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Old 10-11-2008, 07:57 PM   #226
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Re: Play though a hand with me here....

Can you provide an approximate payout structure? How many are left / how many cash? I feel this might be important info for ICM reasons. I'm not sure ICM existed back then, but at the very least the concept still applies.
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Old 10-12-2008, 02:40 AM   #227
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Re: Play though a hand with me here....

[QUOTE=Assani Fisher;6160780]Conclusion:


So the action gets back to me, and I'm wondering how a check/raise would look here after I had checked every street. Does it not look like a total bluff?

MIN CR while giving off fake vomit-in-mouth-equals-strength tell to win the pot.
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Old 10-12-2008, 03:28 AM   #228
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[QUOTE=Assani Fisher;1463886]
SB checks, continuing to show weakness. The BB thinks it over for a while. As he is thinking he takes a sip of his tea, and I know this is going go sound weird, but he suddenly throws up all over the floor. Luckily he missed the table and cards. I had not seen him throw up ever before, but I did see him burp heavily and kinda throw up in his mouth a little bit once, and on that hand he was slowplaying a monster. So its a bit tough to say exactly what info to take from the throw up. Anyway, he checks.
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Old 10-12-2008, 09:14 AM   #229
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Re: Play though a hand with me here....

This hand should be in Small Stakes MTT

that was its home for the past ~3 years, and that is where it belongs

although the buyin on the tournament described is large

the play of the hand itself is relatively simple, as the pot was quite small and the pot happened in the early stages of the tournament...there is nothing high stakes about this hand...and the thread and ensuing insightful discussion were all better in ssmtt

whoever moved this thread, can u please move it back to its rightful place in small stakes mtt, ty
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Old 11-01-2008, 06:08 AM   #230
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This hand should be in Small Stakes MTT

that was its home for the past ~3 years, and that is where it belongs

although the buyin on the tournament described is large

the play of the hand itself is relatively simple, as the pot was quite small and the pot happened in the early stages of the tournament...there is nothing high stakes about this hand...and the thread and ensuing insightful discussion were all better in ssmtt

whoever moved this thread, can u please move it back to its rightful place in small stakes mtt, ty
ty
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Old 11-01-2008, 01:20 PM   #231
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Re: Play though a hand with me here....

Assani, if you have read it, what do you think about Cole Souths / Tri's E Book
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Old 11-02-2008, 05:57 PM   #232
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Assani, if you have read it, what do you think about Cole Souths / Tri's E Book
Sorry, but I havn't read it or even heard of it before now. I used to read all of the books, but I kinda feel that I've improved my game to pretty damn close to the maximum level for online MTTs and live cash games, as they're so ridiculously easy that basic strategy works very well. Obviously for online shorthanded NLHE games or for online PLO, I still can improve, but I game select decently and rarely play in those tougher games just because theres no reason to do so when I can find soft $25/50 or $50/100 NLHE games live.
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Old 11-07-2008, 09:45 AM   #233
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Re: Play though a hand with me here....

Hey, love the thread, thanks ! Thrilling hand too. Luckily I only just found this, went through the whole thing in an hour. Maybe a stud hand next, that shouldnt take more than a decade !
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Old 11-16-2008, 02:49 AM   #234
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Re: Play though a hand with me here....

how does no one realize this is a level, HOWWWWWWWWWWW?
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Old 11-26-2008, 03:02 AM   #235
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Can you provide an approximate payout structure? How many are left / how many cash? I feel this might be important info for ICM reasons. I'm not sure ICM existed back then, but at the very least the concept still applies.
Early/mid stages of the tourney. We're far away from money and its not really a consideration yet. The tourney is NOT noticably flat or top heavy with payouts.
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Old 11-26-2008, 10:13 AM   #236
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Interesting question, I'll let others share some thoughts as I think it over and then get back to you on that.
Ha, just imagining Assani needing 4 months to think this over before he gets back to him is making me smile.
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Old 11-26-2008, 11:45 AM   #237
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Re: Play though a hand with me here....

I'll stand by my unassailable contributions from 2006...

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I think there was a chapter in HOH v.2..."Beware of the OverThink..." I am not quite to his level but that caviat may apply here. IMHO
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I have the book, but I can't seem to recall that section. Care to summarize? Or maybe I'll just go look it up...do you remember what page?
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Absolutely no clue that I was being leveled...
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Old 12-02-2008, 10:18 PM   #238
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Re: Play though a hand with me here....

Assani - Why not just post part 2 in this thread? Im very interested in how the bustout hand plays out after having so long to think about your opponents and how your image was affected.

Maybe you could have played it better?
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Old 12-03-2008, 03:43 AM   #239
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fwiw I think we have to factor inflation into our responses
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Old 12-03-2008, 03:45 PM   #240
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Re: Play though a hand with me here....

This thread will be the backbone for the upcoming gem "evolution of poker"
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Old 12-03-2008, 03:53 PM   #241
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i lol everytime this thread pops lolol
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Old 12-12-2008, 03:31 PM   #242
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Absolutely no clue that I was being leveled...


I gave a detailed response to you already in this thread regarding that section of the book. Did you miss it?
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Old 03-28-2009, 02:12 PM   #243
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Re: Play though a hand with me here....

I think I would have to bet the river. Sure LP's hand looks weak but you simply can't represent anything here with a checkraise like you can when leading out on the river.

And obviously you can now scrap your "throwing up in mouth" read.
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Old 03-30-2009, 10:30 PM   #244
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Great thread Assani, but how do you think it would have played if you were dealt 5c6c instead?
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Interesting question, I'll let others share some thoughts as I think it over and then get back to you on that.
Alright, I had some time to think it over and I don't think it would've changed anything with the way I played the hand. Without the gutshot on the turn, I would've been less likely to semi-bluff, but I decided against that anyway.

Anyone else have thoughts on this?
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Old 03-31-2009, 12:08 PM   #245
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Re: Play though a hand with me here....

This thread is hof
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Old 03-31-2009, 12:14 PM   #246
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Re: Play though a hand with me here....

how do some of these threads get randomly dug up!?
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Old 07-10-2009, 01:36 PM   #247
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Re: Play though a hand with me here....

From Lurker to Murder.

Assanine Fisher had a ghastly plan,
To take this thread back, to where it began.
'Play through a Hand With me Here Part II',
Was the innocent title of his evil voodoo.

My mission was clear
And I'll post it here:
To save the world with an assanination.
(Yes, dear judges, do note my intention).

His ending will not be met with surprise,
Last Tuesday was the time:
I shot him right between the eyes,
Who dares to call it crime?
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Old 07-10-2009, 02:30 PM   #248
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Re: Play though a hand with me here....

throwing up all over the floor is a pretty sick fake tell to give off imo
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Old 07-11-2009, 05:57 AM   #249
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**** YOU GUYS for bringing this thread back!
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Old 07-19-2009, 06:10 AM   #250
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I'd fold pf for sure. Problem isn't a reraise only, but you often get multi-way with bad relative position. 45s actually doesn't play that well multi-way without position. You rarely flop two pair+, have to worry about dominated draws. Just not a good spot. Def calling any Axs though. ANd call becomes lot better if you're ensured to be HU with the fish.
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