


This is mess up bro!


Let start with mi ISSUE, and im sure.. a lot more..

I was discconect from server.. let said.. 2 hours ago... in the exact moment the bubble of the BIG55 was in play.

I got 70K (for eleven place at the time.. in blinds 500/1k)

I was disconnect and i cant return.. then i read ur twitter.. and read this.. and a lot more info from friends that got the same problem...


Still.. some people dont go offline.. they chip up effortless.


So... now i enter pokerstars after the restart..

And i see this:


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PokerStars Tournament #1849882669, No Limit Hold'em
Buy-In: $50.00/$5.00 USD
1276 players
Total Prize Pool: $63800.00 USD
Tournament started 2017/03/14 16:00:00 ART [2017/03/14 15:00:00 ET]


Dear SimianValue,

Tournament #1849882669 has been cancelled due to technical reasons.

When a tournament is cancelled, and players have already reached the money, we refund each player their tournament fee, and then divide up the prize pool based on the following formula:

- each player receives the minimum prize not yet awarded at the time of cancellation
- the remainder of the award pool distributed proportionally according to the chip count

At the time of cancellation there were 54 players remaining, and your chip count was 3,830.00. Total chips in play were 6,380,000.00. The remaining prize pool was USD 43,249.96 and the minimum prize was USD 202.07.

Prize pool to be divided equally: USD 202.07 * 54 = USD 10,911.78
Prize pool to be divided based on chip count: USD 43,249.96 - USD 10,911.78 = USD 32,338.18

Your share in money equally divided: USD 202.07
Your share based on your chip count: USD 32,338.18 * (3,830.00 / 6,380,000.00) = USD 19.41
Your entry fee refunded: USD 5.00

Total money refunded to your Stars Account: USD 226.48

We apologize for the inconvenience.



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Now ... you make the FORMULA... when i GOT 3K CHIPS!!! 2 hours after the disconnection...


And i go to my pokertracker.. and review some history...

The guy that collect 2k from the tourney..
Got 12k at the moments of discconect ... (12blinds)

So.. you think the formula is right?


I got NetworkStatusReport from the moment i go offline.. i got the track history complete in my database.. i got image from the discconect and the payouts..


THE FORMULA WAS MADE 5 MINUTES AGO:

SO.. ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WAS AFFECTED FOR THE DISCCONECTION, GOT PUNISH... AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WHERE NOT AFFECTED:.. RECIBE THE MONEY!...


SERIOUSLY?


i wait for answers...
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03-14-2017 , 08:43 PM
They cant be serious pulling this bull. Come answer this now Pokie..
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03-14-2017 , 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Luke

rolled back a few that had started but not dealt any hands

Luke
how convenient... cancelled the 320 late super tuesday because started with 28!!!! PLAYERS and now we dont wanna overlay the 65k to them
...................
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03-14-2017 , 08:47 PM
When was the last time there were no issues after a new update?
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03-14-2017 , 08:52 PM
"Thank you for contacting us.

We have recently experienced some technical problems. These have now been fixed and you are once again able to login to your account and play as normal. We sincerely apologise for any inconvenience caused.

We will be considering refunds for all materially affected players. "Materially affected" means you missed a considerable number of hands and lost a significant portion of your chip stack due to blinds and antes. By sending this email you have already ensured any affected games will be subject to a thorough review, but if there is any further information you feel is pertinent to your specific case, please feel free to let us know.

We appreciate your patience and understanding.

Regards,

Stars Support"
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03-14-2017 , 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by FlushYouAcehole
how convenient... cancelled the 320 late super tuesday because started with 28!!!! PLAYERS and now we dont wanna overlay the 65k to them
...................
I joined a $22 Hyper which was still running and accepting registrations for 5 more minutes, which they decided to shut off because it had massive overlay.
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03-14-2017 , 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SimianValue
This is mess up bro!


Let start with mi ISSUE, and im sure.. a lot more..

I was discconect from server.. let said.. 2 hours ago... in the exact moment the bubble of the BIG55 was in play.

I got 70K (for eleven place at the time.. in blinds 500/1k)

I was disconnect and i cant return.. then i read ur twitter.. and read this.. and a lot more info from friends that got the same problem...


Still.. some people dont go offline.. they chip up effortless.


So... now i enter pokerstars after the restart..

And i see this:


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PokerStars Tournament #1849882669, No Limit Hold'em
Buy-In: $50.00/$5.00 USD
1276 players
Total Prize Pool: $63800.00 USD
Tournament started 2017/03/14 16:00:00 ART [2017/03/14 15:00:00 ET]


Dear SimianValue,

Tournament #1849882669 has been cancelled due to technical reasons.

When a tournament is cancelled, and players have already reached the money, we refund each player their tournament fee, and then divide up the prize pool based on the following formula:

- each player receives the minimum prize not yet awarded at the time of cancellation
- the remainder of the award pool distributed proportionally according to the chip count

At the time of cancellation there were 54 players remaining, and your chip count was 3,830.00. Total chips in play were 6,380,000.00. The remaining prize pool was USD 43,249.96 and the minimum prize was USD 202.07.

Prize pool to be divided equally: USD 202.07 * 54 = USD 10,911.78
Prize pool to be divided based on chip count: USD 43,249.96 - USD 10,911.78 = USD 32,338.18

Your share in money equally divided: USD 202.07
Your share based on your chip count: USD 32,338.18 * (3,830.00 / 6,380,000.00) = USD 19.41
Your entry fee refunded: USD 5.00

Total money refunded to your Stars Account: USD 226.48

We apologize for the inconvenience.



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Now ... you make the FORMULA... when i GOT 3K CHIPS!!! 2 hours after the disconnection...


And i go to my pokertracker.. and review some history...

The guy that collect 2k from the tourney..
Got 12k at the moments of discconect ... (12blinds)

So.. you think the formula is right?


I got NetworkStatusReport from the moment i go offline.. i got the track history complete in my database.. i got image from the discconect and the payouts..


THE FORMULA WAS MADE 5 MINUTES AGO:

SO.. ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WAS AFFECTED FOR THE DISCCONECTION, GOT PUNISH... AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WHERE NOT AFFECTED:.. RECIBE THE MONEY!...


SERIOUSLY?


i wait for answers...
This example was brutal. I don't think it should be ignored.
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03-14-2017 , 08:54 PM
good to know, lets write emails, guys...
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03-14-2017 , 08:58 PM
Wow...after reading 'simianvalue's' post, I think some clarification is needed in regards to just how Pokerstars decides on the timing of using formulas such as the 'roll-forward / roll-back' in situations like the one that just occured.

@simianvalue - I would also email pokerstars support with the info you have and ask for answers from them...
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03-14-2017 , 08:59 PM
so stars.fr receive overlay money and we players of .com receive a big **** ?

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