Just doing my part and telling you that I don't like the new structure in the Bigs, please fix asap.

Please just revert the bigs and bounty builders to their old structures asap. Having 5k starting stacks makes a lot less difference than you seem to think compared to totally gutting the structures.

Close this thread already! It serves no purpose. Its getting really pathetic at this point. You are trying to get the team doctor to making gameplan changes, at best.

The beauty of the 'bigs' were that if you could build a stack post bubble you had a great chance of going deep given the softness of the fields (low-med stakes) and structure. Now? **** it lets flip.

The new structure of bigs and bounty builders is abosutely awful and a joke. There were already so many turbos in the schedule, but at least we had the 'bigs' to play some poker.
The 5k starting stack is not fooling anyone.
Last 3 tables on 'bigs', you would find an average stack of 40bb, now its 21.
I am waiting to see the late stages of million and warmup, betting the stacks will look like a hot.
These changes are completely destroying the game. Variance in the MTTs was already huge. Now it's getting to the point where skill will have a insignificant effect to the results. From now on, we will have no legit answer to all those ignorant people who were telling us professionals that we are gamblers.
You want to attract more recreational players. Just add more tournaments. Leave the bigs and builders and the few normal/slow stuff you had be, for Pete's sake. Add more tournaments (fast as you want them). People will play them as well. You know we will play them. No need to make everything a turbo.
I am sure that >90% of regular players are devastated by these changes, as am I.
I am also positive that you can make more money and attract rec players without hurting the game so much (bigs, builders etc).
I would think that you want your high volume players to be at least as satisfied as the recreational players.
And with these changes, we are anything BUT.

Revert Bigs and Bounty builders back.

Pokerfan89Gr

Yes, we get that. What I'm unhappy about is this new schedule wrapped around in sugar and candy, telling us about all the new things and completely skipping over the real reason about those changes. The understanding and communication between us regs and their representitves are IMO crucial and there has to be some trust.

Remember a few weeks ago when the new payout system was implementing? It was taken for a test drive for a few days/weeks and suddenly: voila! Luke answered about those things at first, but not a word since. No introduction for the change. Nothing.

If Luke wants to have open communication with us about new things, it's better to tell us straight up. He's acting like the king of the hill when he's actually hurting this community. We aren't 5 year old with high hopes for a great birthday gift, we are grownups providing for our self and our 5 year old.

Current BB average is 40bb in big 162, 4 remaining

Current BB average is 27bb in big 16.5, 8 remaining

i dont get it.

Almost all tourneys are turbos now. Not good. Not good at all.

I can hardly find any 10 minute level tourneys in the lobby at all.

Change this Stars!

big 162 structure is better right?

Been saying that since before new schedule.



Also I like the 10K starting chips in Monday 6max for an $11 trny lol

So, I've been asking for a larger Heads-Up tournament on Saturdays for over a year now and I take a look at the schedule to see that there's now one... but then I try to scroll down to Sunday's Weekly $215 and it's gone!? You've been trying to phase it out by sporadically destroying the guarantee for 9 months, but what the actual ****.

Bring it back Luke.

Just realize there aren't $2+R anymore. Used to play three of them (plus an action hour). Micro grinders want more than just splash (3x) MTTs.

And I try a couple of hots today, maybe is because I'm not used to them, but 4 minutes is way too hast.

When i took a quick first look at the schedule i said ok, it looks fun! Today i played my first session and every tournament that opened up was a surprise!

Bigs and Bounty Builders are essentially turbos, hots are super turbos and the regular tournaments nowhere to be found.

And this thing with the 5k stacks? It is like giving a lollipop to your 8-year old son, who asks for a big boat. Do you think we are indeed that dumb? Change the schedule as much as you want.

BUT DO NOT CHANGE THE STRUCTURES!!!

And bring it back with its structure.

This.

Joke Stars now.

I've got nothing that I enjoy playing now. I've been looking for hours to find a good, reg speed tournament and none. 5k chips are pointless, everyone in the bounties are going all in anyway.

Change it back or I will take my money elsewhere, as I'm sure others will.

Starting with 21:00 there is virtually nothing to play in the 11-33$ range: Big 11, 16,5$ 6max, 33$ Bounty builder, 22$ Mini Monday 6max, and 33$ PSKO 6max. Considering I don't usually play 6 max, I have only two options in the 21:00-23:00 EET timeframe: the Big 11 and the 33$ Bounty builder. Before I had Big 11, 5$ 1R1A, 13,5$ KO, 3,3$ Rebuy, 11$ Rebuy and the 11$ 20K Gtd freezeout.
Also, what happened with the 27 Knockouts? They were Turbo and always met the guarantee, why didn't you keep them? The 11$ freezeouts and deep stack(which was full of recs)? The 13,5$ KO's, very good tourneys? The 2$ rebuy in the afternoon? The 1r1adonn's? Before I even start talking about the structure I should have some options to play.

Luke we had one PKO 6 max slow and you made it turbo, are you ****** kidding me?
I`m talking about the 22$ PKO 6max which starts 15 minutes before the Big11.

having seen the structures implemented, they are an absolute joke. i can only imagine what the bigs would have been like BEFORE they were tweaked a day ago for launch. there are two main things here for me.

1. you need fix the structure of many "regular speed" tournaments to allow more play deep.

if people want to play a turbo, they will reg a turbo. people reg regular speed tournaments because want to play a slower structure and have set aside the time to do so.

2. you need to add more reg speed tournaments.

i look in the lobby and all i see is a turbo/hyper turbo bonanza. you can still have fast speed tournaments with a good mix of regular speed ones. right now the ratio is way out of whack.

remember that you can have a diverse lobby and give players the choice. screw the high guarantees. if people like the tournament you will see it grow and can adjust guarantees appropriately.

additionally, i look now and see that even many turbos have a whacked out 4 min blind structure. 5 MINUTE LEVELS IS FAST ENOUGH FOR A TURBO. CHRIST!!!

if things don't change around here, and quickly, i'll be moving my action to competitors.

yeah but don't neglect the fact that a lot of recreational players want to play some poker too, from normal to even deep slow structures.

so many times i'm at a turbo and someone is complaining "wtf, what is this, bingo poker" lol.

take the two extreme type of players.
the one that plays super tight and will whine his AA broke from a 64s and the super lag that is eager to bluff at any given chance.
the tight one will feel the pressure faster to gamble with a less premium hand or will blind out and the lag won't have much room for his bluffs since stacks will be so shallow.
such enjoyment for both.

i'm not saying turbos are bad, i love them, but you can't make your flagship like the bigs turbos. keep some normal speed and deep structures around.

ps. i once got into a live event qualifier at some smaller site, which was labelled as normal speed with 8' levels. in reality the blinds got so big so fast that it played more like an hyper. never regged that thing again.
poker players aren't bingo players, even new players, they will feel ripped off of their buck. and then bye bye.

Big 16,50. Last 4 players. Average just under 20BB. GG stars

Make all O8 8-max except of hypers!

+1 to changing structures of bigs, please revert back to old one, new tourneys are great just too fast! Show us an ounce of respect after all the rake additions

Finished my first session since the changes an can say I will not being playing on stars again till all the big structures are fixed an there is more reg speed mtts . What a job you have done at butchering an already good schedule

One more thing I don't get.

Why some people suggest to make lower Bigs faster?

Where's the bottom line? What Bigs should be fast and what should not?
Why do you think players who play Big $4.40 – Big $16.50 are worse than Big $22 - Big $109 regs?

I mean, there's huge demand throught low-stakes for — every word is essential — well-structured non-gimmick poker tournaments.
Imagine, there's still a lot of guys, who just love to play god damn poker, not a roulette.

What's your reason behind making low-stakes Bigs faster?
Why do you suggest that?

Sure, I remember Luke's argument of "talking a lot with recs and blah blah blah".
However, believe me or not, softest fields among the old schedule were — surprise! — in DeepStacks with 15-20 minute levels.

I swear, I never met such an amount of genuine recreationals enywhere else.
They just saw DNegs played WSOP at are honestly willing to get through this experience.

From now Stars have killed the entire regular schedule.
And there's long chance they will revive it.

Please, leave us well-structured Bigs as a dying wish.

too much 6 max at peak times