http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...posed-1175764/

I would guess not much, especially since other/s have been around longer than myself, but was wondering if I'd get any support? If so, I'd apply since this is something I'd like to do. I have played various formats and have logged in a lifetime sample of a little over 20,000. I've also played a decent amount of volume for the other major formats, MTTs and Cash, and whilst a candidate "specialises" in one particular format (SNGs) I think a player who has general knowledge of the others would have a general advantage..

A little general info about myself

I have played different formats and buy-ins of SNGs (anywhere from micros to high, and both STT and MTT-SNGS) so I would be fair as a representative in the sense that I wouldn't just support the games I play/plan to play myself. This may seem like a lame thing to add to some of you, but in school I was involved in various volunteer organisations and many of them required us to learn about being good mediators, listening to the different opinions of everyone, considering all aspects etc, without being bias. I believe I'd do a good job at taking into consideration the opinions and information from all players (of differing average buy-in levels, reputation on 2p2, volume/profitability, etc etc). I'm also pretty active in the community in general.

So currently we have 3 candidates:

Simpledude16

Gramps

OMGGlayDol

Anybody else?

Yeah, i think there should be greate a seperate thread for this. First 3 post could be the guys just writing there positions and what they tend to push for!

Then add a poll to the thread and lets see whos picked?

I mean I think it's pretty difficult to explain completely what I/we plan to push for, a major reason being that imo the candidate mostly should be putting forward ideas/suggestions that are from the community, since my understanding is that each rep for each format is supposed to literally "represent" the players. Obviously the reps themselves can have their own suggestions and opinions already, but I think it's most important to actually listen to, consider and take action with what everyone else thinks when going to the meeting.

I didn't read the entire massive threads about the cash game changes (there was a pretty important/significant change in cash game rake recently which prompted outcry for those of you who don't know - Stars then agreed to take on reps from NLHE/FLHE/PLO to discuss and change the changes etc as far as I understand) and many players even after the new changes basically complained that the reps didn't actually take into consideration what they had to say, or that they didn't know about the reps so didn't get a chance to put forward their ideas/opinions. In general, I think this is important and whoever is picked, I hope that as many people as possible can be aware of the fact that Stars is considering/re-considering previous/current/future changes, and if they have opinions/comments to come forward. I'm not saying I'd be the only one to do this, and no matter who is picked I hope that this can be considered.

Finally, I think a major thing to consider is that as far as I understand, Stars plans to show a lot of data and statistics about the site, traffic, coverage, etc to the reps in an aid to informed decision making, and without seeing this relevant data, it can be hard to decide what is actually right/fair/best in general.

These things are just in general and I'm just explaining why it will be hard to be specific with what any of us are pushing for, but if people want this I would have a few specific things in mind personally that I'd be putting forward. That being said, these things would also be my suggestions to whoever the rep is to bring forward to the meeting, if it's not me

MTTs and Cash are going to have their own reps. I guess knowledge of other disciplines isnt a bad thing, but i for one want someone that is solely interested in improving SNGs. When it comes to making improvements, especially in terms of rake and bonuses, Stars is working with a finite amount of money. In theory any allowances cash or MTTs get will come at the expense of SNGs. As well as any changes made to improve cash and MTTs to make them more attractive to rec players will come at the expense of SNG traffic.

I would primarily go to discuss the issues relating to SNGs, however I just said that knowing a bit about other formats would be useful in general, like you implied. I am not looking to improve Cash or MTTs (not saying I wouldn't want them to get better). For example, things about the VIP rewards program, i.e. SNE especially relating opinions of players like myself who don't exclusively play SNGs, but primarily play SNGs (and some MTTs/Cash) would make more sense in my perspective than someone who 'only' knows SNGs imo.

This post for a bit more detail if anyone is interested.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...7&postcount=49

Not sure who I'm going to vote yet if we're really going to have a vote, but I like Gramps ideas, cleaning up SNG lobby and some more SNG promos should be things we can get and that are good/necessary. I however think that a rake reduction should be discussed. I know that if we're honest that there is a very small% we're actually going to get it, but imo a rake reduction would be a good thing for the health of the SNG ecosystem as well, which should benefit Stars.

We're still on the same rake % plan as a lot of years ago and games simply have gotten tougher in a sick way, and I think with the current rake levels fish are going busto pretty fast which is bad for us but for Stars as well.

(oh and obv just ask about free pizzas, can never hurt)

Bumping and unstickying. Please carry on discussion regarding SNG reps in this thread only. Other posts in other threads will be deleted or moved. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by bbfg View Post
some more SNG promos should be things we can get and that are good/necessary. I however think that a rake reduction should be discussed. I know that if we're honest that there is a very small% we're actually going to get it, but imo a rake reduction would be a good thing for the health of the SNG ecosystem as well, which should benefit Stars.

We're still on the same rake % plan as a lot of years ago and games simply have gotten tougher in a sick way, and I think with the current rake levels fish are going busto pretty fast which is bad for us but for Stars as well.

(oh and obv just ask about free pizzas, can never hurt)

+1
the rake increase in may 2011 was the biggest joke ever!!!!
from 15+1 to 13.89+1.11.

the rake % at 30$ is the same!!

rake at 3$ and 6$ was lower too before the changes. (3+0.25 + 6+0.5)

that should be discussed heavily. i dont care about lobby issues or some other gimmicks like additional colour features...

and at other sites you get insta a certain rake %. at stars you have to rake a ton, only to get 27% rb, which is low anyway.

sne requirements are insane.

years ago good rois were possible, now the 9man stt's are not playable. a 2% roi is a waste of time.

Did anyone contact atkinator if he was interested to apply for being a rep?

I know he went as a rep before, but I'd still love to see Hood go for this one as well.

Oh wow You made me O.P. I kinda feel special AMT, Thanks!

I am glad to see my voice heard and stars agreed to send someone for us sng guys.

I would love to go and be a rep and try to improve the state of sit n go's and fight the good fight! but I see some big names putting in their name so I don't think I will have much of a chance,lol.

Whoever goes 1st of all your welcome but seriously whoever goes if we can get results or good changes to the sng environment I am happy.

What are some of the issues going to be discussed with Stars? Obviously we need lower rake and more promotions towards SNGs. I may be interested, but even though Stars seems reasonable at times I don't see them changing much about SNGs other than adding additional hyper buy-ins.

here's a couple thing i would like to see addressed:

1. rake:

-what were the results of the rake changes last year? has traffic increased/decreased because of it? This is honestly the #1 question i would like answered, for all levels

-push for a standard across the board rake that is sustainable. IMO this means making a small reduction for every level, im not talking about going from 7% to 5%, but perhaps using the old 15+1 model and using that across the board, maybe we dont get it now, but at least put on the table

2. buyins

- are the current selections enough? what could be added/dropped to make the games better?

I think this means looking at all sngs (mtt, stt, hu, hypers) and looking at their data, winrates etc. For mtt sngs i think a 10rebuy-180 man could be considered, for stts im honestly not sure if there is enough levels right now but i dont have any real data to support that theory, i do think more levels might be a good thing, but possibly not.

3. steps:

this is kindof a small issue but one that really needs to be fixed imo:

-get rid of euro steps and start running the passport promotion year round so people can pick and choose what EPT/LAPT/WSOP etc events they want to go to. This doesnt mean they need to add money everytime someone wins a seat, just give the winner credit that can only be used for a live event package/s. This would increase traffic immensely at the steps sngs and would probably mean more qualifiers at their live events (win/win)

cant think of anything else right now, but whoever goes, i would really like to see them address these things for sure

I'm pretty sure the Entraction network have reduced sng rake by 50%.
It's a good time for stars to give us a 6-6.5 vpp multiplier,anybody agree?

Either up SNG multiplier or lower fullring. I know that just sounds like jealous hate but in the grand scheme of things any extra money given to FR players has to come from somewhere. Aside from that its messing up the ecosystem by having players play a certain discipline just because it pays more RB on the dollar.

The line theyve given before when this was raised was that FR had higher VPPs under the old system and so they have a better multiplier in the new system to stay consistent, but that is complete and utter bull****. Stars had no problem being inconsistent when it came to changing away from dealt, or raising the rake on SNGs. I want our rep to either get the multipliers evened out or get a damn good reason why they wont do this.

The buy in's part I have already asked about in the stt suggestion thread and to other stars reps on other forums with no answer so far, the jumps are a lil too much and I wish they never changed them and is one thing I also would like to see brought up.

As for lower rake, it is a good time to ask since entraction has lowered to 5 %.

These along with promotions and a revamped battle of the planets in some way is also I would bring up if I were the rep or want to see brought up by whoever goes.

I would also check on vpp multiplier and 27 man turbo's for mecastyles

bumping this because there seems there a poll in NVG and neither SD or Gramps is on it. Are you guys still interested in going? No offense to Claydoll or Awice but i was kinda hoping the sng rep would be someone who solely played sngs.

Eh looks like its too late. **** it im over this.

Somehow I couldn't find this thread before, this is obv much more suitable for my post (copy and pasted from the improvement thread)

"Just gonna make a post updating the April Isle of Man meeting for PokerStars.

Would appreciate any votes:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/36...hread-1179294/

I think myself and Awice are the only nominees who would represent SNGs so if you guys want the SNG community heard then I suggest you for at least one of us (You get up to 3 votes).

If anyone has any questions feel free to post in the Internet Poker thread, here or even PM me. I have posted a CV post as well as a few answers to questions already to give you a better idea about myself and my objectives. In short, if I am selected, I guarantee that I will take any and all suggestions/opinions/ideas from anyone seriously, regardless of life time profit, ABI, 2p2 post count etc. I would also push for what is best for the community rather than myself/personally, and would also take just as much priority to games I don't personally don't currently play (like NLO8 sngs as above, 18mans, 45mans etc).

Eitherway, regardless of who is selected make sure you guys give your ideas/suggestions to at least one of the selected reps!! MANY cash game players complained after the cash game meeting earlier this year that their opinions weren't listened to, or they didn't know they could put forward ideas. Don't make that mistake, if you have read this and you have ideas (basically everyone in this thread!) you have no excuse of not forwarding your suggestions/opinions to be discussed!!"

I don't "solely" play SNGs but like I said the majority of my volume/games/VPPs etc are SNGs, I'd estimate probably 80%+ and I am aiming to rep SNGs. I even specifically said that many times in the internet poker threads, so it's not like I am trying to persuade SNG guys to vote for me by saying this, then not saying I am a SNG guy elsewhere to get cash game player votes or something. If selected I will represent SNGs well, reading the improvement threads again and thoroughly as well as listening to anything people have to say. On a side note, you obv don't have to vote for me and I understand if you don't, but in general not voting for any SNG rep (myself or Alex) will clearly be worse than not voting, unless you specifically think we would actually cause harm or something.

If anyone has any questions, let me know, here, in the internet poker threads or just PM.

Since November, the only game I have played is hyper turbo 6max SNG. I have played about 20k this year. Last week I played 5k sngs in 4 days (1250 games per session.) Point is, SNGs are my sole game.

If you want SNG representation I feel I am the best choice. I will listen diligently to these threads and fight for the players in the meetings whenever possible (as opposed to just agreeing to what PS wants.)

Looked like there were plenty of qualified people from the Zoo threads who really want to go. Given that I'm grinding close to 2,500 hours this year, when you add up all the time traveling/spent there/jetlag it's a pretty bad deal $$-wise unless you really, really want to go.

I think for SNG-related topics we keep hammering away in the suggestions thread, my take (correctly or not) is that the meetings are going to end up mostly being about broader discussions/issues anyhow.

Besides, some people want to eat pizza if it objectively appears fair/right to them without being questioned about it by all the grumps/haters out there . If I was just reppin STTF I'd be a lot more vocal about it and take any negative energy that comes with it.