[OFFICIAL] PokerStars MTT Thread
Luke, you can add $3.30 PLO at 19:05 CET (13:05 ET) and $2.20 PLO8 at 23:05 CET (17:05 ET), one of them 9-max please. Also you can add some KOmania tournaments for micro and low stakes at saturday or sunday.
About blue tournaments: Would be great if you make half of them (at low stakes) a bit earlier. I mean those MTTs which is starting at 02:00 CET (20:00 ET). It's too late for EU players. And those MTTs, starting at 12:00 CET (06:00 ET) are too early. If possible, make half of them at least 23:00 CET (17:00 ET) or those who is starting to earlier, make them 19:00 CET (13:00 ET). We want play those $11 blue MTTs but we really can't. It's too early or too late at low stakes for EU players.
You can make it as follows:
Monday: $11 Mini Monday 6-Max [Early Edition] 12:00 CET (06:00 ET)
$11 Mini Monday 6-Max [Late Edition] 23:00 CET (17:00 ET)
Wednesday: $11 Mini Battle Royale [Early Edition] 12:00 CET (06:00 ET)
$11 Mini Battle Royale [Late Edition] 23:00 CET (17:00 ET)
Saturday: $11 Mini Saturday KO [Early Edition] 12:00 CET (06:00 ET)
$11 Mini Saturday KO [Late Edition] 23:00 CET (17:00 ET)
Or change early editions instead of late and make them 19:00 CET (13:00 ET)
About sunday: There is 4 good blue MTTs which starting too early or too late:
$11 Mini Sunday Starter 12:00 CET (06:00 ET)
$11 Mini Sunday Kickoff 15:00 CET (09:00 ET)
$5.50 Mini Sunday Stack 23:45 CET (17:45 ET)
$11 Mini Sunday Wrap-Up 02:00 CET (20:00 ET)
As you can see it's too early or too late for EU players who starting their session at 18:00-19:00 CET (12:00-13:00 ET), so please make some changes. Make at least half of them to start between 19:00-23:00 CET (13:00-17:00 ET)
Same with the few MTTs of medium stakes: $22 Mini Super Tuesday [Early Edition], $33 Mini Super Tuesday [Late Edition]
$22 Mini Thursday Thrill [Early Edition], $33 Mini Thursday Thrill [Late Edition]
High stakes looks good enough.
Micro stakes is lack of MTTs of course and I have a suggestions. Add some blue MTTs at sunday and make it something like $4.40 Mini Million starting at 21:00 CET (15:00 ET). Add something like $3.30 or $2.20 Sunday Battle PKO starting at 20:30 CET (14:30 ET).
Also you can change starting time at $3.30 Saturday Micro (14:00 CET (08:00 ET) is too early) and $3.30 Sunday 6-Max (16:15 CET (10:15 ET) is too early).
P.S.: $44 Sunday Marathon starting too early, $22 Mini Saturday Scuffle starting a bit late and $27 Saturday Eliminator starting a bit early. But the main thing is of course those tournaments, which I wrote above.
About blue tournaments: Would be great if you make half of them (at low stakes) a bit earlier. I mean those MTTs which is starting at 02:00 CET (20:00 ET). It's too late for EU players. And those MTTs, starting at 12:00 CET (06:00 ET) are too early. If possible, make half of them at least 23:00 CET (17:00 ET) or those who is starting to earlier, make them 19:00 CET (13:00 ET). We want play those $11 blue MTTs but we really can't. It's too early or too late at low stakes for EU players.
You can make it as follows:
Monday: $11 Mini Monday 6-Max [Early Edition] 12:00 CET (06:00 ET)
$11 Mini Monday 6-Max [Late Edition] 23:00 CET (17:00 ET)
Wednesday: $11 Mini Battle Royale [Early Edition] 12:00 CET (06:00 ET)
$11 Mini Battle Royale [Late Edition] 23:00 CET (17:00 ET)
Saturday: $11 Mini Saturday KO [Early Edition] 12:00 CET (06:00 ET)
$11 Mini Saturday KO [Late Edition] 23:00 CET (17:00 ET)
Or change early editions instead of late and make them 19:00 CET (13:00 ET)
About sunday: There is 4 good blue MTTs which starting too early or too late:
$11 Mini Sunday Starter 12:00 CET (06:00 ET)
$11 Mini Sunday Kickoff 15:00 CET (09:00 ET)
$5.50 Mini Sunday Stack 23:45 CET (17:45 ET)
$11 Mini Sunday Wrap-Up 02:00 CET (20:00 ET)
As you can see it's too early or too late for EU players who starting their session at 18:00-19:00 CET (12:00-13:00 ET), so please make some changes. Make at least half of them to start between 19:00-23:00 CET (13:00-17:00 ET)
Same with the few MTTs of medium stakes: $22 Mini Super Tuesday [Early Edition], $33 Mini Super Tuesday [Late Edition]
$22 Mini Thursday Thrill [Early Edition], $33 Mini Thursday Thrill [Late Edition]
High stakes looks good enough.
Micro stakes is lack of MTTs of course and I have a suggestions. Add some blue MTTs at sunday and make it something like $4.40 Mini Million starting at 21:00 CET (15:00 ET). Add something like $3.30 or $2.20 Sunday Battle PKO starting at 20:30 CET (14:30 ET).
Also you can change starting time at $3.30 Saturday Micro (14:00 CET (08:00 ET) is too early) and $3.30 Sunday 6-Max (16:15 CET (10:15 ET) is too early).
P.S.: $44 Sunday Marathon starting too early, $22 Mini Saturday Scuffle starting a bit late and $27 Saturday Eliminator starting a bit early. But the main thing is of course those tournaments, which I wrote above.
The early and late majors are indeed for different markets, though a significant % of the fields are from Europe. I don't foresee the starting times significantly changing, but in my last post I suggested a small tweak of 14:00, 14:30, 15:00 ET instead of the current 14:00, 15:00, 16:00 start times.
As far as PLO8 and NLO8 go, it seems like the consensus is that peak time is missing micro-stakes. Do you feel the same way? Your suggestions are both in that area.
First, thanks for responding, and for responding so quickly. Those quick responses will go a long ways to lessening some (keyword: "some") of the unhappiness in this thread.
To directly answer your questions, I think there is a good number of red tournaments during this time range, but I would like to see them spread out a little better (maybe 18:00, 19:30, and 21:00) with more of a range of buy-ins ($1.10, $3.30, and $4.40).
Yes, the rest of the time frame needs to be filled out with some more regular speed, vanilla tournaments (6-max and KO are vanilla enough for me and are still wanted). Blue tournaments would work too, but I really just want something to play.
For me a perfect schedule would consist of the following (all regular speed, preferably non-re-entry, between 18:00 and 21:30 ET):
Note: just to be clear, the KOs, 6-max, and reds are included in the one-per-thirty-minute average, across the range of preferred buy-ins.
Where that differs the most from the current schedule is
To directly answer your questions, I think there is a good number of red tournaments during this time range, but I would like to see them spread out a little better (maybe 18:00, 19:30, and 21:00) with more of a range of buy-ins ($1.10, $3.30, and $4.40).
Yes, the rest of the time frame needs to be filled out with some more regular speed, vanilla tournaments (6-max and KO are vanilla enough for me and are still wanted). Blue tournaments would work too, but I really just want something to play.
For me a perfect schedule would consist of the following (all regular speed, preferably non-re-entry, between 18:00 and 21:30 ET):
- One tournament starting every thirty minutes on average (maybe two 15 minutes apart, then two more 30-45 minutes later).
- My main focus would be a range of $0.55 to $4.40 (with maybe a $5.50 or slightly higher thrown in for the two months a year I am running hot).
- One of each of the above buy-ins, with two instances of a $2.20 and $1.10.
- Two or three red tournaments (BIGs or Bounty Builders) with the buy-ins mentioned above.
- One, maybe two 6-max tournaments, with one starting later in the session.
- Two KO tournaments (including Bounty Builders).
- Late registration would be one hour or less (except the red tournaments, which I would prefer to start earlier in the session).
- A deep-stacked tournament starting early in the session (which can have two hours of late-reg).
Note: just to be clear, the KOs, 6-max, and reds are included in the one-per-thirty-minute average, across the range of preferred buy-ins.
Where that differs the most from the current schedule is
- With re-buys filtered out there is a 45 minute gap from 18:15 to 19:00, and a 1.5 hour gap from 19:00 to 21:30. There is also a 6-max re-entry tournament at 20:30.
- Missing a non-re-entry $1.10, a $0.55, and the only $2.20 is at 18:15.
- Right now the only red tournaments are $3.30 (BIG, 19:00) and $4.40 (BB @ 21:30 and BIG @ 22:00), which isn't much of a price (or time) range.
Luke,
Why did Pokerstars have to go and make the MM ME a re-entry?
The WSOP ME isn't a a re-entry and half the MM schedule will probably end up being ruined by being re-entry structures so, why ruin the only main event that micro grinders have!
Seems you have given the edge to the non-micro grinders (who have there own multiple series in which most micro players can't afford) with bigger BR's who can afford to take extra shots.
Why did Pokerstars have to go and make the MM ME a re-entry?
The WSOP ME isn't a a re-entry and half the MM schedule will probably end up being ruined by being re-entry structures so, why ruin the only main event that micro grinders have!
Seems you have given the edge to the non-micro grinders (who have there own multiple series in which most micro players can't afford) with bigger BR's who can afford to take extra shots.
regarding the micro millions main event
to stop play for day 1 after 6 hours seems like a mistake
or maybe I am missing the point in such a short day one
why not 8-9 hours?
making day 2 should be something special
additionally
I would suggest to change the tournament to 12 min levels from the start
or maybe change it from 10 to 12 mins after the first hours (6levels)
that way you can let late registration open for 3,5 hours which would extend the number of players
Starting with day 2 I would suggest 15 min levels
I think all the players making day 2 would love to have more room to play
I really think that the main event should be something really special micro players do not often get the ooportunity to play for such an huge pricepool
There should be more special about it then the big guaranteed pricepool
to stop play for day 1 after 6 hours seems like a mistake
or maybe I am missing the point in such a short day one
why not 8-9 hours?
making day 2 should be something special
additionally
I would suggest to change the tournament to 12 min levels from the start
or maybe change it from 10 to 12 mins after the first hours (6levels)
that way you can let late registration open for 3,5 hours which would extend the number of players
Starting with day 2 I would suggest 15 min levels
I think all the players making day 2 would love to have more room to play
I really think that the main event should be something really special micro players do not often get the ooportunity to play for such an huge pricepool
There should be more special about it then the big guaranteed pricepool
thank you for the individual responses to more then one of my posts. I appreciate this.
Other than hots and 6max I don't see very much in the way of turbos that are not pkos.
I am alright with the new regular speed reentry games added to a few timeslots, I can think of 3 or maybe 4 new games added under 5$, but might have missed something since haven't played for a week or so and will be on hiatus a little longer yet to move.
We are lacking full ring non pko turbo NLHE games, which historically do very well on stars.
There are waaaaay too many micro 6max hypers. Turn a few of them into 6max turbos and full ring turbos.
there is a distinctive gap in the schedule during the big4 and bounty builder4 in the evening, we simply need 4 or more games added in the preceding 2 hours. There are two women's tournaments here, which is fine- but I can't play them. This timeslot kills a lot of micro grinder's sessions. I would often have 1 more round of registering in me if I didn't have to wait so long between games starting.
Timebombs do not count as turbos. We could do with way less of those and could do with a few more turbos or pretty much anything else!
I have suggested some ideas for games in the past, like a psko turbos with 75% kos and FT only paid, which I believe would please recs and add a lot of value in the eyes of regs.
Might not be a bad idea for Saturday bounty builders, IMO either, as the payouts are essentially meaningless right to 1st place as it is in those.
If you are gonna push timebombs so hard, make the longer ones play a little deeper stacked. Even a 5-10BB increase in stacks off the start- depending on length of tourney, could make them a lot more enjoyable all around. The 15 minute ones are fine with 15bb starting stack, IMO.
Wasn't exactly thinking I would be asked, finally, to explain something I posted.
Will be posting more as it comes to mind, please keep responding; let's have some progress on all sides.
Keep in mind I am talking about micros 100% here as that is what I grind.
Other than hots and 6max I don't see very much in the way of turbos that are not pkos.
I am alright with the new regular speed reentry games added to a few timeslots, I can think of 3 or maybe 4 new games added under 5$, but might have missed something since haven't played for a week or so and will be on hiatus a little longer yet to move.
We are lacking full ring non pko turbo NLHE games, which historically do very well on stars.
There are waaaaay too many micro 6max hypers. Turn a few of them into 6max turbos and full ring turbos.
there is a distinctive gap in the schedule during the big4 and bounty builder4 in the evening, we simply need 4 or more games added in the preceding 2 hours. There are two women's tournaments here, which is fine- but I can't play them. This timeslot kills a lot of micro grinder's sessions. I would often have 1 more round of registering in me if I didn't have to wait so long between games starting.
Timebombs do not count as turbos. We could do with way less of those and could do with a few more turbos or pretty much anything else!
I have suggested some ideas for games in the past, like a psko turbos with 75% kos and FT only paid, which I believe would please recs and add a lot of value in the eyes of regs.
Might not be a bad idea for Saturday bounty builders, IMO either, as the payouts are essentially meaningless right to 1st place as it is in those.
If you are gonna push timebombs so hard, make the longer ones play a little deeper stacked. Even a 5-10BB increase in stacks off the start- depending on length of tourney, could make them a lot more enjoyable all around. The 15 minute ones are fine with 15bb starting stack, IMO.
Wasn't exactly thinking I would be asked, finally, to explain something I posted.
Will be posting more as it comes to mind, please keep responding; let's have some progress on all sides.
Keep in mind I am talking about micros 100% here as that is what I grind.
I'm assuming the gap you refer to with the Big $4.40 and BB $4.40 is the 21:00-23:00 ET time slot?
Timebomb tournaments existed in the old schedule. In fact, there is exactly the same amount as the old schedule. They were slightly reworked to never hit the sync breaks and to have a slightly lower buy-in, but that was it.
Hey Luke,
thanks for the progress on the schedule and other stuff first of all!
However, it feels like too many promotions/adjustments are done without proper analysis and evalution still. As an outsider its obv somewhat rough to tell, but it seems like the tournament department is lacking structure/man power and possibly experience.
E.g. the upcoming MM, People have been asking for dates and tourney schedule for some time and all communication is basically done in little-info-responses with very short notice to the event. I imagine there are a lot of rec people for which MM is a highlight. With the short notice you are lowering their chances of scheduling or possibly taking a couple days off for it and thus lowering your own numbers. just as an example this seems so obvious that its hard to understand why this series is treated so much different than the big ones where it might be the one where people need advanced notice the most. For xCOOPs all regs/semi-regs will free their schedule regardless, but MM is way more of a "i would play if i could" series where the nature of the buyins doesnt make them must-plays (which would give stars the luxury of ppl even playing if stars had bad communication for those) but rather would-plays and therefore stars should have even better communication for MM
thanks for the progress on the schedule and other stuff first of all!
However, it feels like too many promotions/adjustments are done without proper analysis and evalution still. As an outsider its obv somewhat rough to tell, but it seems like the tournament department is lacking structure/man power and possibly experience.
E.g. the upcoming MM, People have been asking for dates and tourney schedule for some time and all communication is basically done in little-info-responses with very short notice to the event. I imagine there are a lot of rec people for which MM is a highlight. With the short notice you are lowering their chances of scheduling or possibly taking a couple days off for it and thus lowering your own numbers. just as an example this seems so obvious that its hard to understand why this series is treated so much different than the big ones where it might be the one where people need advanced notice the most. For xCOOPs all regs/semi-regs will free their schedule regardless, but MM is way more of a "i would play if i could" series where the nature of the buyins doesnt make them must-plays (which would give stars the luxury of ppl even playing if stars had bad communication for those) but rather would-plays and therefore stars should have even better communication for MM
[B]Luke I agree the re-entry format doesnt seem to be an issue in the omaha formats, but as has been mentioned many times before, making them all 6-max has definitely upset many of the plo8/nlo8 community and I cant see any reason why there shouldn't be at least a 50/50 mix of 6-max and FR.
I think I read (can't find it now) that you were going to change some back after Euro's...Is that correct??? And if so, do you have an idea of how many (%) will go back to FR or even 8-max?
Cheers
I think I read (can't find it now) that you were going to change some back after Euro's...Is that correct??? And if so, do you have an idea of how many (%) will go back to FR or even 8-max?
Cheers
In Micros:
IMO filter out hypers, rebuys and timebombs and anywhere you see a gap where there is more then 20 mins between the starts of tourneys needs a game added. I would love to see more regular 8 max, and even some 8 max turbos. Like a .55c turbo, and a 2.20 regular.
I get it if these would have to be reentry, fine, let's just add some games.
We have like the perfect amount of ante up games, so please don't add anymore of those.
I would like to see another 3-stack as there is only one that I am aware of, and it's very early in the morning. How about one in the late afternoon or evening? maybe a $2.20..
IMO filter out hypers, rebuys and timebombs and anywhere you see a gap where there is more then 20 mins between the starts of tourneys needs a game added. I would love to see more regular 8 max, and even some 8 max turbos. Like a .55c turbo, and a 2.20 regular.
I get it if these would have to be reentry, fine, let's just add some games.
We have like the perfect amount of ante up games, so please don't add anymore of those.
I would like to see another 3-stack as there is only one that I am aware of, and it's very early in the morning. How about one in the late afternoon or evening? maybe a $2.20..
About micros :
I would love to see some more Deepstack mtts.
now you have the 2.2 & 5.5 Deepstack , lets make a 1.1 , 2.2 , 3.3 , 4.4 , 5.5 , 7.5$ version of those like the big/hot/bountybuilder series.
Also : more blue micro tournies like a micro version of the Weekender , a micro Thursday Thrill , a micro Supersized Sunday with buyins from 3$ to 7.5$.
thanks Luke for your efforts .
I would love to see some more Deepstack mtts.
now you have the 2.2 & 5.5 Deepstack , lets make a 1.1 , 2.2 , 3.3 , 4.4 , 5.5 , 7.5$ version of those like the big/hot/bountybuilder series.
Also : more blue micro tournies like a micro version of the Weekender , a micro Thursday Thrill , a micro Supersized Sunday with buyins from 3$ to 7.5$.
thanks Luke for your efforts .
Which parts do you disagree with, and how would you improve it?
In your other posts you talk a bit about timebombs and turbos. I hate playing turbos (personal preference), so I didn't include any. Obviously I am not saying to remove all turbos, just that I would not include them in my session. Because of that, I cannot offer much of an opinion on adding/moving turbo tournaments.
With regards to timebombs, I enjoy playing the slower ones. There used to be a 60 minute version with 6*10 minute levels which I enjoyed playing. I would like to see those come back (even if they only get 30-50 people, that's good enough for me). I am not a fan of the 15 minute ones, or the 30 minute versions with 6*5 minute levels. Similar to the turbos, I cannot comment about that part of the schedule.
You mentioned 8-max tournaments. I would be okay if one or more of the tournaments in my session were 8-max.
You also mentioned having four tournaments an hour, with roughly one every 15 minutes. I usually 4-table, so for me, that's too much. If some were turbos it wouldn't affect me as I would have them filtered out, but if they were all regular speed, I would register whatever started the soonest to fill my table count. As a result some nights I would register one tournament but not the other, but it wouldn't always be the same every night (depending on when I bust and need to refill a table).
That's just my personal preference based on my own play, and I'm not saying that's the way it must be or else I'm leaving. We're just two people with similar but still different playing preferences. I would hate to try to come up with something to satisfy thousands (i.e. I would hate to have to create the schedule).
In your other posts you talk a bit about timebombs and turbos. I hate playing turbos (personal preference), so I didn't include any. Obviously I am not saying to remove all turbos, just that I would not include them in my session. Because of that, I cannot offer much of an opinion on adding/moving turbo tournaments.
With regards to timebombs, I enjoy playing the slower ones. There used to be a 60 minute version with 6*10 minute levels which I enjoyed playing. I would like to see those come back (even if they only get 30-50 people, that's good enough for me). I am not a fan of the 15 minute ones, or the 30 minute versions with 6*5 minute levels. Similar to the turbos, I cannot comment about that part of the schedule.
You mentioned 8-max tournaments. I would be okay if one or more of the tournaments in my session were 8-max.
You also mentioned having four tournaments an hour, with roughly one every 15 minutes. I usually 4-table, so for me, that's too much. If some were turbos it wouldn't affect me as I would have them filtered out, but if they were all regular speed, I would register whatever started the soonest to fill my table count. As a result some nights I would register one tournament but not the other, but it wouldn't always be the same every night (depending on when I bust and need to refill a table).
That's just my personal preference based on my own play, and I'm not saying that's the way it must be or else I'm leaving. We're just two people with similar but still different playing preferences. I would hate to try to come up with something to satisfy thousands (i.e. I would hate to have to create the schedule).
For what it's worth, when I'm talking about the schedule here, I'm typically not including Timebomb in my statements. For instance, if I was talking about full ring turbo tournaments, I would not be lumping Timebomb in with those.
We'll be running EPT Barcelona Spin & Gos, so this isn't possible this time around.
You cant take this rep seriously after you read his response to sect7g.How could anyone believe the microstakes schedule is better now and creates excitement.
Whats exciting about rubbish payouts where you win far less than you use to, everything being 6 max, all classic micro stake tournaments like 3r being removed, all classic micro tournaments not being supported at all like 1r x3, only tournaments with a good gtd being a ****ing bounty builder, every promotion pushing you to play a spin and go.The list goes on.
The micro stakes schedule now is about as exciting as the $2 ante up $200 gtd getting a GUARANTEE BOOST to $250 gtd
Whats exciting about rubbish payouts where you win far less than you use to, everything being 6 max, all classic micro stake tournaments like 3r being removed, all classic micro tournaments not being supported at all like 1r x3, only tournaments with a good gtd being a ****ing bounty builder, every promotion pushing you to play a spin and go.The list goes on.
The micro stakes schedule now is about as exciting as the $2 ante up $200 gtd getting a GUARANTEE BOOST to $250 gtd
I wouldn't have minded the large influx of 6-max hypers if it weren't for the increase in rake and decrease of rakeback. Basically everything thats >55$ is a rake trap and unbeatable pre rakeback for anyone but top tier SNG-regs.
The (ante)structure on hypers desperately need a revamp imo. There's room for a handful more blind levels and/or different starting stacks.
Ideally the structure would resemble that of a bounty builder w/ 15% antes imo.
The (ante)structure on hypers desperately need a revamp imo. There's room for a handful more blind levels and/or different starting stacks.
Ideally the structure would resemble that of a bounty builder w/ 15% antes imo.
Done beginning Monday. I've also made a lobby flyer to go up next week until Sunday.
currently there are no 15$ 180mans in the lobby. Is that normal this time of day?
The small tweak of 14:00, 14:30, 15:00 ET instead of the current 14:00, 15:00, 16:00 start times will help a bit.
Just add few PLO MTTs reg speed in that time slot 19:05 CET (13:05 ET) and at 23:05 CET (17:05 ET). $3.30 and $2.20 if possible.
PLO and PLO8 would be great, but if you add just 2 PLO it's ok too.
P.S.: Please add some NLHE reg speed between 22:45-00:15 CET (16:45-18:15 ET). Buy in $2.20-$4.40.
Just add few PLO MTTs reg speed in that time slot 19:05 CET (13:05 ET) and at 23:05 CET (17:05 ET). $3.30 and $2.20 if possible.
PLO and PLO8 would be great, but if you add just 2 PLO it's ok too.
P.S.: Please add some NLHE reg speed between 22:45-00:15 CET (16:45-18:15 ET). Buy in $2.20-$4.40.
It's good to have you back luke.
Awesome news. That's something positive at least! While you are evaluating the effects of the change, please take a look at the overall structure. For example, Big109 plays really really swallow between the 3 and 4 hour mark, with an average stack constantly below 30bb. I'm sure this change will make FTs' gameplay a lot better, but the previous stages still need some tweaking imo, at least the bigger buyins.
Think it was the SM one I was referring to, though I've had the same thought a few times that it looks a bit cheap/tacky. Maybe I'm just aesthetically over-sensitive
Sunday Million as a 2 day event would be be something I'd love to see implemented on a personal level.
Yes please to the trial.
I can understand the argument that player pool is different on a normal Monday to a COOP, although I doubt it's different in a way that makes 2 days less appealing.
i.e. those with jobs, especially from Europe, would find regging it weekly much more viable.
I know Monday is a day avoided by many regs, but i'm sure people could make an exception if they had $1.5-2k locked in the SM and a chance to play for $200k.
Yes please to the trial.
I can understand the argument that player pool is different on a normal Monday to a COOP, although I doubt it's different in a way that makes 2 days less appealing.
i.e. those with jobs, especially from Europe, would find regging it weekly much more viable.
I know Monday is a day avoided by many regs, but i'm sure people could make an exception if they had $1.5-2k locked in the SM and a chance to play for $200k.
would never work in my opinion since 70%+ of the field have a regular job on monday
That's exactly why it works. I'm one of that 70%, I'm from the UK.
It finishes at 8:00a.m. Monday morning for me in the UK. Which is 9 in Europe, 10 in Russia etc etc.
If you have a job, that's pretty hard to fire regularly.
However, if it cant run later than 3:00a.m. then that's another matter.
I do see how it's complicated though due to people in Canada/ROW.
It finishes at 8:00a.m. Monday morning for me in the UK. Which is 9 in Europe, 10 in Russia etc etc.
If you have a job, that's pretty hard to fire regularly.
However, if it cant run later than 3:00a.m. then that's another matter.
I do see how it's complicated though due to people in Canada/ROW.
I think I pointed out adequately that there is little or no balance in the new schedule. Thanks for brushing aside all my suggestions, tho.
I like the idea of 2 day Sunday Million a lot ..Especially if some structural changes will be made in order to maintain 40 bb avg stacks day2
I work fulltime and I always skip SM except for major series. Two day event would make me play more often. It starts at 20:00, everybody who has a job will be back home for the 2nd day already, and be pumped to play if you make it significant enough (semi late ITM).
A big yes for making SM a 2-day.
I'm also in for 2-day SM, it would definitely make it more significant etc, but the majority of the people posting itt are regs so the feedback about a tournament filled with recs is probably not very reflective of the overall consensus, especially since we're talking about a very drastic and significant change and not simpel structural changes.
2-day SM sounds very nice!
I'm also in for 2-day SM, it would definitely make it more significant etc, but the majority of the people posting itt are regs so the feedback about a tournament filled with recs is probably not very reflective of the overall consensus, especially since we're talking about a very drastic and significant change and not simpel structural changes.
Europe makes up for 90%+ of their players though, stars cater for huge markets in Canada and South America
There is a 1.10 6max MTT at 12.25pm ET and a 3.30 6max at 4.40pm ET.
Please could we have a 2.20 regular speed 6max at around 2.30pm ET.
Every hour throughout the day at 23 minutes past the hour, you have alternating HORSE and 8-Game micro MTTs. However, at peak time for 2 hours, you have chosen not to have them where there are $27 versions. We're not going to play a $27 MTT because a $2 one isn't available.
Please could we have a 2.20 8-Game and a 2.20 HORSE at 2.23pm and 3.23pm ET like throughout the rest of the schedule. Or maybe $3.30 versions as it is peak time.
I like straight up PLO Hi MTTs, whether 6max or 9max, but at the micro level around peak hours, we only have a 2.20 PLO 6max at 12.09pm ET with around 350+ runners, and a 3.30 PLO 6max turbo at 1.39pm ET with nearly 300 runners. There is a hyper one after 3pm, but thats too fast for me. So given the field sizes, it shows there is demand for PLO Hi.
Please can we have a couple more PLO Hi micros around peak hours, preferably regular speed ones. 6-max or 9-max is fine with me.
Thanks for your time!
Please could we have a 2.20 regular speed 6max at around 2.30pm ET.
Every hour throughout the day at 23 minutes past the hour, you have alternating HORSE and 8-Game micro MTTs. However, at peak time for 2 hours, you have chosen not to have them where there are $27 versions. We're not going to play a $27 MTT because a $2 one isn't available.
Please could we have a 2.20 8-Game and a 2.20 HORSE at 2.23pm and 3.23pm ET like throughout the rest of the schedule. Or maybe $3.30 versions as it is peak time.
I like straight up PLO Hi MTTs, whether 6max or 9max, but at the micro level around peak hours, we only have a 2.20 PLO 6max at 12.09pm ET with around 350+ runners, and a 3.30 PLO 6max turbo at 1.39pm ET with nearly 300 runners. There is a hyper one after 3pm, but thats too fast for me. So given the field sizes, it shows there is demand for PLO Hi.
Please can we have a couple more PLO Hi micros around peak hours, preferably regular speed ones. 6-max or 9-max is fine with me.
Thanks for your time!
Very big yes for 2-day Sunday million ( although I played it once ).
I think optimally it should be made to stop around 27-18 Left for day 2
I think optimally it should be made to stop around 27-18 Left for day 2
Poker pro's are the one with potentially adjusted sleep schedules. I'd think that recreational players much much more than pro's would appreciate sessions shorter than 8 hours and not having to play until 2 hours before they have to get up for work. Another big advantage of a 2-day sunday million could be 20min levels on day 2. I just don't really see a downside to it, but I think in practice numbers are pretty similar. The long-term overall happiness of the players playing it is probably a lot better as a 2-day though.
@margenov a time limit seems a lot better than X amount of players left to me, it's much clearer and predictable so people can plan their play in combination with work or whatever else. And your suggestion still makes day 1 last until 5am which doesn't accomplish much in the main region this change would target. Though I suppose it'd help for the eastern americas.
@margenov a time limit seems a lot better than X amount of players left to me, it's much clearer and predictable so people can plan their play in combination with work or whatever else. And your suggestion still makes day 1 last until 5am which doesn't accomplish much in the main region this change would target. Though I suppose it'd help for the eastern americas.
Poker pro's are the one with potentially adjusted sleep schedules. I'd think that recreational players much much more than pro's would appreciate sessions shorter than 8 hours and not having to play until 2 hours before they have to get up for work. Another big advantage of a 2-day sunday million could be 20min levels on day 2. I just don't really see a downside to it, but I think in practice numbers are pretty similar. The long-term overall happiness of the players playing it is probably a lot better as a 2-day though.
@margenov a time limit seems a lot better than X amount of players left to me, it's much clearer and predictable so people can plan their play in combination with work or whatever else. And your suggestion still makes day 1 last until 5am which doesn't accomplish much in the main region this change would target. Though I suppose it'd help for the eastern americas.
@margenov a time limit seems a lot better than X amount of players left to me, it's much clearer and predictable so people can plan their play in combination with work or whatever else. And your suggestion still makes day 1 last until 5am which doesn't accomplish much in the main region this change would target. Though I suppose it'd help for the eastern americas.
I used to play both everyday in the old schedule. Now I only play the BB109 cuz frankly there aren't enough mid/hs non-turbo offerings in the current schedule for me to want to start my day a couple hours earlier and reg a B109 40k. Prefer these tournaments closer together, the data shows it worked well.
Great changes on the final tables playing longer! And thx for participating in the thread.
Any thoughts on adding in higher buyin phase Mtts like the $11 one?
like $55/$109/$215 along those lines, like a low(which we already have) a 'medium' and a 'high'
Suppose a micro one wouldn't go a miss either as there are so many micro fans.
like $55/$109/$215 along those lines, like a low(which we already have) a 'medium' and a 'high'
Suppose a micro one wouldn't go a miss either as there are so many micro fans.
Moving the hot 44 back even just half an hour earlier would be pretty key. If you swap the start time with the 109 hyper, I'd bet more players would fire BOTH instead of skipping the 44 if busting the 109 hyper first. More incentive for the guys playing higher that mix the mid stuff in on top of high stakes to fire the 215 hot as well with this setup.
What do you guys think?
What do you guys think?
Luke, thanks for the new heads-up 32 man sitngo. A few different buy-ins might be good.
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