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07-05-2009 , 06:27 AM
Im not even hoping to run good, just hoping to not run bad.
07-05-2009 , 06:30 AM
glgl to all 2p2ers. especially zima, brad2002tj and DNA2RNA who are playing today.
07-05-2009 , 07:28 AM
At JFK..rushing to the rio after I land...one timmmeeeee 1D still open
07-05-2009 , 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by BJLTNYK
At JFK..rushing to the rio after I land...one timmmeeeee 1D still open
lol..I uh..wouldn't worry too much.
07-05-2009 , 08:18 AM
Day 1b Chip Counts


Combined day 1a and 1b seats, definitely not an official list

Last edited by Kevmath; 07-05-2009 at 08:28 AM.
07-05-2009 , 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by BJLTNYK
At JFK..rushing to the rio after I land...one timmmeeeee 1D still open
hmm im taking jfk today too but not til like 445, just regsitering tomorrow morning for 1d.....think thatll be a problem?
07-05-2009 , 08:36 AM
GOGOGO POPPA ZZZZZZZZZZZZIMSTAR!

Last edited by rmthawk64; 07-05-2009 at 08:36 AM. Reason: zima421 on some sites
07-05-2009 , 08:37 AM
From Andrew Feldman's latest blog on ESPN.com:

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In any case, the decision to play more levels hasn't been made, but I'm expecting that change to be announced before play begins tomorrow. I spoke to Jack Effel about the decision on the podcast and he was simply adamant that it was in the players' benefit to have these shorter starting days.
07-05-2009 , 09:06 AM
Any specifics on how Matusow did at the feature table? Judging by the pokernews chip counts he kind of hovered around the starting stack, lost a big pot, and then doubled up right before the end of the day to 37k.
07-05-2009 , 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevmath
From the structure sheet:



Avg. stack Day 1a 2008 (5 levels, 20k chips, 1297 entries, 636 players left) - 40,786
Avg. stack Day 1a 2009 (4 levels, 30k chips, 1116 entries, 821 players left) - 40,779

I don't know what the above proves though...
Day 1a 2009 - 821 of 1116 remaining - 73.56% of field remaining
Day 1b 2009 - 655 of 873 remaining - 75.03% of field remaining

Looking into it further:

Given those numbers, they are gambling and/or expecting that there won't be an onslaught of late entries, as the current elimination pace is dictating that it would require approximately 4,040 entries (3,000/.7425) to be in play between days 1c and 1d to bring on the threat of possibility that they enter Day 2b with more than their maximum capacity (3,000) in participants.

Other numbers:

2008 Day 1a - 1,297
2008 Day 1b - 1,158
2008 Day 1c - 1,928
2008 Day 1d - 2,461

2009's current entry pace so far is at 81% of that of 2008. Further rough extrapolating to Days 1c and 1d would mean they should expect about 3,555 more entries in the next two days. Which means they should be able to comfortably be able to fit everyone for Day 2b.

Other facts and numbers:

2008 - 136,880,000 chips in play (+/- margin of error for color-ups)
2009 - ~166,320,000 chips in play (based on above rough estimates of expected total entries, which adds up to ~5,544)

- Last year's Day 5 ended at the completion of Level 23 (12k/24k/3k).
- Day 6 took twelve hours, going from 79 runners to 27.
- Day 7 took fifteen plus hours to go from 27 to the November 9.

I bring all these up to show that it can be said that they "played less than 5 levels" on some days in last year's Main Event, with Day 5 having ended going into Level 24. However, this year is on pace to have roughly 30,000,000 more chips in play, and more time will be needed for the fortunate few to accumulate those excess chips, so to start snipping off levels at this juncture is doing the players lucky enough to run deep a dis-service, as the addition of the 8th day looked as it were to help alleviate the long hours of grueling play in addition to help reach the November 9.

Rather, Harrah's is snipping levels now to force people to potentially miss additional time from work or other ventures (with absolutely no guarantee of cashing as at this pace the money may not be reached until Day 4, with an estimate of 522-567 runners doing so) in the name of greed to help stuff their coffers some more.

God, that was too much research into something so stupid. Why does the WSOP have to needlessly piss people off?
07-05-2009 , 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by BigCityBanker
Sheets/ToddTerry,

maybe I am a little slow on the take but why are you both so objectionable to the proposed changes affecting players who start on C & D? Surely it doesnt make that much of a difference?
Playing more levels on Days 1C/1D than 1A/1B doesn't make a bit of difference to those playing on 1C/1D IMO, if that's what you're asking. I'm playing 1D, and I have a day off between 1D and 2B, and a day off between 2B and 3 (assuming I make it that far), so I personally don't care how the now 9 levels (maybe) over Days 1 and 2 are played out. The fact that they felt compelled to switch back to 5 levels on 1C and 1D just further proves how bad it was to have just 4 levels on 1A/1B.

The losers in this deal are the recreational players who played 1A/1B and bust out in the first level of Day 2 -- they have been forced to stay in Vegas a few extra days. Also, I suspect, given that we started with 1.5x the stacks of last year, that the decision to play only 9 levels on the first 2 days (which 24 hours ago was a decision to play only 8 levels on the first 2 days) will force additional levels to be played on certain days later on in the tournament.


Edit: Just saw the post above me, very good analysis.
07-05-2009 , 10:25 AM
So how many players expected to be in? Over 7,000 or under 7,000?
07-05-2009 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by TEKEE
So how many players expected to be in? Over 7,000 or under 7,000?
Seems like they'll be very lucky to get to 6,000.
07-05-2009 , 11:07 AM
there were a bunch of prop bets i could have taken to bet that the field size would have been under last years number really regretting that i didnt take them now sigh.
07-05-2009 , 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by swd805
Damn I was hoping to only play 4 levels day 1d. Kinda ridiculous that they cant be consistent.
Me too.
This kind of tilts me, but got to go w/ the flow.
07-05-2009 , 12:19 PM
Googled e1 at my d2 table but didn't really find much. If anyone knows something about these guys that I don't, holla@yaboy. Thanks.

Ly, Dau 62000 G150 1
Castella, Philippe 25075 G150 2
Lunardi, Kristian 56100 G150 3
Bennett, Adam 27500 G150 4
Curry, Clark 68550 G150 5
Hochman, Corey 33000 G150 6
Vaghefi, Freddy 52150 G150 7
Graydon, Michael 75025 G150 9
07-05-2009 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Prime Time
Me too.
This kind of tilts me, but got to go w/ the flow.
Yeah, I'd have preferred 4, but seeing as I was expecting 5 until yesterday it's no big deal.
07-05-2009 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by shaniac
Um is there some chance we play more than 4 levels on day 1d?
6?
07-05-2009 , 12:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shipontilt
there were a bunch of prop bets i could have taken to bet that the field size would have been under last years number really regretting that i didnt take them now sigh.
yea i coulda got some sick odds on under 6000 i feel
07-05-2009 , 01:16 PM
Alexander, Jason 89575 B10 5
Baltz, Dennis 49450 B10 7
Eaton, Jon 27325 B10 9
Lewis, Jonathan 22975 B10 3
Terry, Mark 20900 B10 1
Raymer, Greg 43750 B10 4
Desmoort, Jean 36375 B10 6
Del Duca, Marco 31025 B10 8
Minnullin, Albert 30975 B10 2

sooo, raymer & costanza... i'm like 99% sure i'll be the TV table.
07-05-2009 , 01:22 PM
Erickson, Ryan 34300 B4 5
Mertz, Jasper 32500 B4 7
Maestrolorenzo, Antionio 29825 B4 1
Whitt, Leo 24925 B4 7
Mcmurter, Jordan 22275 B4 9
Bojan, Gledovic dnr B4 3
Patterson, Kyle Bradley 55500 B4 2
Eckstut, Robert 39700 B4 4
Friedlander, Steve 23400 B4 6
Ury, Jack 23075 B4 8



awesome- I have to fade two people sitting in the 7 seat and then get facepalmed by the 96 year old guy. I'm gonna puke if he busts me.
07-05-2009 , 01:33 PM
Eckstut is bobbofitos on 2p2 afaik
07-05-2009 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by sketchy1
Alexander, Jason 89575 B10 5
Baltz, Dennis 49450 B10 7
Eaton, Jon 27325 B10 9
Lewis, Jonathan 22975 B10 3
Terry, Mark 20900 B10 1
Raymer, Greg 43750 B10 4
Desmoort, Jean 36375 B10 6
Del Duca, Marco 31025 B10 8
Minnullin, Albert 30975 B10 2

sooo, raymer & costanza... i'm like 99% sure i'll be the TV table.
Which one are you? Look forward to seeing you on ESPN. I'd like to see a deep run from a TV guy (Alexander, Garrett, Romano, Macdonald) this year, but I will wish for it to not be at your expense. (-:
07-05-2009 , 01:49 PM
Amazon orange Table 96 seat 6, first event ever.
07-05-2009 , 01:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sketchy1
Alexander, Jason 89575 B10 5
Baltz, Dennis 49450 B10 7
Eaton, Jon 27325 B10 9
Lewis, Jonathan 22975 B10 3
Terry, Mark 20900 B10 1
Raymer, Greg 43750 B10 4
Desmoort, Jean 36375 B10 6
Del Duca, Marco 31025 B10 8
Minnullin, Albert 30975 B10 2

sooo, raymer & costanza... i'm like 99% sure i'll be the TV table.
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