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05-21-2016 , 07:05 PM
As someone who benefits from the nstack structure in omanias, i will admit that demonic is correct
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05-21-2016 , 07:15 PM
-Cant understand cutting hu hyper mtts but stuff like ante up is in the schedule and timebombs are everywhere. I don’t think the 32 player hu sng is a replacement.

-Have some hyper mtts be 9 max, I prefer 6max hypers but doesnt mean I want them all to be 6max. Too many turbos have become 6max as well.

-Bring back some 2x turbo mtts

-The $27 normal ko’s were good mtts, not everything needs to be psko.

-You could definitely have a 3x and 2x satellite to each hot. Time them so they end after hot is starting if don’t want people to unreg. Just having 1 hyper turbo deep and 1 hyper turbo to every single hot doesn’t seem very creative. I’ve always preferred turbo and hyper mtts but I have satted into way more reg speed mtts because they always have had more and better sats for some reason.

Overall the new schedule is alright for hyper/turbo’s at low/med stakes but I feel it lacks some of the variety of the old schedule.
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05-21-2016 , 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Rx_
I think I just found a goldmine on stars. 8.76% of half the prizepool goes to first. Is that something you might be interested in? PM me
Spoiler:
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05-21-2016 , 10:30 PM
I know Luke doesn't want to talk about rake, rrrr I mean the flatter payouts, but this issue + the summer coming is going to absolutely cripple the prizepools. And you guys aren't even finished ironing ! Im literally playing on a site with no ****ing synced breaks because Im getting way more value for my buyins. And I actually look forward to playing on that site w/o synced breaks. Even tho its kind of a pain in the ass, at least I don't feel like a bunch of greedy, insincere people are trying to **** me over


We need more of this:



not this:


Last edited by Rx_; 05-21-2016 at 10:43 PM.
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05-21-2016 , 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Demonic16
The problem with 27 3 stack Omania's is in my opinion that the structures become ruined early on because people know it is correct to only buy in with one stack. So you end up with a bunch of 20bb or shorter poker for most of the table, followed by even more short stack poker. If I was an average Joe on a Wednesday night I'd want a bit more play for my money. The stacks take absolutely forever to come into play thanks to the late registration period. They just aren't much fun.
I think a 320 3 stack 6 max Omaha would see increased participation because of this format if the structure can be balanced.

NLO8t 215 late on sundays? It could easily be the first 100k guaranteed none hold'em weekly comp. Weeklys 4cards should be back too. I think o8 is ok as a fr game but omaha should stay mostly 6max imo.
+1 to all these.

Could legit see a Sunday NLO8 turbo maybe psko version getting 50-100k prizepool.
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05-22-2016 , 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Rx_
I know Luke doesn't want to talk about rake, rrrr I mean the flatter payouts, but this issue + the summer coming is going to absolutely cripple the prizepools. And you guys aren't even finished ironing ! Im literally playing on a site with no ****ing synced breaks because Im getting way more value for my buyins. And I actually look forward to playing on that site w/o synced breaks. Even tho its kind of a pain in the ass, at least I don't feel like a bunch of greedy, insincere people are trying to **** me over


We need more of this:



not this:

+1
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05-22-2016 , 05:56 AM
I love all the hypers being 6max, it's strictly better than 9max for hypers. 9max would play 8-12bbs deep whilst 6max plays 15-25bbs deep yet still finishes in 90-120mins. Around bubbles 9max often would play 4-6bbs deep which is ridiculous and something almost no one enjoys.

Please keep hypers 6max!
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05-22-2016 , 06:28 AM
why on earth Day 2 of SCOOP-51 is on Monday?! at 15:30CET?! I qualified two weeks ago and I was shocked to see that, seriously?
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05-22-2016 , 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by mashxx
why on earth Day 2 of SCOOP-51 is on Monday?! at 15:30CET?! I qualified two weeks ago and I was shocked to see that, seriously?
100% your fault for not reading when the Day 2 was and the time it started before registering
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05-22-2016 , 11:15 AM
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100% your fault for not reading when the Day 2 was and the time it started before registering
Yeah, sure, but with many Scoop tournaments being somewhat of an equivalent for regular ones it blows my mind that it's not finished on Sunday. The start time adds to the frustration.
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05-22-2016 , 12:31 PM
start time actually got pushed 1h30 after complaints/feedback. So it was actually worse when you qualified.
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05-22-2016 , 12:57 PM
Luke, you should, at the very least, consider listening to people about the payouts. When more ppl start noticing that a 109 on party is softer and has nicer looking top 3 payouts with less runners than a 109 on stars, they're going to jump ship. I played ~2000 tournies in March. Ive maybe played 200 games since then and shifted the other 90% to other sites and the last 2 months have been pretty damn solid, much better than I expected. Not just results-wise, but emotionally as well. I don't feel like the sites im playing on are sitting in a back room devising new ways to reduce my ROI in a way that is least likely to piss me off and force me to leave
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05-22-2016 , 01:07 PM
iirc storm used to be 300k lil while ago? today its a whopping 225k lol

should be renamed titanicstars cos its going down slowly bit by bit

Last edited by The Moo; 05-22-2016 at 01:09 PM. Reason: its SCOOP time and amaya still reducing gtds
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05-22-2016 , 01:42 PM
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start time actually got pushed 1h30 after complaints/feedback. So it was actually worse when you qualified.
I don't like it and I think it's still a terrible idea but Bryan at least responds to ALL of the complaints and tries to explain everything, even difficult matters. I hate his explanation but I appreciate it a lot and I'll shut up about it now. Just check SCOOP thread Luke on how a rep should communicate with the players.

edit: or Keith, another hero, although in a much less difficult position.
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05-22-2016 , 01:59 PM
Not sure if Bryan has said anything but I always assumed the Phase was so they could serve the early morning market without actually scheduling weekday events that early. Like in past series they had 6am et and 8am et events. This year they just ran a Kickoff Phase so those time periods had events on an off all month.
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05-22-2016 , 03:06 PM
1$R 3x-turbo down to 10k$ gtd now.

1.6k$ for first when it was 11k$ 2years ago



Do people think the 3x-turbo are just gone and don't reg the renamed ones?
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05-22-2016 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Uhrenknecht
1$R 3x-turbo down to 10k now.

1.6k for first when it was 11k 2years ago
yuyp and im sure everyone is super motivated to spend a few hours indoors on a nice day to play this ****
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05-22-2016 , 03:16 PM
I'd play it on mobile if it was 30k+
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05-22-2016 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by anuj22 on 21st March
$1.10+R from $60K gtd to 40K to 35k to 30k to 10k?
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05-22-2016 , 03:36 PM
8k GTD incoming haha

but ya lets add a bunch of random rebuys to the schedule and slap 2k GTDs on them because the liquidity is certainly there

too bad that didn't happen 3-4 years ago when everyone was asking but fell on def ears
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05-22-2016 , 05:28 PM
This is my first post on 2 plus 2 as i never felt the need before but after recent changes i just want to say this.I'm a rec player who has played stars for years. I generally keep Sundays free when i am off work but next weekend i will be missing my first Sunday in years. I don't like the new structure, a lot of the big's and hots are not there anymore, the sat's have been changed and have i mentioned the payout structure sucks. The ways you have changed the payout structure is ridiculous. Your not even getting double your buy in back for cashing.For the first time since black Friday i am thinking about playing on another site. Sort it out or you will find a lot of people feeling like me.
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05-23-2016 , 02:58 AM
Day 2 of #51L pays 4950 people, but 4909 qualified, what are you going to do with the $410?
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05-23-2016 , 03:34 AM
#51M is already guaranteed to pay more than qualified, I suppose it will apply to H as well

edit: paid 990, 954 qualified, another $4600
edit2: #51H, paid 324, entries 266, left in last phase 46, so guaranteed to happen as well

Last edited by mashxx; 05-23-2016 at 03:54 AM.
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05-23-2016 , 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Uhrenknecht
1$R 3x-turbo down to 10k$ gtd now.

1.6k$ for first when it was 11k$ 2years ago



Do people think the 3x-turbo are just gone and don't reg the renamed ones?
I don't play rebuys anymore because they rake rebuys, I'm sure a lot of people do the same.
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Hey Luke,

Is there going to be any promotions for tournament players during the summer like last year with the summer tournament leaderboard?
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05-23-2016 , 05:05 AM
oh yeah, forgot that horrible rake. sry.
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