[OFFICIAL] PokerStars MTT Thread - Page 150 - MTT Poker Strategy

Given that 99% of us are asking for the same thing it's not impossible to please the majority. They're not even outrageous demands, we're just wondering why the structures have been altered for the worse (in general), why the payout structures have been made flatter and questioning the new schedule that has killed the low stakes game. I've never seen this thread so busy yet all we get is sporadic posts from Luke that answer very few of the questions asked, if any.

You or anyone can tell me how it's not Luke's fault as it's coming from above his head but the fact of the matter is that he is representing Stars and getting paid for it. He avoids our questions and patronises us lower stakes recs. He will get some sympathy when he earns it.

I agree that most of the people in this thread have some similar ideas about what they want to have happen, but it's important to realize that people will complain about things they don't like far more than they will post "I like the changes. Keep it up." So if he instituted every single change you wanted, this thread would likely be full of people posting about the changes they want and how terrible things are. He's also trying to balance what casual players who would never even think to visit a poker forum would like the schedule to look like, which is monumentally important for people who want to continue to make a living at the game.

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05-04-2016 , 01:12 PM

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mashxx

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Originally Posted by BoxcarHobo

Umm no

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05-04-2016 , 01:23 PM

#3728

Protential

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Originally Posted by BoxcarHobo

Generally I'd agree.

But based on what people post lately: no.

This is most active and has the most consensus a thread like this has ever had on 2+2 based on tournaments.

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05-04-2016 , 01:29 PM

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BoxcarHobo

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Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 54

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Originally Posted by mashxx

Umm no

I should also say that I actually agree with most of the posts. I want bigs to have better levels/payouts just like everyone. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I've played poker for a living for >10 years now and, on the larger scale, poker players are the most perpetually dissatisfied group of people I've ever spent time around. Find someone who won a tourney for 100k last year and most of the time he'll say that he should have won two

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05-04-2016 , 02:30 PM

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DaCus3

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Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,292

what in the actual **** is the justification for lower b55 gtd.

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05-04-2016 , 02:37 PM

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OurSurveySays

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 5,486

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Originally Posted by DaCus3

what in the actual **** is the justification for lower b55 gtd.

Champions league game prob.

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05-04-2016 , 02:48 PM

#3732

DaCus3

old hand

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,292

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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays

Champions league game prob.

wouldnt wanna overlay 1000 bucks on an mtt u rake 5k in

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05-04-2016 , 02:54 PM

#3733

DoGGz

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Looks like a perfect time to fix the BIG structure before the B55 declines further.

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05-04-2016 , 03:05 PM

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Big_Mick00

Verified Coach MTT

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 8,688

with SCOOP coming up iv been more than happy to skip playing these bad structures and do some studying. I'm sure i'm not the only one.

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05-04-2016 , 03:19 PM

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mashxx

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gotta love all these recs storming the site and be anxious to play new mtts

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05-04-2016 , 03:41 PM

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Joey86bu

newbie

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 27

Awesome job with the 2 new additions to the schedule.
The $7.50 and $11 freeze outs.
I thought the counter argument to the crap structures was 5k starting stacks?
Isn't it great that these games have 3k starting stax along with 8 min blinds?

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05-04-2016 , 03:42 PM

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Karedog

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Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 18

we asked for more vanilla freezeouts at 1-33$ level. I thought oh look cool they listened, a 22$ 4k gtd at 21:10 CET, regular speed mtt with a small field. doesnt say its a turbo. i open lobby, 3k start stack 8 min blinds.are u actually serious???? what the **** is happening to this site??

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05-04-2016 , 03:53 PM

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MEATBALLS ALLIN

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Originally Posted by Karedog

The guarantees (which are dropping every day) are main focus right now, the structures are fine, Luke said so !!

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05-04-2016 , 03:55 PM

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yo_yo

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Originally Posted by BoxcarHobo

What?:-?

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05-04-2016 , 03:57 PM

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yo_yo

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Originally Posted by DoGGz

Looks like a perfect time to fix the BIG structure before the B55 declines further.

Finally

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05-04-2016 , 03:58 PM

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Karedog

newbie

Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 18

lolol same crap happening with 7$ and 11$ freezeouts. calling them "new" tournaments to attrack players? this site became an absolute joke. at least have the decency to call them turbos, because if you dont youre trying to trick the customers into playing your worthless "new" tournaments. im so done with this site. theres better options out there for micro-low players. I can get used to crappy software on other sites, but not gonna put up with these terrible payouts and horrendous structures

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05-04-2016 , 04:18 PM

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BMakk

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Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 143

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Originally Posted by BMakk

Pretty obvious what is happening. NLHE vanilla is slowly getting the same treatment the cubed and rebuy tournament got two years ago.

Remember the 55r? 55c, 33q, 109q? The gtd got cut until nobody wanted to register those tournaments. Those tournaments died. Pokerstars rep told us that the rebuy format was dying and the cubed and quad format were suffering. Now the 55r and 22r has magically reappear when the rebuy and addon are raked.

Now it's the vanilla's turn. Every tournament now is a turbo. The only difference is that while people are registering, the regular tournaments now are...regular.

Consider this, the Sunday marathon yesterday lasted 9 hours and 15 minutes with 1.420 runners. Remember, the late registration is three hours. How is that a slow structure? The sunday kickoff had 1.461 runners and it lasted 9 hours and 23 minute. Big 27 yesterday? 1.617 runners and 8 hours and 20 minutes. Big 44? 1.894 runners, 8 hours and 15 minutes.

The bounty builders are the same but the nature of it's format is more eliminations and higher average stack. The play is better. More and more players are going to register the bounty builders and skip the bigs. There is a KO poker tab at the top for crying out loud.

And the Pokerstars rep will say that people are moving away from vanilla.

Sad sad times.

God I missed the bigger tourneys yesterday.

This is the reason B55 has lower GTD. No need to be Nostradamus to see that if we are lucky, the GTD will be 40k late July.

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05-04-2016 , 06:17 PM

#3743

FarseerFinland

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Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 1,693

I think that at least by now Monday and Friday 320$ O8 popularity has shown that there's demand for high-end O8 events. Please, bring back at least few of those weekend tournaments that were removed.

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05-04-2016 , 06:54 PM

#3744

dipandglide

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Maybe they'll start banning winners like sports books do.

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05-04-2016 , 07:46 PM

#3745

anthonybond2

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Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 49

Bring back 10 min blinds. these 8 min blind turbos are no fun at all.

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05-04-2016 , 08:11 PM

#3746

Aek203

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Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 297

It will be interesting to see what happens when the Sunday Million can't make the guarantee. It's getting close now. They'll probably change it to a re-entry. It will be a watershed moment in the history of Stars. Online poker is clearly losing its appeal but it's crazy how Amaya are killing their golden goose.

To change the opinion of your most loyal customers from unconditional love to outright loathing is quite a feat. It's only taken about 12 months, but they've managed it.

I wouldn't be surprised if the fall of Stars is cited in business studies courses at universities a few years down the line.

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05-04-2016 , 08:33 PM

#3747

BMakk

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 143

To expand from my last post.

Big 55 recent days

70k gtd

26.4.2016 $77.3k
27.4.2016 $72k
28.4.2016 $74.8k
29.4.2016 $72k
30.4.2016 $75k
1.5.2016 Sunday
2.5.2016 OVERLAY, 101 people short
Gtd lowered to $65k gtd
3.5.2016 $72.2k
Gtd lowered to $60k gtd
4.5.2016 $72.8k
Gtd will be $65k tomorrow.

This is the flagship of daily MTT's. Going down the drain. How about protecting it with more sats, announcements, fliers etc? LOL why am I even asking.

At least, Luke wasn't lying when he said adjusting the guarantees are the top priority.

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05-04-2016 , 09:32 PM

#3748

squire1888

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Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 1,683

the b55 is the daily flagship agree ^^ its what i 1 tabled when i was a rec fish just starting out, as it had med buy in and good money uptop. its what i grind when i became serious for same reasons, and added bonus had a good struc, sundays it was the best value MTT about for low/mid grinders, now its a ****ing crapshoot with 10k ftw lol sort it out luke please for the love of fake allah

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05-04-2016 , 10:03 PM

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wrsport1015

adept

Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 736

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Originally Posted by Re8uZ

@luke
U CANT FIX GUARANTEES WITHOUT FIXING STRUCTURE FIRST (BLINDS + PAYOUTS)
Lots of players arent playing because structure sucks, and thays why u cand get real guaranties

I repeat U CANT FIX GUARANTIES WITHOUT FIXING THE STRUCTURES FIRST

+100000000

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05-04-2016 , 11:00 PM

#3750

GTXR1

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 227

Please bring back the Omaha Hi/Lo Weekly tournaments!

In the following model the $215s are moved towards peak time which should significantly increase entries. Further they now start simultaneously with their little $82 sisters, very much like the SCOOP-L/-H scheme which we all know and love.

After all the mostly negative feedback of all O8 being 6-max I recommend making them 8-max as a compromise.

Sa 13:30 (ET) $215 Weekly-H PLO8, $10K Gtd
Sa 13:30 (ET) $82 Weekly-L PLO8, $8K Gtd

Su 13:00 (ET) $215 Weekly-H NLO8, $12K Gtd
Su 13:00 (ET) $82 Weekly-L NLO8, $10K Gtd

Su 14:30 (ET) $215 Weekly-H FLO8, $8K Gtd
Su 14:30 (ET) $82 Weekly-L FLO8, $4K Gtd

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