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Can you provide an approximate payout structure? How many are left / how many cash? I feel this might be important info for ICM reasons. I'm not sure ICM existed back then, but at the very least the concept still applies.

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10-12-2008 , 02:40 AM

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king acehole

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[QUOTE=Assani Fisher;6160780]Conclusion:

So the action gets back to me, and I'm wondering how a check/raise would look here after I had checked every street. Does it not look like a total bluff?

MIN CR while giving off fake vomit-in-mouth-equals-strength tell to win the pot.

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10-12-2008 , 03:28 AM

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[QUOTE=Assani Fisher;1463886]
SB checks, continuing to show weakness. The BB thinks it over for a while. As he is thinking he takes a sip of his tea, and I know this is going go sound weird, but he suddenly throws up all over the floor. Luckily he missed the table and cards. I had not seen him throw up ever before, but I did see him burp heavily and kinda throw up in his mouth a little bit once, and on that hand he was slowplaying a monster. So its a bit tough to say exactly what info to take from the throw up. Anyway, he checks.

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10-12-2008 , 09:14 AM

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HIV

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This hand should be in Small Stakes MTT

that was its home for the past ~3 years, and that is where it belongs

although the buyin on the tournament described is large

the play of the hand itself is relatively simple, as the pot was quite small and the pot happened in the early stages of the tournament...there is nothing high stakes about this hand...and the thread and ensuing insightful discussion were all better in ssmtt

whoever moved this thread, can u please move it back to its rightful place in small stakes mtt, ty

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11-01-2008 , 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by HIV

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11-01-2008 , 01:20 PM

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Assani, if you have read it, what do you think about Cole Souths / Tri's E Book

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11-02-2008 , 05:57 PM

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Assani Fisher

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Originally Posted by w33ktight

Assani, if you have read it, what do you think about Cole Souths / Tri's E Book

Sorry, but I havn't read it or even heard of it before now. I used to read all of the books, but I kinda feel that I've improved my game to pretty damn close to the maximum level for online MTTs and live cash games, as they're so ridiculously easy that basic strategy works very well. Obviously for online shorthanded NLHE games or for online PLO, I still can improve, but I game select decently and rarely play in those tougher games just because theres no reason to do so when I can find soft $25/50 or $50/100 NLHE games live.

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11-07-2008 , 09:45 AM

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Crockett616

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Hey, love the thread, thanks !

Thrilling hand too. Luckily I only just found this, went through the whole thing in an hour. Maybe a stud hand next, that shouldnt take more than a decade !

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11-16-2008 , 02:49 AM

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how does no one realize this is a level, HOWWWWWWWWWWW?

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11-26-2008 , 03:02 AM

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Assani Fisher

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Originally Posted by Yoshi63

Early/mid stages of the tourney. We're far away from money and its not really a consideration yet. The tourney is NOT noticably flat or top heavy with payouts.

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11-26-2008 , 10:13 AM

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Interesting question, I'll let others share some thoughts as I think it over and then get back to you on that.

Ha, just imagining Assani needing 4 months to think this over before he gets back to him is making me smile.

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11-26-2008 , 11:45 AM

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I'll stand by my unassailable contributions from 2006...

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Originally Posted by J.A.K.

I think there was a chapter in HOH v.2..."Beware of the OverThink..." I am not quite to his level but that caviat may apply here. IMHO

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Originally Posted by Assani Fisher

I have the book, but I can't seem to recall that section. Care to summarize? Or maybe I'll just go look it up...do you remember what page?

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Originally Posted by J.A.K.

page 160

Absolutely no clue that I was being leveled...

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12-02-2008 , 10:18 PM

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Assani - Why not just post part 2 in this thread? Im very interested in how the bustout hand plays out after having so long to think about your opponents and how your image was affected.

Maybe you could have played it better?

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12-03-2008 , 03:43 AM

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schundler

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fwiw I think we have to factor inflation into our responses

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12-03-2008 , 03:45 PM

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sonnyalbo

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This thread will be the backbone for the upcoming gem "evolution of poker"

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12-03-2008 , 03:53 PM

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i lol everytime this thread pops lolol

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12-12-2008 , 03:31 PM

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Assani Fisher

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Originally Posted by J.A.K.

I'll stand by my unassailable contributions from 2006...

Absolutely no clue that I was being leveled...

I gave a detailed response to you already in this thread regarding that section of the book. Did you miss it?

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03-28-2009 , 02:12 PM

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I think I would have to bet the river. Sure LP's hand looks weak but you simply can't represent anything here with a checkraise like you can when leading out on the river.

And obviously you can now scrap your "throwing up in mouth" read.

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03-30-2009 , 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lehigh98

Great thread Assani, but how do you think it would have played if you were dealt 5c6c instead?

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Originally Posted by Assani Fisher

Interesting question, I'll let others share some thoughts as I think it over and then get back to you on that.

Alright, I had some time to think it over and I don't think it would've changed anything with the way I played the hand. Without the gutshot on the turn, I would've been less likely to semi-bluff, but I decided against that anyway.

Anyone else have thoughts on this?

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03-31-2009 , 12:08 PM

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CompleteDonk

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This thread is hof

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03-31-2009 , 12:14 PM

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Tiltyjoker

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how do some of these threads get randomly dug up!?

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07-10-2009 , 01:36 PM

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Sn1per

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From Lurker to Murder.

Assanine Fisher had a ghastly plan,
To take this thread back, to where it began.
'Play through a Hand With me Here Part II',
Was the innocent title of his evil voodoo.

My mission was clear
And I'll post it here:
To save the world with an assanination.
(Yes, dear judges, do note my intention).

His ending will not be met with surprise,
Last Tuesday was the time:
I shot him right between the eyes,
Who dares to call it crime?

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07-10-2009 , 02:30 PM

#248

you won, don't sho

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throwing up all over the floor is a pretty sick fake tell to give off imo

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07-11-2009 , 05:57 AM

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FearTeamBurly

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**** YOU GUYS for bringing this thread back!

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07-19-2009 , 06:10 AM

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I'd fold pf for sure. Problem isn't a reraise only, but you often get multi-way with bad relative position. 45s actually doesn't play that well multi-way without position. You rarely flop two pair+, have to worry about dominated draws. Just not a good spot. Def calling any Axs though. ANd call becomes lot better if you're ensured to be HU with the fish.

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