Shouldn't the vikings be looking to build and thus not really be looking at Warner?

From what I've read (and I feel dirty from reading NVG) what Blackize has done is nowhere near unethical or immoral. I don't think Boku owns or deserves any action. He either gets it or he doesn't. Blackize offering the bet at better odds is not friendly, but maybe they aren't friends. If Boku needs more action he might have to adjust his line.

Is this some gambler's honor thing where the people who are +EV are supposed to stick together and let them have their fish to themselves?

Is Boku some STTFer that I've missed and this is STTFer on STTFer violence?

I've probably missed some of the details, so maybe I'm wrong, but probably not.

BTW, I bet I can crush an egg in my hand, but I want 100 to 1 odds as it's nearly impossible. Anyone who offers 50 to 1 is a dick.

Sigh. I just tried this. Fail. Try with two hands. Discover why you gently crack eggs rather than pop them. Egg everywhere. Double fail.

physically impossible if the egg is pure and has no cracks in it

and it has to be crushed in the palm of your hand, not poked.

I've seen him do it twice. And the second time had many people paying close attention to verify

good to know

anyone know record for most tables profitablly is anymore? since the don's ive done some 60 tabling the 1.10's just for fun and have been winning cause obv ppl are bad. anyone know anything on this? osrry for typin lil drunkk.

There's a youtube video of a swedish guy playing 72 tables at once. I don't know if he won on that session.

Has the definition of ethical changed? I thought it was subjective, but what do I know? I'm a moron.

I really was surprised to see people who play poker for a living not see what is wrong with this, but I guess it makes sense that it's online poker players. I'd doubt Blackize deals with anything like this in a real life social environment -- I seriously doubt he has any real social skills especially after seeing his last few posts.

Micro, no offence but I wouldn't expect you to not take Blackize's side here. You guys are obviously buddies.
I wonder if you would feel nothing was wrong if a similar situation was applied to your solar panel business with someone filling in Blackize's roll.

Clearly.

No my friends don't generally make prop bets.

I treat idiots on the internet with contempt. How you can draw any conclusions about my real life persona or my social skills is beyond me, but it does further solidify your idiocy in my mind.

He's not taking my side because we're friends. He was curious about the situation and genuinely surprised that you guys are so up in arms about it when he saw the details.

I don't really see how you can contrive such a situation.

Boku set a bad line, one that would attract bettors to his side of the proposition. Obviously I jumped on it and I don't think anyone should really fault me for it.

SiQ, no worries. I've met Blackize once and we talk on AIM sometimes. I don't think disagreeing here makes anyone a moron, but I don't really see how it's unethical.

If someone else offers a prospective client a better price on a solar install, they may "steal" my client. I might not be happy about it, but I wouldn't consider their action unethical. I wouldn't expect a close friend to do it, but if it were a stranger I would just consider it business. In fact, I would not hold it against them at all and I am friendly with competitors.

What is the problem? Is it hustler's honor? I really don't get it. Why can't Blackize make side bets if the other guy is asking for too steep of odds?

QFT

And everytime you make a change it's a real pain to readjust ...

F me rigid ... what's the technical maximum?

My son made his first Skate Video for YouTube today.

Please take a look and leave a comment (good or bad). Trust me, he and his buddies worked hard getting to this point.

http://www.youtube.com/user/VolleySkater

You guys are the best.

p.s. Any prop bets on if he gets sponsored?

whichever the guy wearin the super tight jeans will get sponsored by levis

Not at all. They are ready to win it all if they get a good QB and maybe plug a hole at RT. Most of their players are in their prime, and the roster is loaded with pro bowl caliber players. Getting a good veteran for a couple years is just what they need imo, and in the opinion of most people who are knowledgeable about the team. Unfortunately, that doesnt include the head coach or the player personal guy.

Microbet did it, I was there - there are pictures in the archives on 2+2 of Devin making sure he doesnt fall while he cleans egg off the ceiling.

Yeah - this.

Slacka, awesome. I broke my wrist 3 times skateboarding. I hope your son fares better.

He's very good!

fyp imo, dudes lets make love not war

I see. I haven't been as good about following teams aside from the Redskins since I stopped playing Madden. Hopefully the Vikes will do something right in the offseason and you'll at least get a good playoff sweat out of it.

Slacka your son and his friends are very good. If they start skating in competitions they probably have a shot at some small sponsorships(basically just free gear).

Micro lets say you went to some open forum, like a solar panel conference and you got your own booth to do presentations. You do one and get a bit of a crowd going, you do all the work of attracting the potential clients and then after you've laid it all out someone jumps in the middle of the crowd and starts soliciting. Good biz move for him, but pretty low thing to do, no? If not than we just disagree on whats right and wrong.

The problem with what blackize is doing is that it's basically a spite-call with less reason, it is just bad for everyone. Boku is just trying to make some money -- but if people keep knocking and trying to steal his action before he's gotten his share of it (like blackize) then he wont do it. Now Boku loses money, and Blackize hasn't gained any, but he is also ruining it for Boku.
People who do that make it harder for other people to make money, and the worst part is they really don't gain anything by what they do.



Blackize
Yes, clearly.

Thanks you proved me right.

Thanks you proved me right again. You've insulted me a few times and I don't remember saying anything bad about you at all, just disagreed with your action. I'd imagine only someone with really poor social skills would do that.

Situation contrived.

keep it up you're really doing well.

No war here.
Just trying to have a friendly name-calling-free debate here with some adults.

8 ===== D

blackize

That is not possible with blackize he has got one hell of a temper on him.

fwiw it's worth I think it's pretty lame to steal action too but maybe blackize didn't know boku was still looking for action.

Solar conferences are full of people doing presentations right next to competitors doing presentations. You're saying that posting in the other guys thread is like jumping in front of his table or something. Maybe a little, but not really. Ownership of a thread is pretty tenuous and there is a pretty clear invitation for anyone to post a response.

I think a more similar analogy is if I post on a solar forum that I will install solar for $x and someone else comes along and says they will install it for <$x. I wouldn't consider that friendly, but I would expect it and wouldn't consider it unethical (anymore than the spamming I would have done anyway).


Seems like Blackize was trying to make profitable bets for himself. Not just to kill Boku's action. Regardless, calling it unethical seems a misuse of the word. Maybe you could say Blackize is being a dick, but I don't see what he owes Boku and I don't see Boku as having a right to the action.

It can't be bad for everyone. If ruining the bet is bad for someone it's good for someone else.

Is there some sanctity of prop bets that I'm not aware of? He did post it on a public forum. It's not like it was a private thing between friends.

Someone made the comparison of hookers working their own corners. Maybe that's not such a bad comparison, but I wouldn't call it unethical for one hooker to go to another hooker's corner. A violation of professional courtesy I reckon, but not doing something wrong.

Is Boku's bet a hustle? Does that matter to you?

Micro I think it's safe to say that me and you can just agree to disagree.

Boku's bet isn't a hustle. For me a hustle has to have some twist you could never account for or that goes outside the rules, a cheat. Like playing 3-card-monte with a 4th card. If what Boku is doing is insanely easy (I don't know or care) that isn't a hustle - all of the information is out there for the people to gather his past playing history (sharkscope) the guidelines of the bet, everything.

Thank you for being polite.

This is pretty much what happens at conferences.

Except spite calling would cost me money. Worst case scenario is I take enough action that boku doesn't want to do the prop and neither of us makes any money. If I let boku snap up all the action, then I get nothing. It's clearly detrimental to boku, but it's his own fault for setting a bad line people leaping to take his action is what happens when he makes one side look way more favorable than another.

Neither boku or I win or lose any money if the bet doesn't go forward.

Gravy had trouble getting 60k wagered on a much more difficult bet at 1:1. If I wait for boku to get 105k wagered against him at 3:1, in all likelihood there won't be any action left for me.

The insults were more directed at that clown guy. Calling my actions unethical I think is a bit of a stretch, but calling them immoral is absurd and I should have made a better distinction.

I think reading into someone's social skills because of the way they handle themselves on the internet is pretty ridiculous.