Where is Luke?? I am expecting him to tell me wtf is what i see on pokerstars...
this is Fouls Day?:-?

Yea, I put a lot of time into the schedule. I can't speak for anyone else but many of our good ideas made the final draft. The schedule is way better because of the collaboration.

The structures? yea I looks like they need tweeks.

The new structure of bigs and bounty builders is abosutely awful and a joke. There were already so many turbos in the schedule, but at least we had the 'bigs' to play some poker.
The 5k starting stack is not fooling anyone.
Last 3 tables on 'bigs', you would find an average stack of 40bb, now its 21.
I am waiting to see the late stages of million and warmup, betting the stacks will look like a hot.
These changes are completely destroying the game. Variance in the MTTs was already huge. Now it's getting to the point where skill will have a insignificant effect to the results. From now on, we will have no legit answer to all those ignorant people who were telling us professionals that we are gamblers.
You want to attract more recreational players. Just add more tournaments. Leave the bigs and builders and the few normal/slow stuff you had be, for Pete's sake. Add more tournaments (fast as you want them). People will play them as well. You know we will play them. No need to make everything a turbo.
I am sure that >90% of regular players are devastated by these changes, as am I.
I am also positive that you can make more money and attract rec players without hurting the game so much (bigs, builders etc).
I would think that you want your high volume players to be at least as satisfied as the recreational players.
And with these changes, we are anything BUT.

Revert Bigs and Bounty builders back.

the six maxes are great! maybe spread them out a bit

now when you click turbo tab all bigs and bounty builders are there

goodjob with schedule!

And I guarantee you every solid suggestion that's been made in this thread since the start of the year has been considered. A bunch of the best ideas people offered made their way into the schedule. And Luke already said that he'd be making adjustments as the first weeks of the new schedule play out.

If there's time zones that you think are lacking games or tournaments you wish existed but do not, please, go ahead and offer up your suggestion.

How much were the structures discussed in the meeting doggz

Even the "reg speeds" have 8 mom clock with 3k start stack. Turbostars

All tournaments are there

I have a question for you...where are all the tournaments? And this is what people wants? Really?

Doggz no one is buying your **** really, are you paid too?

to be fair, they have the 'bigs' structure now, so they pbb play out equally deep, or even deeper towards the end I'd imagine.

It's really just the bigs that need a good fixing. One could argue the hots need one too, but hey it's still a turbo and I see the avg is usually hovering around 15/20bb's today, so that seems allright. In fact, the other turbo's (who have the old bigs structure with the inbetween levels) seems to play out a little bit deeper now.

I will freely admit my 1st session is about to start so I'll update but I fear the above will reflect my thoughts exactly. It's a great post.

C'mon Stars !!! Fix the darn STRUCTURES !!!

Hey, I always loved grinding day in day out, but losing more and more motivation with how things are changing. The playing experience from my own perspective has gone down a ton compared to when I started a few years ago. Used to be so excited to wake up, have some coffee and jump in the games. Now some days I don’t even consider playing, because the schedule is poor, the structures are poor and everything has become somewhat of a crap shoot. Partypoker on the other hand have done a great job, great tournaments, amazing guarantees, enjoyable and very good structures. I am even super keen to play the 109s there because the playing experience is so good. They are really providing and caring about the players and trying to keep everyone happy. You are doing the opposite and I can speak for a lot of other people than just myself. You need to make better changes and fix this stuff.
If you look at the lower end of the schedule most of the tournaments are either ‘’time bombs‘’, hypers or some other ****. There are no regular freeze outs left. You are pretty much not giving that option to start from the bottom and reach for the stars anymore. How are people going to be able to grind up the stakes with the schedule you are offering the lowstakes guys? The answer is they will choose different sites because you don’t give them any other alternative.

I think the 8 minute levels are too fast.

What time and what tournament type is missing that you want more of. Please be more specific.

I can totally understand why other guys who helped don't want to talk about it publically.

4min blinds snuck that one in there WTF

This tread is officially useless

I understand very good the how brand loyalty works, but personally I will not be forced into playing lower EV and higher variance MTT's just to fulfill Pokerstars hidden agenda. I have some suggestions: More appealing tournaments in the 11$-33$ buying range (3-5$ rebuys, 13,5$ KOs, 11-33$ freezeouts, KOs NON-6MAX) and in the 21-23.00 EET timeframe.

We need more highstakes between h162 and b109

goes up to 5 min when 300/600 is reached, and you've got a double startstack now as well. get over it, that's not a significant difference, and pbb plays out equally deep, as I see reflected by the avg stack throughout all phases of the tournaments.

I understand that people are upset and all, but they really don't see things clearly it seems.

First and foremost what I gather from this thread

* Fix the bigs structures, I made a suggestion earlier which would work out fine imho
* Add some lowstakes regspeed tournaments again, the demand seems to be too low now for people who play up till 11$-15$. Bring back some of the 2r's - 3r's 8fo 11fo etc it seems.
* Fix non NLHE schedule, but I don't know **** about that.

First of all, what kind of "pro" are you talking about? I can't imagine you were a mtt pro.
Because in countries all over the world there is a fight to get poker legalized/classified as a skillgame and you are collaborating with amaya to do the opposite by making structures accros the board shallower and more subjective to variance, which is already huge in mtts. You are not only underestimating the intelligence of this community by doing so, but also you underestimate the pleasure recreationals have in deeper and slower structures. This will disappoint both groups and thus ruin your so called pokereconomy.

Second of all it is quite obvious that flatter payouts, shallower play, turbo alike structures and higher rake in rebuys and lower guarantees across the board, serve only 1 purpose and that is not the general pokereconomy but Amaya's. And that is to make deposits (from recreationals) last longer and to diminish edges from learning/pro players by making these changes.

Last I guess you made the changes so bad, to see how far you could go and then, when mass complaints arise,you could make it just a little better, so the complainers would be a little more happy and stopped complaining. And then you would still serve Amaya's purpose and achieve the goals acrross the boards, because we would be happy with some breadcrumbs without butter instead of no bread and butter anymore at all.

Former pokerpro? Call.

Not happy with these changes either but feel like you should at least know how wrong this is.

http://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/iweargoggles/

The hots are actually quite a bit slower than before due to smaller blind increases and larger starting stacks, please leave them as they are now, they play great!

Bigs need to be looked at as they are considerably faster than before and seem to be playing a bit short stacked a few hours in.

New schedule is great overall!

Is Party poker the clear no2 ? It would be very interesting to compare their traffic last week with the one of the next two weeks, to see if more players (stars players) do join them.

good post, I agree