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08-02-2016 , 05:34 PM
Why is the Late Reg of the FL Omania High Roller only 3h (opposed to 3:45h in PL/NL)?

NL/PL games registration ends with ~8bb while FL ends with ~17bb (big blinds, not big bets). In Limit a shorter stack still gives you more options, plus the late reg shortstacking play is not as disruptive as in the PL/NL variants.
So the Late Reg period should rather be longer but definitely not shorter than in PL/NL games. This tournament misses out on late-/re-entries big time, which unfortunately affects the prize pool quite significantly.

Please fix.

Last edited by GTXR1; 08-02-2016 at 05:50 PM.
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08-02-2016 , 07:41 PM
- Please add more detail to the satellites pane. Make it like the main tournaments table. I hate having to click through them all to figure out which one is a hyper with 1 seat versus two seats, etc.
- A few non-hyper options would be great too.
- I'd give the 2x shootouts a try if they had even a little bit of play or were turbo instead of hyper. Right now they are pure gamble.
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08-02-2016 , 07:45 PM
Pretty much +1 for everything broken_jia said. I used to play lots of non-hyper NLO8 / PLO8 events, but after they were destroyed by making them 6-max I haven't played them virtually at all.

And there's certainly more room for hyper O8 tournaments. Especially during (European) prime time. They last very short time in comparison to other tournaments and there could be like 2-3 of them starting every hour without risk of cannibalisation (it prob would make them in average even bigger).
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08-02-2016 , 10:45 PM
bring back some fullring turbo psko tourneys ( i recall the one which started 15min after b22 (the old b22) )
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08-03-2016 , 05:47 AM
I don't really understand the FL08's all being 6-max. This isn't at all a dead game. Most large card rooms have cash tables of it running, and it is common inclusion on live poker circuit, with even schedules that are mostly NLHE having a single FL08 event. It is most often played 9 handed, sometimes 8-max. It is an action game with a lot of multi-way pots. The dynamic changes a lot with it being 6-max. Some 6-max I can see, I guess, but all? Not a fan of this. Would much rather see these be 9 handed, or 8-handed like the are in HORSE.
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08-03-2016 , 06:20 AM
Playing for less than an hour and I've already had 2 software freezes, the first of which cost me a triple up and bounty in the $11 BB.

Sort this fkn **** out Luke.
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08-03-2016 , 06:45 AM
as I love bashing Luke for things that he should do and doesn't this issue is really for Keith.
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08-03-2016 , 06:53 AM
Fair point!

Apologies, Luke!
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08-03-2016 , 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by LOLCh1pPorn
+ a lot for a low-midstakes series, with the lower bi's for MM this year you really need to address the 11-55$ stakes with a nice series, like rounder will say this is just an easy layup

surely anyone on the stars payroll knows it will do well? shouldn't be hard to give it a cool name and brand it quickly either, you could even do it late 2016 already (but you won't)

There's no plans to change the Bigs, Hots, Bounty Builders, or Omania schedule in the near future. I'll continue to analyse the peak time offering and adjust as needed, but the addition of new tournaments requires a slow and steady approach.


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Originally Posted by PokerStars Luke
I like the idea of a mid-stakes series! I'll pass on the feedback to the relevant people.
hi,
first, no midstakes, not only..at least, LOWSTAKES and MIDSTAKES, the best would be if more lowstakes oriented. thanks.
second, so as i see, there were no such plans in your mind before as you have to pass the feedback to the relevant people. why is that. there were never such a series i just can not understand why, the micromillions mainevent just shows pretty well there is a huge interest for this buyin range too. just look at the old prebf MFTOPS secundele and copy the idea of it and we will be fine and you will be facing with a nice pay rise too

btw thanks for the answers Luke

make it happen to collect some huge props
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08-03-2016 , 09:27 AM
+1 low-mid series
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08-03-2016 , 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by broken_jia
One more thing, Luke.

There was some discussion in the WCOOP thread about why all NLO8 and PLO8 MTTs were 6-max on Bryan's first drafted schedule. Some of the PLO players chimed in about 9-max PLO being boring, but had generalised their opinion to that PLO8 and NLO8 would be the same, despite not playing much of the game.

Bryan ran some numbers from the last few years and concluded that PLO8 events feel in participation once it was changed from 9-max to 6-max. He says:
"I think that it's pretty clear that we need to look at changing the PL Omaha Hi/Lo Event to 9-Max, or perhaps to 8-Max"

Do you think the above makes you want to re-consider making all the PLO8 and NLO8 events 6-max? I think from a rake perspective you guys probably make more money due to more re-entries, but your predecessor made it sound pretty clear that 8-max/9-max is the more popular format.

You have recently added a couple 8-max and 9-max events, but this isn't enough. Can we expect to see some 6-max events (hypers and Omanias can be left at 6-max) being converted to 8-max so that the schedule isn't so 6-max heavy?
Posting in support of adding more 9/8max PL/NL O8 MTTs and/or changing some of the 6max schedule to 9/8max.
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08-03-2016 , 10:28 AM
Well pokernews hinted at MiniWCOOP which would feature buyins of... $1-$11. If that's true then I'm speechless.
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08-03-2016 , 10:34 AM
oh god, they dont really get it

so i guess thats why $8-$11 events were missed from this years MM schedule. but then why we need another crappy $1-$5 events just a few months after.
make it $8 to $16.50 for miniwcoop to make at least some sense. seriously, Luke, you dont make much sense with your decisions at all

whatever,
ill just give up from now
i guess

Last edited by playr; 08-03-2016 at 10:40 AM.
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08-03-2016 , 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by mashxx
Well pokernews hinted at MiniWCOOP which would feature buyins of... $1-$11. If that's true then I'm speechless.
It's confirmed in the wcoop thread.
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08-03-2016 , 10:45 AM
i still want to believe in Amaya but even the X-files are more rational/reasonable
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08-03-2016 , 10:46 AM
Is anyone else having constant software issues?
Wth
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08-03-2016 , 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by playr
oh god, they dont really get it

so i guess thats why $8-$11 events were missed from this years MM schedule. but then why we need another crappy $1-$5 events just a few months after.
make it $8 to $16.50 for miniwcoop to make at least some sense. seriously, Luke, you dont make much sense with your decisions at all

whatever,
ill just give up from now
i guess
bro, calm down a bit. He's listened to our idea & passed it on. Time will tell, hopefully they recognise the gap. I did a big post on it and people added to it, so it's clear what we are looking for & we can only wait and see whether it'll be implemented. Personally, i'm hopeful.

And personally, miniWCOOP is better than no miniWCOOP.
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08-03-2016 , 11:25 AM
ok Lee Jones
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08-03-2016 , 11:41 AM
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ok Lee Jones
I +1 the idea of answering this to everybody who says something that could portray him as a shill by a lot of people.
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08-03-2016 , 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by weswag
Is anyone else having constant software issues?
Wth
As mentioned above, 2 freezes within an hour this morning so I stopped regging.
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08-03-2016 , 12:28 PM
Would be best to put $5 or $11 90man pkos at the top of the main tournament lobby for most of the day in place of $30 180 pkos. They start so rarely that they are wasting advertising space at the top of the main lobby where most players go to choose a game. The $30 180 can be put in during peak time on days they will start.

When it was obvious that spin and goes had killed off $15 180s during off peak they were replaced each day by $15 45s in the main lobby at 01:00 gmt to 13:00 and the numbers of those starting did increase. Can tell by how $15 45s start slower after they get replaced at 13:00 by $15 180s in the main lobby. For a lot of the night it would actually be much better to have $7 45s instead as traffic gets so low.

I’d say during the lowest traffic time of the day, about 03:30 to 08:00 GMT $5 90’s and $7 45s should be used in the $30 180 and $15 180 slots and the rest of the time those 2 mttsngs are not in the main lobby (will still be there during peak time) put in $11 90s and $15 45s.

It seems unlikely on-demands will be used to revive mttsngs so may as well optimise the lobby. Hope the 5min zoom timebombs with 10% rake aren’t the future.
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08-03-2016 , 08:31 PM
Luke, please fix the payouts in the Bounty Builders. Make it 10% places paid instead of 12% and players will receive much more money. We have 0.87x min cash in the Bounty Builders which is just nothing (that's why I don't like to play Bounty Builders). Even if you have 2 knockouts + min cash it's still something like 1.3x min cash... If you cut those 2% we will have a min cash something around 1.45x which is much better for all players. It's PKO, no need to pay to 12% of the field.
You could also add more money for the first place, but at least make the min cash higher please.
I think if you change the min cash, these MTTs will attract more players (I know that the Bounty Builders has already a lot of payers, but there is much more people, who don't play them just because of the min cash).
This is just my opinion, but please think about this.
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08-04-2016 , 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by mashxx
Well pokernews hinted at MiniWCOOP which would feature buyins of... $1-$11. If that's true then I'm speechless.
In WCOOP feedback thread, goattekkel posted that a mini version of the $102k would be nice

PSBryan responds there will be one, and the buyin will be $11....

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08-04-2016 , 07:31 AM
So the mini wcoop SHR is a 11$ ? lol
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