start by shutting your beak; the rest is easy and comes naturally.

I think for some people this may be bad advice, I wouldn't suggest getting to the final two tables of your next tournament and then just hitting the "maniac mode" button, you'll probably just make a bad move because you feel like you have to make something happen, like re-ship with a weak A or something. I see this all the time, I was a short stack at a final table of a 1K and I saw these idiots five bet air balls into the nuts, like 4 of the big stacks just blew up and bluffed all their chips off, I'm sitting their biding my time and and after half the FT blew up I got aggressive and ended up taking it down. I mean its completely situational but I see a lot of people Isildurring their way right out of the tourney because they bled out their last tourney. OP would feel even worse Cheonging it in the end of his deep run next time around, 4 betting A7 into Aces or something, he'd really be on suicide watch after that. Sometimes its just not in the cards, no matter how well you play, no matter what you do, after all there is only one winner.
I think the main thing is to make your peace with this reality before entering, then just play optimally for your image and situation throughout the tourney, then when you get coolered or bad beat late in a tourney, it'll roll off your back. I have been sucked out on in a 1K with 2 tables left and it ruined me for a while, but three weeks later I shipped 50K at a Venetian employing the same strategies, so it made me feel a little better. Now, it really just doesn't bother me, its inevitable, you will lose most the time and when you get deep you will not FT most of the time and when you FT you will not win most of the time...

Lol at reshipping an A being manic mode.

Ya, it worked out really awesome for Joseph Cheong...

And as i said its totally situational, I was taking about a specific instance where a rock stone 55 yr old man who played 2 hands a level literally opened 4.5 x from UTG at the final table and some idiot Swedish kid goes all in from the BB, the stone snaps with AA and the Swede turns over A6os and loses 90% of his stack for no reason... It was obvious the nit had a monster and the moron swede should have just folded. Completely situational like I said before, sometimes you gotta reshove weaker hands obviously....

lol I'm not advising you to just jam willy nilly without a plan, I'm saying don't be afraid to play good poker.

Figure out what types of pressure each player struggles to handle, and then apply that type of pressure until they are ready to take a stand, then fold and start over. Some guys can't handle you flatting them then raising wet flops in position, some guys don't know what to do when you 3b them and then downbet flops and then overbet board changing turns, some guys want to open a ton of hands on 40bbs but are unwilling to 4b jam light so just 3b them every time until they do something about it... others can't deal with putting their tournament life at stake on the river when they can't get lucky if they guess wrong and will play way too tight against river aggression. The final 2 tables of a tournament are where all the pressure points get amplified, and you have to, you know, play good poker.

that post raped, do you wanna teach me now?

ya def gives you new things to think about, thanks gb

Sounds like Goldenbears is a fan of spewing all over the place and hoping to run good.

"marlin boy"

so you're saying you think youll pass on his advice?

ohh, the quality of MTTc threads these days...

i'm convinced frzn assets is a sirswish gimmick

Nope, just passing on some life experiences I've had, easy to question and second guess yourself like OP after making deep run but just shy of the big monies... After busting a multi day live tourney I find a lot of people, especially highly competitive people, are just looking for a reason as to why they went bust; they want to place the blame on one factor that is in their control and can be clearly defined e.g. spewing, playing too tight, playing too passive, getting involved with another big stack etc.
Its a coping mechanism, if a player can pinpoint the exact cause of busting out than they can employ corrective measures moving forward; the problem is a lot of the times the reason a player busts out late in a tournament is completely out of their hands. If a player is unable to recognize that it was simply in the cards for them to bust and it was nothing they did wrong, they may try to correct a problem that doesn't exist. I mean if you go card dead and everyone opens and three/four bets in front of you and there are simply zero spots for good plays and you bleed down and eventually shove 17 BB with a medium holding, you may think to yourself that you played too tight when in fact you were just card dead with no spots to play. Trying to "correct" this in your next tournament may result in playing too many hands or too aggressively etc.
If you have a more Zen attitude about tournaments in general you are more able to objectively review your play, make modifications if necessary and move forward to the next tourney without dwelling on the one you just busted out of. I know it seems simple but you see thousands of posts on 2+2 reading the same "what did I do wrong at this final table? What should i have done differently to win X tourney" Sometimes bad play is involved but a lot of the time they obviously did nothing wrong and just got unlucky etc; in these cases there is no "reason" why they busted and altering the game that got them that deep in the tourney to begin with could be detrimental...

you're never going to run the streets

come on even swish isn't that good

Last year's WSOP. My sole goal was to get the US flag on my Hendon Mob page. I originally just went for 2,5 weeks, during that time period I played 21 tournaments. 10x WSOP, 11x Venetian, Caesar's, etc. 21 tournaments later, I still haven't been anywhere near cashing.

After my last tournament I was like "**** this, only the ME left, I guess I'll have to take a shot at that".

I play 1C, go through with over 110k chips.

I play day 2, go through with the same stack I had. I'd have had a lot more but went for a thinnnnn river value against Corwin Cole valuecutting myself.

I play day 3, make several mistakes against Johnny Chan, making a fool of myself on tv, but still make it to day 4 with 25BB.

My day 4 table draw is awesome. It has Aguskb but he busts almost immediately. The only one I recognize is Dwyte Pilgrim and everyone else is really, really bad. There is a random asian to my left who plays like a huge spazz and bleeds chips.

20 or so to the bubble and I've got almost 40BB. Would I finally, finally get my first cash in the United States? That 20k would help a lot financially as well after dropping 30k already.

I look at pocket 9s at UTG+2. I make it a standard 2,2x. The random asian next to me, who isn't following at all, says "raise", not noticing my raise. Now that the dealer points out there's a raise, he wants to call, but the dealer says he must raise. He makes some ******ed 3x 3bet even that it's obvious he doesn't like his hand that much.

Folded to me, I shove. He thinks and calls with pocket 8s.

Flop 8 8 2.

I still have yet to cash in the United States or at the WSOP.

The Asian makes november 9.

Still hurts

lol to funny

Kipling said it best...


If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same

and

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss

Droppin Knowledge.

please please please be a level



live mtts are a sickness, man. went to vegas this year since black friday happened, busting out of tournaments and being upset about it was a relatively new thing... but live mtts are 100% tiltier than online and you question every single play 1000x more because you have so much more time to think about individual hands. wait for online >>> grind >>> win a lot of money gradually rather than all at once = happy feelings

^this.

it's also pretty painful when you realize you can be massively +ev in LIVE tournaments and come out a life-time loser in them.

So close, no matter how far
Couldn't be much more from the heart
Forever trusting who we are
and nothing else matters

Never opened myself this way
Life is ours, we live it our way
All these words I don't just say
and nothing else matters

never cared for what they say
never cared for games they play
never cared for what they do
never cared for what they know
and I know

No, nothing else matters

Metallica - Nothing Else Matters

I played in a deepstack where I'm still kicking myself over my play. I overshoved w 9s in the cutoff over a shorties all in. The only guy that could knock me out called on the button and turned over kings.

I donk off my whole, very big stack, very close to the money on a thoughtless play. Yeah it's just a deep stack, but 1st was 20k if I remember correctly so it doesn't hurt as bad as a 1k, but it still sucks when you make a -EV play if you would have just stopped to think about it you would never have made that play.

Beating myself up over it has made me look closer at my overall live game though and find areas that I can improve in so it's over all been a good thing. I am playing with way more confidence and trying to be disciplined to make sure I go through my checklist when I get late into a tournament rather than just insta-making the move I assume is correct. Trying to be more aware of my/other player's near exact stack size late in the tournament although I struggle with counting the big chips so I start estimating and find my estimates are usually off. So I end up often spending a lot of time counting up my 525,500 in chips. It sucks and one thing I miss about online was that you never had to count stack sizes.

The pain online was pretty brutal (if you are like 11th on a 32k guarantee for example), but you get over it and move on to the next one. Well, unless you do like me as a top 5 (I want to say 3rd, but it's fuzzy now) in chips with 80 to go in mini-ftops main event and misclick a blind steal for most of your stack to get called by A3o (or something marginal) because the blind knows it's a misclick. I don't remember the amounts but the misclick was something like 460,000 instead of 46000 raise.

That one you feel for years to come.

Best post in thread.