they must of upped it my bad, back to my cage

Yes that's right. The tourney was the "$700 Super-Sized Sunday [Progressive KO], $100K Gtd" in May - then at some point in June it became the "$700 Super-Sized Sunday [Progressive KO], $175K Gtd Guarantee Boost!"

I can see from the ProPokerTools site that the guarantee was increased ["Guarantee Boost!"] in time for last Sunday's tournament at the absolute latest - perhaps the week before. I assume that PokerStars are 'social engineering' players to go for the quicker formats for obvious reasons, but I don't know the MTT environment well enough to be sure what's changed, where & by how much.

Are guarantees being upped in PSKO formats & lowered in others?

the thing is the guarantee boosts are like stars are randomly clicking buttons, at first luke said he didn't have enough time in the day (then a number got boosted) after i posted regarding them.

The thing is the double deuce 22 turob got approx 97k 2 weeks ago 94k a week ago and just over 90k today and never recieved a boost from its 50k.

Next week it will likely get under 90k and once it reaches 70k they will drop the 50k to 45k and so forth till it has a 20k guarantee.

It's not good enough to just gives guarantees a boost once in a blue moon and not monitor them.

When tournaments massively overlay their guarantees and do not receive increased guarantees they tend to receive less and less runners each week.

OK. If they are doing things that way it's bad. How about my wild guess that PS are attempting to shift the population to shorter formats? Do you really mean it when you say it looks like "stars are randomly clicking buttons"? You see no patterns in the shifting of guarantees emphasis?

Another question for my interest - a slight change of subject: Looking on as a cash games player [that's what I am] the Progressive KOs are a very interesting format - I haven't played one but it looks as if one has to understand some advanced poker concepts to get full benefit from these. Although the variance is higher for everyone in these games it is also much harder for a rec to play these soundly - many situations are totally non-standard & there are times when stacks & bounties demand one has to play some quite weak hands. Because there's so much value to scoop up...

What I've just written in that para - is it correct? If so why aren't the skilled tourney players in this thread praising PSKOs? Why is this thread 90% long faces? For the ones who can adapt it must be raining dollars from heaven on pokerStars surely? Or have I misunderstood something?

I am asking these questions because I want to learn/understand the online MTT world. I'm hoping I read some interesting thoughts here rather than being 'dogpiled' with short, snide witticisms [I've seen it done before to other people all over 2+2]. We shall see.

Playing well and getting knockouts do not necessarily go hand in hand. You'll see players in the top 10 after two hours with 0 knockouts and players on the brink of busting with 6+ knockouts. It's also cutting the prizepool in half so your mincash really is a min cash and in some instances is actually less than the buy-in.

I think the shift towards them is because it gives a rec player the sense that they're getting something back from their buyin even though they don't make it 'in the money' in the normal sense.

Please could we have a couple of micro Omania MTTs at peak time. Currently the only micro version is early in the day.

zoom 180s. What is the current state of play there? Like ZOOM On Demand 180s perhaps. Do think the format needs late reg to ensure a good mix of players

Luke, so this is meant to be a discussion thread, isn't it? Regarding the current payout structures there has never been any form of discussion going on, has it? You simply informed the community that more pay tables are the way to go for Pokerstars and you even pointed out in one post that "this issue" is already solved because you just won't change it back and this will "...be rolled over in the upcoming months...", period.
Now, may us customers get a chance to discuss this problem with you? All we got were a couple of pro arguments from your side. You haven't replied to a single contra argument, yet this is an official discussion thread apparently. Might as well change it to official announcement thread.

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why do we keep posting here?

im sorry if this has been discussed (which it probably was), but whats the deal with the ridic payouts? are they just trying it out or they just decided to keep it that way forever? i mean 9th place to amount to 5% of 1st place is just horrible + im not going to even start with 14-15% people cashing instead of the good ol 10-11%..

(sry guys im not a full time MTT pro, but since im observing these changes it blows my mind so just want to know if they are going to be permanent)

Serious question, is it really the end of the world if a small stakes turbo or any kind of MTT ever has a tiny overlay? Like seriously, will Amaya go bankrupt because of a $600 overlay? It seems like they are literally fearing for theyr lives to ever have a ¢1 overlay. Every single mtt guarantee has been strained to the absolute maximum, it just feels cheap and pathetic.

can someone tell me what changes they made in the structure of the 162 ultra deep?

It used to be 20 minute levels for the second half. It's now 15.

I guess at this point it's just to vent our frustrations, and publicly shame stars, because there is really no other point to these correspondences anymore. They are very one sided.

I think it is important for us to at least put the pressure on max.

Who is Max?

Max is Pokerstars Luke I guess

+1

Funny how the 44bb is 40k gtd now, yet the 7r (which used to be quite decent/big) only has 4k gtd anymore. yet you are not killing rebuys, right? I wonder if it even overlayed that much before you decreased it.

Here it is really ridiculous.. in PS software improvement thread Keith from ps, he replies almost instantly.. and here ???? hahahahahha, GJ LUKE, GJ !!!!

+1

that is so absurd

luke too busy randomly clicking gtd boost on pskos to show up in this thread?

Seriously though posting in here serves 0 purpose, so might as well stop wasting your time. Either Luke is unfathomably terrible at his job, or he has his hands tied by a bunch of brain dead businessmen who have huge egos and know nothing about poker. Either way nothing is going to improve.

I would prefer some of the 6max pskos get converted to full ring. Especially near the end of the day there is a bunch of 6max tournys all bunched together. Maybe spread them out better or just convert some to full ring.

Luke would prefer you to stop posting. But we can't all have nice things.

i would prefer that the flood of progressive super KOs stops. wtf happened?