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07-19-2011 , 04:09 PM
so i made the final two tables of the $1500 event in the wsop. 3600 entrants.

first was nearly a million but i was at mere low 5 figs. (obv for tourney poker)

made some tight plays that im not fond of

i thought busting late in online MTT was tough but

oh boy, this is tougher.

how to cope with it?

i cant stop thinking about it

i try to think of the JJ vs AA of Marlin boy in last year's ME

i feel like these feelings are what makes ppl addicts.
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07-19-2011 , 04:46 PM
You are comparing a preliminary to suffering a terrible beat in a chip lead pot in the biggest tournament of the year for potentially 8 million in equity? Mariners tho.
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07-19-2011 , 05:08 PM
seek help
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07-19-2011 , 05:16 PM
What good does thinking about it do you? It's over. Your expectation is your expectation regardless of where you finish. It's difficult to develop and maintain that kind of mindset but it's so worth it.

I've bubbled some big tournaments and it was easy to get over it until Black Friday. After BF I started thinking about those tournaments again, not because of the result or how I played, but because I'll likely never get a chance to be placed in that kind of situation again. That part makes me sad because I can't just register for another like the old days but as far as the money or glory of final tabling a big tournament, whatever. You have to run wayyyy above expectation to get to the final two tables anyway so no sense in complaining when you bust.
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07-19-2011 , 05:33 PM
I have to live with the pain of knowing I will be a huge lifetime Sunday Million fish, even worse.
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07-19-2011 , 05:36 PM
he isn't complaining. being deep in a huge live tournament and blowing it is way different than most online mtts (tho i imagine the experience is similar with similar sized online events). it can be very traumatizing. my best advice is to just let a lot of time pass and eventually it just becomes something you're pretty numb to. or just win another tournament.
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07-19-2011 , 05:42 PM
heart bleeds
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07-19-2011 , 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DavidTth
he isn't complaining. being deep in a huge live tournament and blowing it is way different than most online mtts (tho i imagine the experience is similar with similar sized online events). it can be very traumatizing. my best advice is to just let a lot of time pass and eventually it just becomes something you're pretty numb to. or just win another tournament.
QFMT. In my experience it's a lot easier to deal with if you just get bad beat or coolered to busto, but if you made decisions that you're unsure of after the tournament (or made decisions that you now know were outright wrong), the whole mess can indeed haunt you for quite a while if you let it.

My best advice is to remember that you probably made a high number of really good decisions (and ran pretty well, obviously) to get to the point where things started to come apart -- so it's pretty ridiculous to beat yourself up over a couple of tight/questionable plays late.

If you're good, you very well may get the same or better opportunity you just had again, and you'll be better prepared to just bink the bracelet next time anyway. Gl.
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07-19-2011 , 05:45 PM
thanks for the replies,

im not complaining but seeking advice from those who have experienced similar situation on how to overcome this feeling of frustration.

Mariner comparison isnt to say im at par but thinking 'there's the Mariner guy who suffered much greater blow so i my pain shouldnt be emphasized' line of thinking but then again, everything is relative.

more advices will be appreciated!
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07-19-2011 , 05:48 PM
As much as poker is a skill game, the tourney luck factor is ridonkulous.

There are many people who COULD HAVE won but never did. They're good enough but luck just never smiles and their KK loses to AJ or to QQ in those key life-changing hands.

I feel like I'm one of em too OP. Some of us were just born to be second or third fiddles I think...
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07-19-2011 , 05:52 PM
^ thanks,

losing a flip would be better than making a bad fold/bad shove.... which i felt i did few times late in the tourney... which hurts the most thinking what could've/should've thinking.. mere thought of 'its bad, so stop thinking about it' wasnt enough..
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07-19-2011 , 06:00 PM
You ain't got **** on Mcmatto...

Better luck next year.
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07-19-2011 , 06:02 PM
If you listen to Busquet's great commentary on WSOP ME, what has he said more than a few times?

"Always have a plan in the hand"

What he means is, when you make a play, you should ALWAYS know what you're going to do. If he flats my raise, I will react in this way... or if he shoves over the top, I will lay it down... etc.

The benefit to having a plan of action is it gives you the courage of your convictions.

If the plan was faulty in retrospect... oh well - it's now simply an opportunity to learn from it and become a better player because of the experience.

Best wishes, we all know how it hurts MORE when you get close but miss than if you never got close at all...
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07-19-2011 , 06:03 PM
shove 76s like a man next time
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07-19-2011 , 06:15 PM
you tried so hard, and got so far

but in the end, it doesnt even matter
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07-19-2011 , 06:16 PM
you had to fall, to lose it all

but in the end, it doesn't really matter
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07-19-2011 , 06:30 PM
94% of people who make the final 18 still lose the tournament, and if you're playing scared/bad/etc then you'll probably lose 97% of the time.

The whole point of playing through a huge poker tournament is to get to the final 2 tables so that you can wreck shop on all the terrified fish who are clinging desperately to their ONE TIME and are so intimidated by the moment that they can barely function.

If you don't play much poker, then this was your one time and you blew it, so get over it and move on with life.

If you do play a lot of poker and plan to play a lot in the future, then learn from this experience and use it to make sure that you play with some swagger next time you're deep. Just remember that next time you make the final 18 of a big tournament, you're probably going to lose then too, and probably the next time too, but as long as you play like a boss and without regrets then you'll be able to sleep at night and you'll probably win 15% of the time instead of like 3% of the time if you play bad. Eventually you will bink one.
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07-19-2011 , 06:41 PM
how would you know
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07-19-2011 , 10:34 PM
you cant Succeed without first failing...... dont know who said it, but seems like the appropriate answer here
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07-19-2011 , 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by abefroman84
You are comparing a preliminary to suffering a terrible beat in a chip lead pot in the biggest tournament of the year for potentially 8 million in equity? Mariners tho.
not quite what he was doing.
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07-19-2011 , 10:42 PM
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how would you know
gold
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07-19-2011 , 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Lithium
you ran well to get there and now you complain.

wow, go to africa bro, they never get to play wsop.
thats racist
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07-19-2011 , 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by GoldenBears
94% of people who make the final 18 still lose the tournament, and if you're playing scared/bad/etc then you'll probably lose 97% of the time.

The whole point of playing through a huge poker tournament is to get to the final 2 tables so that you can wreck shop on all the terrified fish who are clinging desperately to their ONE TIME and are so intimidated by the moment that they can barely function.

If you don't play much poker, then this was your one time and you blew it, so get over it and move on with life.

If you do play a lot of poker and plan to play a lot in the future, then learn from this experience and use it to make sure that you play with some swagger next time you're deep. Just remember that next time you make the final 18 of a big tournament, you're probably going to lose then too, and probably the next time too, but as long as you play like a boss and without regrets then you'll be able to sleep at night and you'll probably win 15% of the time instead of like 3% of the time if you play bad. Eventually you will bink one.
pretty much all of this. good poast imo
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07-19-2011 , 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by GoldenBears
94% of people who make the final 18 still lose the tournament, and if you're playing scared/bad/etc then you'll probably lose 97% of the time.

The whole point of playing through a huge poker tournament is to get to the final 2 tables so that you can wreck shop on all the terrified fish who are clinging desperately to their ONE TIME and are so intimidated by the moment that they can barely function.

If you don't play much poker, then this was your one time and you blew it, so get over it and move on with life.

If you do play a lot of poker and plan to play a lot in the future, then learn from this experience and use it to make sure that you play with some swagger next time you're deep. Just remember that next time you make the final 18 of a big tournament, you're probably going to lose then too, and probably the next time too, but as long as you play like a boss and without regrets then you'll be able to sleep at night and you'll probably win 15% of the time instead of like 3% of the time if you play bad. Eventually you will bink one.
pageh well-timed sarcasm aside..
well said, real nice post.
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07-19-2011 , 11:38 PM
I'll show you pain. Crucio!!
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