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02-27-2016 , 10:10 AM
In actually used to like the cap games like I know people will hate on me but the 27.50 360 cap I miss what about pko 6 max mtts 360 cap? Would be a cool addition
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02-27-2016 , 10:12 AM
And Luke the payouts don't need changing, they need boosting not decreasing (more top heavy) we ain't called gamblers for nothing
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02-27-2016 , 10:22 AM
Can we see $27 sat to sunday million 10th anniversary? I don't want to grind the $5.50 but I'd do the $27 ones... Especially on weekends.

I'd also like to see $27 or $82 ticket tournaments like full tilt used to have where you could buy in (maybe same buy in as steps sng) and winners got tournament tickets. I find steps sng don't run often enough when I'm online during the week.

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02-27-2016 , 11:11 AM
Agree that gap between 1st and 9th should be closed, primarily by giving more to the bottom end of final tables. Finishing 9th has always been underwhelming, and I feel like there should be a bigger reward for reaching any ft. I also think a mincash should be more (it seems they do under the new payout structure), to give any rec that cashes more of a feeling of accomplishment. I know from a few recs that mincashing usually leaves them with a sour feeling, not even doubling their buyin after a long stride to reach the money.

I think the only reasonable way to accomplish this is to pay out less places, not more. I understand why PS is doing this, but you have to consider the mental effect it has on recs' willingness to enter the MTT in the first place.
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02-27-2016 , 11:30 AM
you really think this is a clever idea?
especially recs reg tourneys because of first place prizes...when you decrease first place, also number of entrants will go down...this would be another (of couple) steps in the wrong direction!
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02-27-2016 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by travisohc
you really think this is a clever idea?
especially recs reg tourneys because of first place prizes...when you decrease first place, also number of entrants will go down...this would be another (of couple) steps in the wrong direction!
I'd argue regulars register for the top prize... Rec's can enjoy a feeling of success by cashing in or winning some decent cash. At least I did when I first started playing... I did it for fun knowing I wouldn't win first but spent some time having fun and hopefully winning a little money.

I do agree the bottom half of the final table should get more.
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02-27-2016 , 12:40 PM
still don't understand why bigs or at least biggers don't have 5k starting stack. nobrainer imo
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02-27-2016 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by buffyslayer1
I was asking what data stars was using to trial a different structure. Because on the surface at least there doesn't seem to be any reason for the change. It's not something I have ever heard people ask for either


Also based on what happened at party when they made a big % of the field getting paid. It would seem that lots of recs and regs alike disliked it because they ran away in droves.
Yes, there is nothing wrong with your post and I don't really want to argue with you, I just want to be clear that people like you don't represent the entire poker community. There are lots of people who consider a min-cash better than losing...it reduces variance somewhat and a small win keeps people coming back.

Lets be honest shall we? Most of the people here care zero for other players or for recs. You only care about yourselves. Everything you say is slanted toward making it better for yourselves and your bottom line whereas PokerStars is trying to look at the long term...they're trying to find a way to grow and continue to do business in a shrinking market.

I have a few friends who used to play MTTs on Stars and all of them have stopped playing. The single biggest reason they stopped was they never win. Perhaps if these people min-cashed occasionally they would stick around?
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02-27-2016 , 04:10 PM
regarding the monthly VIP tourney, could you please open the registration a lot earlier? for instance, like a week earlier? and the late registration period, make it longer than 10minutes, for like 30minutes or an hour? that narrow registration window is very inconvenient.

I forgot to register for it and then found out it was running for already 40minutes, registration closed.
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02-27-2016 , 09:16 PM
I also loved the cap tournaments. I only ever played the $0.55 to $3.30, but they were always enjoyable (and very profitable).
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02-27-2016 , 09:34 PM
Luke please get rid of the bounty tournaments that are more than 50% of the bounty. The $25 towards the prizepool $109 bounty builder with a $9 rake is just absurd.
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02-27-2016 , 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CaliStyle
Luke please get rid of the bounty tournaments that are more than 50% of the bounty. The $25 towards the prizepool $109 bounty builder with a $9 rake is just absurd.
+1. PSKO at 50/50 is just about tolerable. UKO deserves an expletive discription beyond my vocabulary.
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02-27-2016 , 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ChoakMyDee
Lets be honest shall we? Most of the people here care zero for other players or for recs. You only care about yourselves. Everything you say is slanted toward making it better for yourselves and your bottom line whereas PokerStars is trying to look at the long term...they're trying to find a way to grow and continue to do business in a shrinking market.
False. PS also only cares about their bottom line. In fact, regs might care more about the longterm of the game than PS does.
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02-27-2016 , 10:44 PM
Hey Luke,

+1 to change 75% psko into regular psko on saturdays. The regular PSKO has always been popular, no need to mix it up on saturdays, many people including myself skip all PSKO on saturdays because of the huge rake and also boring to play tournaments where knockouts means significantly more than the actual tournament.

I really hope we can expect to see some nice red additions in the new schedule for HS players. Big 215 has been mentioned many times. Seems like a good time to introduce it.

5k startstack in the bigs is a nobrainer aswell.

When can we expect to see the new schedule, before or after scoop? (Would obviously be smart to have it before Scoop so all those players during scoop knows that you have some decent tourneys in the schedule outside of the series aswell)

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02-27-2016 , 10:59 PM
Problem with changing the 75% PKOs is that they are popular and field sizes get a big bump on Saturday.

If there was a 100% PKO tournament with no prizepool, what would be the acceptable rake?

In other words, what do we as MTTc think acceptable rake for the bounty portion of a progressive is?
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02-27-2016 , 11:08 PM
i d certainly play a 208+7 100% psko
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02-28-2016 , 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by DoGGz
Problem with changing the 75% PKOs is that they are popular and field sizes get a big bump on Saturday.
I think the question should be 'Are they more popular because of the 75% or despite the 75% on Saturdays' I know I skip them on Saturday because of the 75% bounty.
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02-28-2016 , 08:39 AM
I skip most Saturdays too so makes sense that the participants will likely go up if changed to 50 but not sure how many more recs it would put off?
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02-28-2016 , 09:26 AM
i think there's something wrong again with the Phase 2
It shows 1287 paid when there are only ~750ish in Phase 2 atm
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02-28-2016 , 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by TAKE MANEY
i think there's something wrong again with the Phase 2
It shows 1287 paid when there are only ~750ish in Phase 2 atm
Phases 1 are not over
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02-28-2016 , 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by DoGGz
Problem with changing the 75% PKOs is that they are popular and field sizes get a big bump on Saturday.

If there was a 100% PKO tournament with no prizepool, what would be the acceptable rake?

In other words, what do we as MTTc think acceptable rake for the bounty portion of a progressive is?
doubt Stars GAF what anyone here is prepared to pay; there are $0.68+$0.68+$0.14 36-man hyper KOs running nowadays and the micro players ****ing love them so the rake ain't going down any time soon.
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02-28-2016 , 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by TAKE MANEY
i think there's something wrong again with the Phase 2
It shows 1287 paid when there are only ~750ish in Phase 2 atm
Based on what happened last week, this should still work. The way Phase behaves is that if the final Phase is about to start and the number of places paid is greater than the number of players in the final Phase, it will work backwards through the pay table until it finds a line in which number of places paid is less than the number of players in the tournament.

Regardless, I've altered this pay table in case something unusual has happened on the server side since last week. It looks odd, but I believe it should cover all scenarios. I'll be monitoring the tournament a bit later on.
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02-28-2016 , 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by LostOstrich
doubt Stars GAF what anyone here is prepared to pay; there are $0.68+$0.68+$0.14 36-man hyper KOs running nowadays and the micro players ****ing love them so the rake ain't going down any time soon.
That's not really the point. We keep saying that the rake in PKO, especially higher percents, is unfair without really stating what would be fair.

There are people actively skipping these events, so what would it take to get them to play?
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02-28-2016 , 05:01 PM
Just played a 15 minute timebomb. Only got 4 or 5 hands in the final level due to the stalling. Was not enjoyable.
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02-28-2016 , 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by krazykarter
Just played a 15 minute timebomb. Only got 4 or 5 hands in the final level due to the stalling. Was not enjoyable.
Mixing challenges with "cash in one MTT" and 15 min time tournaments might have something to do with this.
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