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07-18-2016 , 12:21 PM
i am really looking forward to see the 11$ version of that 5 min tourney
let me guess 10$ and only 1$ rake for 5 min of push or fold
that is the thing we all have been waiting for !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i mean of course this **** is funny to play when you ignore the high rake
i think 1-2% rake would be fair for such an all-in fest

but you have to shoot yourself in the leg

also i saw a sattelite to a mm event that was 0,02$+0,03$ rake and ofcourse it was a rebuy tournament

i cant even find the right words to describe what i think of that
and if i could i am sure that they wouldnt be in appropriate language
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07-18-2016 , 12:23 PM
Really nice job with Omania changes Luke. It seems like they're smashing the guarantees pretty well and a lot of new players are being brought to the game.

A couple thoughts:

- I usually register for a 6-7 hour block starting at 11et and during that time there is only one PLO hi Omania. I imagine there would be no trouble adding in a $27 at some point during the peak time that would perform well.

- The KOManias seem to be doing great. Is there any thought of adding one or two to the weekday schedule? One each of plo/plo8/nlo8 would be perfect.

Thanks!!
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07-18-2016 , 04:49 PM


micromillions event everybody. because you know, keeping the fact that mixed game payouts are totally ****ed secret from a good 10k-15k people is totally a good idea.

even on a event this big we have no payjump for making the 8 handed FT
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07-18-2016 , 07:48 PM
I have played some bigs and hots on stars at the low stakes. I have noticed its way tougher now compared to before.


Can someone post the structure for a hot or big before these changes? I use to play that $11 hot, $16.50 hot and that $1.10 rebuy where it was 30k guarantee plus. For some reason, i liked the way the structure was, seemed to be really smooth as they are turbos and 5 minute levels.


Does anyone else feel this as well? Now the only hot there is for the low stakes is the hot 11 and the hot 22. These for some reason play a lot differently than the hot 11 and hot 16.50. Overall, are these hots and bigs lasting longer before the changes? For some reason, i feel like these hots and bigs are a lot slower as they have 35/70 as level etc. Is there anyone here that actually prefers this as before? I recalled it was 10/20, 15/30, 25/50, 50/100, 75/150, 100/200 and pretty much went fast. I mean thats what a turbo should be right? Who here prefers the old structure? I mean was there even any complaints at the time before these changes were made for the hots and bigs? Hots and bigs were very nice tournaments but the hots and that 1.10 30k rebuy was very nice to play.
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07-18-2016 , 07:51 PM
Also what tournaments are most of you mtt grinders even playing now? I look at the structures for the low to mid stakes... basically the only things that are good to play are the hots and bigs. But besides that, they is basically nothing else besides those bounty builders etc. I mean... does anyone here actually like bounty builders? I took a look at these and these seem to take a very long time to play. I mean, why can't you put a bunch of rebuys and turbos and just regular structure tournaments before these changes? I mean, there was a daily $11 with a 10k guarantee. Also another 16.50 turbo with 20k guarantee that goes later on.


How does anyone even get 10 tables going on at once at low-mid stakes nowadays?
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07-18-2016 , 07:54 PM
Hots are slower than they were previously. Bigs are ~ the same, but with 10-15 minutes longer until ITM.

As far as complaints, there were near limitless complaints about the rake in turbo games. In theory slightly slowing the game can at least make the rake more palatable.

fwiw Hypers are also slower, but twice+ as much rake as previously.
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07-18-2016 , 07:59 PM
Hi there. Do you know how much slower are they than beforee with the hots? I found those hots before these changes to be really nice. Very quick 5 minute levels etc. Even that 1.10 30k tourney is very nice, basically played it almost every single time i played.


With the bigs, you mean 10-15 minutes longer until ITM but from the ITM till the finish, its still the same right? So basically the bigs are unchanged? Or would you say this is better than before?


Which turbos games were the complaints on? You mean every single hot and every turbo whether it was a regular turbo that wasn't a hot or even those splash rebuys etc? I mean, i dont find anything wrong with the rake there as i found structure and flow as very smooth etc. Also most importantly, how do you even get many tables going on now with what stars has done? Basically only hots are 11 and hot 22 and the bigs are 11, 22. There isn't any 16.50 turbo or anything like that with a 20k guarantee anymore. They do have a 7.50 hot with 20k guarantee but it goes a bit later on.
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07-18-2016 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulyJames200x
With the bigs, you mean 10-15 minutes longer until ITM but from the ITM till the finish, its still the same right?
Its similar.

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Originally Posted by PaulyJames200x
There isn't any 16.50 turbo or anything like that with a 20k guarantee anymore.
What came first, the chicken or the egg? Do you need 1300 people online that want to register a $16.50 turbo or do you need the 20k prizepool to get 1300 people to log on and play it? You're gonna have to argue with Luke about this one.
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07-19-2016 , 05:32 AM
Hi Luke,

A question regarding the MM Main Event - it used to be noted as a 2-day event in the lobby with day 1 going on for 6 hours and resuming at the same starting time on day 2.
Has this been changed to make it a one-day event, since it doesn't say it in the tourney lobby anymore?
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07-19-2016 , 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Wutever55


micromillions event everybody. because you know, keeping the fact that mixed game payouts are totally ****ed secret from a good 10k-15k people is totally a good idea.
What does that even mean? How are payouts secret?

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Originally Posted by Wutever55
even on a event this big we have no payjump for making the 8 handed FT
I've noticed live events doing this as well. It's a tough one IMO. First, it only affects a small number of players (potentially 9 out of 9K). Second, it should theoretically eliminate stalling (even though it's H4H at that point or should be, people still seem to stall to see if someone busts at the other table) but I dunno if it really does help with stalling. Absolutely hate people stalling on FT bubble even when there are pay jumps because usually they aren't meaningful.

Downside is there's no "premium" for making the FT which seems wrong. Other option would be to make a 9 handed FT but you can't really do that for Stud.

Of course then you have the weirdness at the WSOP main where FT bubble jump is massive but the ladders at the FT itself are much smaller. 10th to 9th is 350K (or more than 50% of 10th) but then 9th to 8th is 100K, 8th to 7th is 150K. Then again, they are also paying 40% of the prize pool to the top 9 places which seems pretty insane in an event with 6,737 runners. Dem milly payouts tho.

-BD
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07-19-2016 , 08:16 AM
Luke, are there any plans for adding multientries? I did enjoy the ones on FTP
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07-19-2016 , 08:36 AM
excuse me but let me be frank about this. No one gives a damn about a 1 million dollar freeroll if theres only 10k to first. Even the most casual of casual players thought it was pretty fkn lolbad there was only 10k uptop in that game. The level of excitement for this freeroll was about the same as saving money at the gas station using my speedy rewards card. Next time please make it at least 50k to first
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07-19-2016 , 08:39 AM
Hey all,

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Originally Posted by Soepgroente
I'm not sure this solution is a large improvement, 5handed ft's for 4max, 7handed for 6max and 9handed for 8max would be a lot better. No extra money for reaching the ft compared to bubbling it doesn't feel good.
As far as I know, we already have 5-handed final tables for 4-max tournaments. I agree that the others should exist as well and I'll pass on the feedback.

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Originally Posted by aariestiger
Firstly, thanks Luke for all the feedback and some nice improvements and ideas, as well as explaining ur position and opinion on things in ways that I understand.

You have been putting some extra effort in, and it will benefit all sides.

Straight up, starting to like you more and more everyday.

I am (ironically enough) enjoying the MMs schedule at first glance. I like that it is focused at micro guys less then low stakes guys- which has been the trend in the past. The gtds are not decent or good but not bad, and I don't hate the formats soooo good work, imo.
Cheers

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Originally Posted by RedBlue
Hey Luke.

The Sit&Go 2.50$ 90 Players are running very bad, only about 5/Day. I think if you change this in 90 Players 3$ Knockout Games much more will play this. But don`t change this into Turbo games, take the same structure as the 1.50$ 90 Players Knockout Games!
Please think about this!
Thanks for the feedback. I've passed it along (and the +1s) to our SNG manager.

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Originally Posted by krazykarter
As others have suggested, I like the structure that starts off with 20 > 30 > 50 > 100, or a structure similar to the reg-speed STTs.

I'll try to address my thoughts on the three points you made above, but they all kind of mix, so if something isn't clear, let me know.

With regards to shortening the late registration period, you raised two points:



To this I say, so what? Some players want to play every tournament on the schedule, but at some point, they have to realize that that is not always possible. If you continually try to accommodate every player that wants to play every tournament they will end up with longer and longer late registration periods (as has happened, they went from 10 minutes > 30 > 60 > 2 hours+). If there were tournaments starting more frequently they could register for something new without having to fill a gap with already-running tournaments. For example, instead of a single $2.20 tournament with 2 hours late-reg, do two separate tournaments with 1 hour late-reg starting an hour apart.



That's okay for the non-majors. Not every tournament has to have thousands of players with gigantic paydays. That's what the majors are for.

Your comments about shortening the period before the bubble:



1. Don't pay more players. Enough already get paid and the prize pool is far too stretched out.
2. As has been mentioned in a few posts recently, the structure can afford to be sped up a little bit early while being slowed down in the middle stages.

You have painted yourself into a bit of a corner with adding guarantees to every tournament. Guarantees used to only exist on the major tournaments. By adding them to the smaller, "support" tournaments you have taken away the "special" from the guarantees, and when participation drops you get blasted for having to reduce the guarantees on tournaments that never had them before.

In my opinion, there are three categories of tournaments:
1. Major/Weekly tournaments: They occur once a week. The Sunday Million, Sunday Storm, Super Tuesday, and the other blue tournaments. These deserve large guarantees and large fields.
2. Daily Special tournaments: These occur once a day, and mainly include the BIG/HOT/Bounty Builder tournaments, and other little special tournaments. These also deserve large guarantees and large fields.
3. Schedule fillers: Also on the daily schedule, but with no special colour or brand. The truly vanilla tournaments with nothing special about them. They are typically smaller in field size and probably don't require any sort of guarantee. They are there for the players that want to play more tables, or something other than the monstrous daily/weekly major tournament.

Also, as a final point for this post, I don't think we are saying "limit late registration to one hour on every single tournament." The larger major tournaments (special Sunday tournaments, the largest blue majors, etc...) can use longer late registration. It is mainly the little filler tournaments that fall in to the third category that should especially be limited to no more than one hour of late registration.
Thanks for the detailed response. I've bolded a couple points I'd like to address. Your first point mentions not needing to cater to people who want to play every tournament. What I meant is that players, enthusiasts and regulars alike, have tournaments that are special to them. This doesn't have to be a major or red tournament, but simply something that has registration open in a convenient time slot for them and also ends at an acceptable time.

If we were to do an A/B test, you'd quickly see that guarantees are absolutely required to garner participation. If we removed guarantees from the non-special tournaments, it doesn't mean that players would flock to the red or blue tournaments. Many would simply stop playing.

I still plan on testing a new structure in those tournaments in the near future. It would likely have 8-minute levels at the beginning, then 10 after late registration, then 12 at the final table.

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Originally Posted by GTXR1
Wrong, when the $215 was removed it had 24 players. That makes 20% over Gtd. How many times exactly did it have less than 20 entries?

Have you actually asked yourself why the FLO8 tournaments weren't performing very well overall? If you had, you would have realized that both the Daily and the Weekly were all starting outside the prime time hours (the same was true for the $215 PL/NLO8 btw).
Here is quote - which unfortunately has been ignored - to demonstrate what difference even a little time shift in ONE part of the world can make:


But instead of fixing what's wrong, you have blindly removed these tournaments. As In the case of FLO8 and ALL other individual mixed games you have officially killed the whole games.
Your alibi $55 Saturday tournaments with horrible structures and wimpy Gtd are a slap in the face to anyone having played these games before.


But players do. Just let it start Su 14:30(ET) make it re-entry, slap a 20K Gtd, make it part of Omania and have a test run for one month. I'll pay the overlay should there be any.
You're right, in 2015/6 it never had less than 20. Apologies, I misspoke. Regardless, a Sunday $530 is not going to happen. Much more likely would be an expansion of the $320 Omania High Roller brand to Tuesday/Thursday. Certainly something to consider before WCOOP starts.

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Originally Posted by Suitmeup
If Luke was Japanese he would/should have gutted himself by now


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Originally Posted by Kranke_EinZ
Please run the BB109 the canabilazation is inevitable but should be ok still
Agreed, it is out there this week.

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Originally Posted by Transcendence
Please definitely run both of those tournaments on Wednesday. There aren't enough mid-high stakes mtts to build our sessions around. Some of us can't supplement with other sites nor should we have to if there were an adequate number of tournies.

Whenever I start my session I fire up everything that is 33+ and barely hit 6 tables. Once I inevitably bust 2-3 of those in the first half hour, i am left with too few tables and no incentive to wait another few hours for the next slot of tournies to start. Way too few offerings and it's making playing any day unappealing.

I reduced from playing 4-5 times a week to barely twice. Pls at least make sure the bb 109 is there on Wednesdays. That would make Wednesday a must play because we could fire two fun tourneys with significant prize pools.

This cannibalisation argument is like the chicken and the egg scenario. The stars reps rely on it heavily and many regs that have logged considerable volume see it as completely blown out of proportion. The truth is its probably somewhere in between.

It's crazy how during any coop series the prizepools are regularly in the 100's of thousands where on a regular day we struggle to hit 15k guarantees sometimes. It's not just US players going to Canada or Mexico to play series that make them big. Nor is it the 800k emails sent out. It's the amount of high value, huge guarantee tournaments supplemented by a healthy regular mtt schedule.

I don't want to make direct comparisons here because I know they are a different animal but the demand is always there.

With fewer and fewer decent non-turbo tournaments to play, this trend may continue. Many regs don't post actively. A few I've spoken to are becoming live pros.

There are enough gimmick tournaments and I'm not even hating, I love prsko's. But what the schedule needs is more high value freezeouts with appealing first place prizes. Beef up the schedule with some regular speed 10-20k+ guarantees that add depth to a thin schedule.

Pls add more tournaments that have significant guarantees or no one is going to play them. A tournament doesn't start at a 5k guarantee and organically magically grow to 50k.

You as a site need to take risks on large guarantees that we will potentially add to our schedules. For example if I see a $82 prsko 5k gtd, it's the pits and not worth playing for a less than 1k 1st place prize. However if that same tourney is a 25k guarantee I never miss it. I know it's an extreme example but u get what I mean. It's the guarantee that decides the number of players not the other way around.

When we fire up a session it's based around there being many large tournaments to play. It's not based on one awesome 215 battle royale with smaller tournaments around it. Pls fix this and make the stars mtt schedule worth playing everyday so we don't have to all become withered live pros.


Cheers
While we've discussed the other aspects of your post many times before, I think I can chime in on the bolded as I played professionally for almost a decade before moving here. Saying it is probably somewhere in between is fair, but there's certain realities that can't be disputed:
  • Recreational players do not play a lot of tables.
  • Recreational players do not have an infinite bankroll.
  • Demand is not constant.

So, from our perspective, just imagine that we're being careful and do not want to flood the schedule with tournaments. It takes a long time to have a sample size and know exactly what is working and what isn't. While sometimes flicking a giant switch can be useful to gather data (like flipping the entire schedule on its head), most of the time we'll be taking our time to make decisions and consider the effects on the overall schedule and player pool.

When it comes to demand, I'd like to use a video game I used to spend a lot of time playing as an example. This game has a base campaign (or main schedule, so to speak ) that you can play at any time, but the developers release new content in the form of three-month-long leagues. Once the league ends, there is typically a 1-2 month break until the next league begins. This is done on purpose because the developers know that players who take a break are more likely to come back. If the leagues ran continuously year round, players would burn out incredibly quickly.

The point is that while those who play poker for a living have a nearly infinite appetite, most of our player base does not. The purpose of many promotions is to acquire / reactivate those casual players who we know won't consistently multi-table. This is the reason we cannot run series-sized tournaments every day.

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Originally Posted by Transcendence
Fwiw I love many of the new additions you have made to the schedule in the last few months. They are very encouraging. Would just like to put in more volume and given that stars offers the best product in the business, I am happy to solely play there. Also a lot of us have no access to other sites to supplement our schedule in these random Asian countries. But regardless, there is no site better to play on.
Can't pass up quoting the nice ones as well!

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Originally Posted by aariestiger
There should be mtt satties to all MM events and certainly the main event should have an abundance of satties in the regular scheduled satellite tab as well as a deadline satty.

I see that there is sng satties list, but never even glanced at it.

I'm playing every MM event I have time for, regardless (not rebuys except those .11c ones.)

But a lot of players are like me and don't give sng satties a glance, whereas mtt and deadline sats that are for games in a micro series will add thousands of extra players that won't/ can't otherwise play them.
I've passed this feedback on, thanks!

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Originally Posted by Snake-glory
Luke, thanks for the last changes. You are starting to do a good job. Keep it up and keep posting frequently, there is still a lot of work.

Btw, 1.37x min cash in "Hots" is just terrible... Make them like a "Bigs" with at least 1.75x please.
They have the same pay table as of yesterday.

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Originally Posted by krazykarter
Thanks for the +1s.

When I was talking about tournaments being special, I was referring more to my opinion that it was partially the guarantee that made them special. With regards to there being multiple instances of the same BIG/HOT/BB tournament each day, I'm okay with that. I'm not saying your opinion is wrong, just that we have different opinions here. Agree to disagree.

I am okay with it because I only have a small window where I can play MTTs. I almost never get a chance to play anything outside that window. Chances are high that I won't be seeing the same major tournament twice in that time. There are lots of special tournaments that I am unable to play due to the starting time, so I am happy when I get a second chance to play them. I can understand that the players that have time to play across a 12+ hour time period they may get bored seeing the same thing twice, but I would imagine that is a minority.

I wanted to add something else about the "filler" tournaments, but I can't really figure out exactly what it is that I want to say, and feel like most of it would be repeating my own previous post, so I am skipping that idea
Just bolding this because I think it is important!

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Originally Posted by broken_jia
+1

The #s from this years WSOP O8 events also show that, O8 is quite popular. The 1500 FLO8 got 934 players and the 10k got 163 players. I dont have the past SCOOP and WCOOP #, but it has performed well.

There's also a group of High Stakes cash players that play FLO8 and 2-7 Triple Draw. A 530 or 1050 would bring them out, but something smaller like 215, 82 or 55 may not.

I think 20k gtd is a bit rich for the first week of the tournament, but i would be willing to chip in up to a 10k gtd if there is any overlay. Over a short period of time, a 20k gtd is very realistic.
The Weekly 8-Game was supposed to bring out the cash game regulars as well! You all will have a difficult time convincing me that a niche game isn't succeeding because the buy-in is prohibitively low.

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Originally Posted by Labax
+1 Hope to see them do more of this kind of stuff
I foresee this functionality being in nearly every tournament. Baby steps, though.

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Originally Posted by ZFSB
Thanks for the replies Luke. There's been some nice changes recently, and feels like you are actually listening. MM is good, if not a tad "boring" imo. love that us micro/low stake players get some ultra deeps, an idea would be to have some $2-$22 ultra deep in the regular schedule. Anyway, thanks again
Feedback noted, thanks!

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Originally Posted by gausspoker
make 16$-22$ regulars 8game,horse,2-7 etc... the 11$s are a success already imo
Glad to see. I'll let these breathe for a bit before making more additions. Did anyone notice that some of the $2.20s were removed at the same time?

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Just leaving an empty quote to say thanks for the feedback. I still read and consider every post.

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Originally Posted by Colin_Piddle
Why are there no micro million tournaments scheduled in the off peak slots? This site does nothing for australia/new zealand/ asian players.

+1 for ultra deep low stack mtts.
There are two off peak time slots every day, at 05:00 and 19:00.

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Originally Posted by yeahm8
That 20 > 30 > 50 > 100 structure is complete aids, don't ever use that for anything. You're sitting there at 25/50 with a healthy 40 BBs and then a minute later you look over and you're at 20 bigs.
I believe in more small increases. Think of how far we've come in the past five years or so!

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Originally Posted by aariestiger
I agree that there could of been some big8 big11 special editions in the MM schedule, as well as a SE storm.

I still like that it is mainly 5.50 and under tho
The Storm was special last week and will be again this coming Sunday.


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Originally Posted by Cold10Bet
Really enjoyed the mini battle royale structure.
Can we have it implemented in more majors such as bigs ?
The structure is part of what makes the majors major. I don't have plans on changing the Bigs structure at the moment.

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Originally Posted by krazykarter
@Luke: I am aware of the new payout structure you are adding to the red tournaments (min-payout 1.75x, etc...). Is this being applied to other tournaments?
Yes, all that is left is Majors and non-special, non-NLHE tournaments. Those will be done for this coming Monday.

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Originally Posted by Wutever55
its in the same spot where the info on the bigs final tables is. you click on the structure then theres in blue text blind levels and thats where it is. they seriously hid that **** and its honestly seriously sketchy and deceptive imo. i honestly hope the bubble dash's overlay because of it even though we know they probably wont and im probably gonna be a idiot and fire them anyway.
I'm going to suggest that a pre-registration message is added in tournaments explaining what happens as well. I don't see the logic behind calling it deceptive--you're implying that we want players to think they're only playing a hyper-turbo? Surfacing complex details like this to players is difficult, not to mention that many of them do not want to be bothered by it.

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Originally Posted by Wutever55

minor little error i just noticed.
TYVM, fixed.

How do you find the volume and content of these messages? Too many? Not relevant? Any feedback is appreciated.

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Originally Posted by mesacz
more hyper phase pls
Feedback noted, thanks.

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Originally Posted by UPAY4DINNER
First Sunday in I think 8 weeks and there is still connection issues and freezes. I'm done!
Anyone else? I was the on call contact and did not receive any reports yesterday.

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Originally Posted by squire1888
this would be awesome, also bb's on saturday are putting off everyone for grinding them! not heard anyone like this
I'm sorry you don't like it, but this won't be changing. Bounty Builders perform far better than the Bigs or Hots relative to their weekdays. Players clearly enjoy the format.

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Originally Posted by deucesofclub
+1

Luke,

Please fix the payouts for Blue/Hot mtts, with these pay structures not much attractive to play.
Pay tables in the majors will be looked at and adjusted this week. The Hots were changed on Friday and are now in play.

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Originally Posted by norfair18
think u guys screwed up a bit w the sunday grand 1k. a lot of regs and stables don't include it cuz they perceive the sunday grand as a bad value 1k to fire with such a low guarantee. Had stars initially slapped a nice 500k guarantee on it, it would be doing much better instead of just letting it sit in the lobby and "organically grow." WHY can't sunday support a really good 1k, afterall there are more highstakes players online sunday than during the super tuesday/thrill???? If you're fine just having a lame 200k that will inevitably wither, maybe let's try doing the sunday grand once a month with a bigger guarantee and running satellites all month to it sounds a lot better to me.
It is the middle of summer, the Euro finals were last week, and this week is the WSOP Main Event. Give it some time.

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Originally Posted by anuj22
Some suggestions I have:

1) Lack of $2-$7.50 8max/9max non pko turbo mtts:

$2.20 at 08:10 – 12:15 ET
$3.30 at 05:15 – 14:40
$4.40 at 08:15 – 18:00
$7.50 at 03:15 – 14:50

^ Please add these tourneys. 8 max or 9 max I don’t mind but please no 6 max tourneys. We have enough 6max and pko tourneys in the schedule.

2) 8m/9m hyper mtts:

Please add $5.50 buy in 8m/9m hyper mtts at 07:35 – 11:35 Slot. We had plenty of $5 buy in hypers in that slot in the old schedule but none in the new schedule.

3) $7.50 Hyper PKO at 13:25 needs to be special on weekends:

Please make this tourney ultra deep special (with 50k stack) on Saturdays and Sundays like we had during scoop. That tourney was very very popular.

4) $1.10+R at 14:15 (the one which used to have $30K+ gtd) needs to be RED:

Please don’t let this tourney die. It used to have $30K gtd just few months back and I jokingly predicted in April that it would be $10K gtd very soon and it really did, infact its now $7.5K gtd. Wtf?

Please make this tourney just like as it was few years ago when it had 90 mins late reg. I mean Luke in your previous post you mentioned that if a tourneys late reg is dropped to 60 mins, one of the two things that would happen is its prizepool would become smaller and this is what exactly happened with this tourney. It was one of the biggest tourney couple of years ago and please don’t tell us that Stars leaving those 30 countries + recent pull out from Portugal, Israel, Slovenia etc is responsible for the downfall of this tourney. I can think of only two reasons what led to this disaster – i) Reducing late reg from 90 mins to 60 mins and ii) Rake on rebuys.
Please make this tourney RED and give it a new name like Daily Rebuy Madness and throw a nice big gtd (take a risk) and it will start growing once again or else gg this tourney. Oh and it would be great if rebuy tourneys were raked only for addons but I don't see that happening ever.

5) 3 max zoom PKO major tourney on Friday:

Why is this tourney not yet in the daily schedule? I’m sure many players loved this format and it would be huge if this became a Friday major tourney. Would love to see this tourney at 09:30-11:30 slot. We have majors at that slot only on Saturdays and Sunday. On weekdays for us Asian players either the majors start way too early or they start very late.

6) Timebomb tourney’s rake too high:

Have to mention this again. A 15 mins tourney with 10% rake is unbelievable.
Thanks for the feedback, Anuj. All noted and appreciated as always.

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Originally Posted by BoxcarHobo
Really nice job with Omania changes Luke. It seems like they're smashing the guarantees pretty well and a lot of new players are being brought to the game.

A couple thoughts:

- I usually register for a 6-7 hour block starting at 11et and during that time there is only one PLO hi Omania. I imagine there would be no trouble adding in a $27 at some point during the peak time that would perform well.

- The KOManias seem to be doing great. Is there any thought of adding one or two to the weekday schedule? One each of plo/plo8/nlo8 would be perfect.

Thanks!!
While there's no immediate changes coming to Omania, I'll keep this in mind for the future. Tuesday and Thursday still have room for Omania branded tournaments.

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Originally Posted by Wutever55


micromillions event everybody. because you know, keeping the fact that mixed game payouts are totally ****ed secret from a good 10k-15k people is totally a good idea.

even on a event this big we have no payjump for making the 8 handed FT
I've passed this feedback on.

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Originally Posted by milennial
Hi Luke,

A question regarding the MM Main Event - it used to be noted as a 2-day event in the lobby with day 1 going on for 6 hours and resuming at the same starting time on day 2.
Has this been changed to make it a one-day event, since it doesn't say it in the tourney lobby anymore?
The MicroMillions Main Event is now a one day event.

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Originally Posted by ThatsMySpot
Luke, are there any plans for adding multientries? I did enjoy the ones on FTP
Not at the moment, no.
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07-19-2016 , 09:21 AM
luke you misunderstood my post, i love the bounty builder tournaments i think there the best stars has to offer atm, i was stating that ALOT of people regs and recs alike hate the saturday bountys 75/25 psko format, its borderline terrible for everyone... the first thing a rec does as does a reg is look at 1st place when hes ITM (usualy before) and when u see withered first prize cos of the payout structure, paired with only 25% goin to the pool it makes these torunaments unattractive and weak sauce, when u factor in the rake which i wont go on about cos lolamaya there a absolute noplay for most, i love the BB mtts mon-fri and sunday, saturdays are terrible tho and its a good 30%+ of your offerings id guesstimate,

thanks for takin the time to respond appreciated
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07-19-2016 , 09:50 AM
Luke, let's be honest it's very nice of you that you have taken the time and the effort to reply pretty thoroughly on here during the last few weeks.

The only problem is that it seems to be a tad late, after horrible changes. It feels like this is now only correcting - or trying to - a situation that should never have been changed in the 1st place.

I barely play any more, am a Supernova who is working full time but used to play MTT's quite a lot until May, around 200 or so a month. By far not huge but still , I was a frequent player.

Back then the 1st prizes were so attractive, even in the big 162, hot 55, etc. Also, we never had - or almost never - min pay-out under 2x the buy in (save for psko bounty etc. of course).

I don't know there is just something that has clearly changed. The fact that I currently run like **** does not help obviously but I defo don't get the same motivation I had until all these changes were implemented. Don't really hate the new schedule, lots of improvements have been made, but the payout change was like the worst decision in thie history of PS.

And it led many people to just stop playing or really reduce how much they used to play, meaning that even by reverting to a more similar pay out structure than the one applying before means that there will be less players and hence less attractive prices.

I can only hope I am wrong but gosh it smells the end imo.

Still, thanks for addressing our questions on here.
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07-19-2016 , 10:52 AM
Yes, I feel the same way as Roc_Xel. I played about 3000 tournaments from Jan-March22 (83 days), but have only played 800 from March22 until now (108 days). Seeing these small payouts is no fun. Seeing top prize go from 18% to 15% makes me not want to play many tournaments. Same number of players but now top prize goes from 30k to 25k. Not fun
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07-19-2016 , 11:02 AM
answer this if you dare Luke, why do you killing the lowstakes mtt action?
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07-19-2016 , 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by playr
answer this if you dare Luke, why do you killing the lowstakes mtt action?
Posts like this aren't constructive.. At least be specific when offending Luke
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07-19-2016 , 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ZFSB
Posts like this aren't constructive.. At least be specific when offending Luke
here you go..i didnt find answer to these questions yet. just ingoring. so dont tell me im offending im just right about this.

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Originally Posted by playr
at least, now, if you killed the lowstakes action we got in micromillions, please tell me that you planning to develop a lowstakes series in the future. its ok you focusing more on the microplayers, but what about the lowstakes guys who have no chance to play all the scoop, wcoop, tcoop and the new micromillions isnt exciting for them. hope you dont let us die in a sng grind that u created with these changes--because it is what it feels like playing lowstakes mtts on pokerstars nowadays
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Originally Posted by playr
why do you needed to get rid of the $8 and $11 MM events that did wery well in the past. why did needed to get rid of the biggers hotters that did wery well in the past etcetc

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Originally Posted by playr
http://www.psimg.com/pdf/schedules/mm-schedule.pdf

hope this is not real. wtf is this

not a single $11 buyin event. $5.50 is the biggest one? are you serious Luke? why do you killing everything that Bryen did very well

omg

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Originally Posted by playr
what about micromillions? lol

i maen why there is not a decent series for micro/low players, there would be a huge interest for three or two tier series targeting $11-$22buyins with a decent structure like scoop. and dont say me scoop is filling this space because its clear its not true
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07-19-2016 , 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by playr
here you go..i didnt find answer to these questions yet. just ingoring. so dont tell me im offending im just right about this.
playr: please tell me that you planning to develop a lowstakes series in the future

MicroMillions IS their lowstakes series. I agree it's not great but it is what it is!

playr: why do you needed to get rid of the $8 and $11 MM events that did wery well in the past

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playr: not a single $11 buyin event. $5.50 is the biggest one? are you serious Luke? why do you killing everything that Bryen did very well


I agree these would be nice but I guess they're very specifically targeting MICRO stakes players, which goes back to your first point where I agree there is potentially room for a LOW stakes series $8.80-$22?

playr: there would be a huge interest for three or two tier series targeting $11-$22buyins with a decent structure like scoop. and dont say me scoop is filling this space because its clear its not true

^ legit didn't read this before typing my answer above! A series in this gap would be great, any chance Luke?
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07-19-2016 , 01:43 PM
+ 1 for the Series ($11-$33)

You could call them "Medium Monsters" or "Lifechanging Lowstakes" Series or something like that (I'm sure your Marketing Departement would have better Ideas than me
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07-19-2016 , 03:10 PM
I never post here (but read a lot) and have logged in only to echo what people have just said.

The most glaring gap in the Stars offering is a low-medium series (5.50 kick off to 33 or 55 main event) which targets 'keen recs', for want of a better term - a huge player base.

You should call it something like suggested above, or even something like the 'Rising Stars' series, hinting at its ability to catapult people from low stakes to medium/high stakes online tournies through a 20/30k bink or whatever.

Personally, I think it should be headlined by a $55 Red Spade Open. These haven't run for ages and used to be great. This sort of series could almost act as a warm-up to the bigger WCOOP series, or even as a late autumn/winter standalone series between WCOOP and TCOOP.
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07-19-2016 , 03:59 PM
Pretty much nothing to play between Big55 and Bounty55, so a 2.5 hours gap.
And when i`m saying nothing i mean slow freezouts.
GG Luke!
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07-19-2016 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by cr1s5t1
Pretty much nothing to play between Big55 and Bounty55, so a 2.5 hours gap.
And when i`m saying nothing i mean slow freezouts.
GG Luke!
He's trying! Can't you just say "Can we have X between this time and this time, since there is a gap between the Big $55 and the $55 BB"? You'll find people will respond better instead of being sarcastic "gg luke" smh
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07-19-2016 , 04:29 PM
Why have you changed the MM Main from 2 days to 1?
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