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04-29-2016 , 07:18 PM
I presume its been mentioned a million times in the walls of text already typed itt but the payout thing is a poker stars bottom line decision not a whats-best-for-the-game/customers decision so i doubt its going to be changed.

Same as the million turbos.

This isn't the same company that you were loyal to all these years, whether Stars are right and their liquidity is such that their monopoly is untouchable or not has yet to be seen if it is gg poker if it isnt gg pokerstars/hello party.
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04-29-2016 , 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by KidFernandes
Hey Luke, I'd like to offer a rec perspective on here, that may (or may not) be different from the usual 2+2 banter...
Snipped the above quote short so as to not quote a giant post, but I agree with just about all of it (parts I don't agree with are mostly because I don't play the format (satellites)).
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04-29-2016 , 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DoGGz
Have you considered that maybe he knows but cannot publicly say? Maybe it's coming but he cannot say until it's launched?
Maybe it's coming? After recent structure changes? After his conviction shortening the tournaments after being a professional turning a recreational player?

You must see that this looks like a big big lie on his behalf.
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04-29-2016 , 08:11 PM


This is a big problem. Late reg is two hours and it's already bubble time.
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04-29-2016 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by hapunkt
Hey Luke, as you said you read all the posts, here is another list of a micro grinder (CET time) who misses a lot of the reg-speed Smallstakes and Turbo Micros in his schedules. This is something apart from the structures/payouts that decreased the overall playing experience for a lot of people both recs + regs.

Please bring back some of these or similar:

1.35 KO Turbo
2.75 KO Turbo
0.82 Turbo
13.50 KO Turbo

2.20 FO
3.30 FO
5.50 FO (+1R1A +2R1A)
8.80 FO
11 FO

Can you write a sentence 'bout why these all have been removed. All of these had decent numbers (as I can say for CET daytime) almost all the time and they overlayed close to zero times. I get it that you wanted to decrease the overall ammount of MTTs, but imo it makes absolut no sense to remove obviously popular torunaments, and we are talking about ~50 MTTs a day (thats a guess).
Cheers for reading.
These games have been removed at peak hours cutting down tables for me.
Pokerstars please bring these back.
I'm certain recreational players and regs loved 1R1A+ 2R1A(including sundays)
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04-29-2016 , 09:07 PM
Luke, could you please let us know when you have time to make adjustments to the non-HE schedule.
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04-29-2016 , 09:50 PM


Can a micro bounty builder (<$4) be added between 18:30 and 20:30 ET? From 17:30 to 20:30 there are 2 mid stakes and a high stakes BB, while from 11:30 to 14:30 there are 4 micro stakes games (one an hour). I was initially going to suggest switching one of the earlier micros with one of the later mids, but if there can be two BBs at a time earlier in the day (micro + mid/high), can we get the same sort of thing between 18:30 and 20:30?
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04-30-2016 , 01:39 AM
Why did you remove all of the mixed game daily $27 tournaments?

Bring them back.
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04-30-2016 , 03:46 AM
I don't get why they really just fill the schedule with bounty builders and removed the normal freezeouts

Seriously who is gonna prefer playing the 3.30 bounty builder with 8k people and 8k gtd with 1k for first that takes 9 hours with a bad structure when you can play the 5.50 jab on party 10k gtd, 12 minute levels with the winner getting 1.6k.

Bring back low stakes freezeouts with decent blind levels!
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04-30-2016 , 03:47 AM
Having finally played the new schedule some thoughts. I tried out a bit of everything to see what I liked and didn't

1. Well done on the hots I don't normally play them. The structures were really good it moved at a good pace and still had some play deep. I will certainly be adding every hot now it's not a total crapshoot.

2. Zoom tournaments just don't work well.
I played the fast forward and regretted it massively after regging. I am sure lots of others feel the same way. The schedule has lots of zoom in it as well and seems a waste.

3. N stack tournaments not sure about these but again doesn't seem a popular format and I am sure the name confuses rec players. Also 8 min blinds on those 6 max N stack is very turbo ish not much fun

4. Somewhere I read about cubed tournaments being a dying format (which I don't agree with think they have a place). All cubes are gone and we have formats that have never been alive such as zoom/n stack/ante up/time bomb.
Doesn't make sense to keep pushing these formats which are not working.

5. 11r 6 max rebuys are fun little tournaments again a little quick imo up to the end of the rebuy period. I assume it's designed this way to get more rebuys in though

6. Bounty builders I am not sure if the levels were shortened more but 7 mins is a touch too short to start. Make it 8 mins and will be perfect. They play a bit deeper than bigs on average due to loose play.

7. Bigs it's been hammered to death but it's too quick late. Won't go over what everyone else has said but up to end of late reg it's good/fine if late reg was 2 hrs. Was quite alot of fun having so many bigs to play

8. Daily specials - either add levels or again make the variable increase really late on as players need some room

Overall actually the schedule is quite alot of fun. The only thing really missing is a bunch of normal freezeouts to add outside the bigs.

Genuinely if you dumped some of the zoom/n stack stuff and replaced with vanilla FO would be great. I don't think they will ever really take off as a format.

I don't play micro/lower stuff or mixed games but there seems to be alot more work to do there. Seems the micro schedule is littered with turbos and time bombs those guys are really important and need stuff to play as well.
Often gets overlooked here since most 2+2 ers are regs and don't play micros.

With those tweaks it is a fun exciting schedule with so much good stuff/fun stuff to play.
The issue with the schedule at the moment it seems you're trying to shoehorn everyone into playing bigs/psko + then the bigs structure issue.
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04-30-2016 , 08:24 AM
ONE splash satellite to SKO? Is it some kind of a joke? Both 2x and 3x were very popular every saturday giving a real opportunity for low stakes players to participate in saturday major. Why have you removed them?
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04-30-2016 , 10:40 AM
I would like to see more FO tournaments in the $5-15 range with 8/10 min blinds increase. Small guaranteed or nothing, I'm sick of > 3000 plying fields.

Cap (360/500/1000) were damn nice as well
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04-30-2016 , 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by BMakk


This is a big problem. Late reg is two hours and it's already bubble time.
This.

Same thing happened in the tournament couple days before.
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04-30-2016 , 11:56 AM
The difference in FT avg in the bigs don't mean a thing. It's basically a flipfest and if the shorter stacks lose a few flips in a row the average stack will quickly go up to lets say 30-40bb. However, with this new structure the avg stack will be around 20bb shortly after that. Adding 1 minute to levels is not going to change a thing, as that's maybe 1 hand extra per level? We need more levels, not longer per se, so the blind increases won't be too big.
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04-30-2016 , 12:04 PM
why is the "bigger" and "hotter" turneys gone?
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04-30-2016 , 12:17 PM
Because they won't allow Luke to keep them
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04-30-2016 , 01:00 PM
so simple, and so true

Last edited by Contemplater; 04-30-2016 at 01:01 PM. Reason: greed (bigger and hotter gave more egde)
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04-30-2016 , 01:01 PM
Getting slightly frustrated with the significantly reduced satellite options available. I used to have multiple viable shots to qualify as a lower stake player to higher stake options and now I have less opportunities to do so. Could you please add more satellites to hots/bigs/blue majors? Turbo deeps would be preferable but anything non-hyper with a guarantee would work great.
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04-30-2016 , 01:17 PM
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04-30-2016 , 02:53 PM
big -1 for weekly 6max to be psko and turbish structure.

Was always a great mtt
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04-30-2016 , 02:59 PM
if you want to late reg mid-high stakes schedule at 9pm cet (kinda std) you can reg

55r (huge rake, small eggy field)
109 bounty builder (75% bounty? v high effective rake)
320 sko (great mtt!)
hot 55 (45 mins into a turbo, prob skip)
320 6max (v reggy)
big 55 (just starting)

If you want to reg up the next hour or so

hot 109 (good mtt even if turbo)
44 psko (no ty)
55 6max hyper (lol rake)

and nothing else...

so from 7pm-10pm cet, big peak time when people come in to reg often, especially in summer you really have such a poor Saturday offering.

If you want to reg a few lower things then your options are 27kos or 27 hypers.


Saturday should be a day we all dying to play, the offering here is very weak imo.

Move weekender 1 hour late and sko 1 hour later imo.
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04-30-2016 , 04:02 PM
gonna start skipping saturdays if there are no changes.. You replace Saturday weekly 6 m that was an amazing tourney with a saturday shuffle 8 min blinds tourney? The structure in the 320 SKO is also v bad now...
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04-30-2016 , 04:04 PM
the 320 6 max is one of the few tourneys that still has that awesome structure that makes me really excited to sit down and play
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04-30-2016 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by andrebnu
I would like to see more FO tournaments in the $5-15 range with 8/10 min blinds increase. Small guaranteed or nothing, I'm sick of > 3000 plying fields.

Cap (360/500/1000) were damn nice as well
+1 freezeouts between the $5-33 are severely lacking
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04-30-2016 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
Saturday should be a day we all dying to play, the offering here is very weak imo.
I agree. Saturday needs some attention.
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