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Old 02-20-2009, 11:44 AM   #1126
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AMT - Gold, pure gold.

Blackize: Now you're just running into the top of their range - but, would you ever fold AK to a five bet?

Indiana: I think it's fun that you're back - I'm the most intelligent man I ever met, and a full time poker player and poker god at 25nl. Why should I use my planetary sized brain to improve when my ego gets a daily masage from beating so many different people. If I move to higher stakes, I would be beating the same people all the time which isn't half as much fun .... Lolz - you do need intelligence to play good poker, but emotional control, discipline and obsession are much more important. I am obsessed, so 1 out of 4 equals 25nl - discipline will get me to 50nl, intelligence may take me to 100nl, but above that it's all emotional stability.
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Old 02-20-2009, 12:02 PM   #1127
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Just in case my British sense of humour is lost on my fellow STTFr's, I have been lucky enough to meet several really intelligent people, including a Field's Medal winner. IMO the most intelligent of all was a guy called Jon Wood, a former trader at UBS, and founder of SRM Global, a hedge fund. In spite of his unbelievable intellect and amazing thinking speed, his fund has lost an enormous amount of money in the last 12 months. I am not sure, but I think it's >75% of c$5 billion. I think intelligence is somewhat overrated in every field as the source of success. Of course you need an appropriate level of intelligence in your field to succeed, but it's definitely not the most important factor in any field.
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Old 02-20-2009, 12:57 PM   #1128
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Ph.d's aren't that difficult to get. Not to take away form mad scientist or anyone that has one. They aren't easy to get either. Just saying, getting a Ph.D. isn't an automatic sign of some elite level of intelligence.
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Old 02-20-2009, 12:59 PM   #1129
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I've been missing all the fun.

Most jobs, including poker, are not highly correlated with intelligence. One big exception is installing solar.
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:27 PM   #1130
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:36 PM   #1131
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Whenever I reluctantly tell a recreational player how many games I can play at a time, or how many games I try to play in a month, they usually look at me with shocked reverence and assume I'm some kind of super-genius. The fact of the matter is it's just refining a small set of particular skills and repeating ad nauseum until it becomes second nature.

FWIW I only know one guy in a Phd program right now and he very well could be a genius. He recently spoke at a conference at Oxford alongside a Nobel prize winner . Whenever I try to 'talk shop' with him (He's studying some particular aspect of Quantum theory), even with him dumbing it down considerably, I find myself lost in a matter of seconds. And thinking about that kind of stuff occupies a lot of my time.

Poker players aren't geniuses imo
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:55 PM   #1132
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Old 02-20-2009, 02:00 PM   #1133
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Whenever I reluctantly tell a recreational player how many games I can play at a time, or how many games I try to play in a month, they usually look at me with shocked reverence and assume I'm some kind of super-genius. The fact of the matter is it's just refining a small set of particular skills and repeating ad nauseum until it becomes second nature.

FWIW I only know one guy in a Phd program right now and he very well could be a genius. He recently spoke at a conference at Oxford alongside a Nobel prize winner . Whenever I try to 'talk shop' with him (He's studying some particular aspect of Quantum theory), even with him dumbing it down considerably, I find myself lost in a matter of seconds. And thinking about that kind of stuff occupies a lot of my time.

Poker players aren't geniuses imo

When I tell recreational people how many tables I play and games I play a month they tell me I'm addicted and try to call an intervention.
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Old 02-20-2009, 02:01 PM   #1134
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Indiana: I think it's fun that you're back - I'm the most intelligent man I ever met, and a full time poker player and poker god at 25nl. Why should I use my planetary sized brain to improve when my ego gets a daily masage from beating so many different people. If I move to higher stakes, I would be beating the same people all the time which isn't half as much fun .... Lolz - you do need intelligence to play good poker, but emotional control, discipline and obsession are much more important. I am obsessed, so 1 out of 4 equals 25nl - discipline will get me to 50nl, intelligence may take me to 100nl, but above that it's all emotional stability.
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Just in case my British sense of humour is lost on my fellow STTFr's, I have been lucky enough to meet several really intelligent people, including a Field's Medal winner. IMO the most intelligent of all was a guy called Jon Wood, a former trader at UBS, and founder of SRM Global, a hedge fund. In spite of his unbelievable intellect and amazing thinking speed, his fund has lost an enormous amount of money in the last 12 months. I am not sure, but I think it's >75% of c$5 billion. I think intelligence is somewhat overrated in every field as the source of success. Of course you need an appropriate level of intelligence in your field to succeed, but it's definitely not the most important factor in any field.
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Old 02-20-2009, 03:13 PM   #1135
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Genius is overused obv, most people I would consider a genius at something are completely fkn useless at many other things. Poker takes a pretty specific set of well-rounded skills imo, and most people that are super good at something lack in some other area they need to excel at pocer. In most cases I think it would be easier for someone who is pretty bright and level headed to be good at poker than other super-brains in specialized areas of science/business.
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Old 02-20-2009, 03:34 PM   #1136
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I think some people are too smart to be good at poker if that makes sense. I know of a few that I believe over think spots or they make playing poker more complicated that it needs to be. A little bit of math and common sense can make any body willing to put the time in winning players.

Most of your opponents are thinking level 1 for you to expose them you need to be thinking level 2. If you are thinking level 10 when they are thinking level 0.5 then you will be making incorrect plays.

When dealing with players that are of equal or higher skill I like to just open shove everything and pray.


What's genius level IQ anyway?
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Old 02-20-2009, 03:39 PM   #1137
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starts @ 140ish I think
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Old 02-20-2009, 04:14 PM   #1138
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IQ is hugely overrated. Saying someone is a genius because they got a 140 on a test is silly.
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Old 02-20-2009, 04:20 PM   #1139
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IQ is hugely overrated. Saying someone is a genius because they got a 140 on a test is silly.
I agree w/ this to a point but by what other standard are we supposed to measure intellect?

If someone excels at answering dozens of complicated questions in a relatively short period of time, and someone else does considerably worse and takes longer to finish, can we not reasonably assume the first person is more intelligent?
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If someone excels at answering dozens of complicated questions in a relatively short period of time, and someone else does considerably worse and takes longer to finish, can we not reasonably assume the first person is more intelligent?
yes, more intelligent when it comes to answering complicated answers over a short period of time; there are many other types of intelligence. I say this as someone who runs good at IQ tests, but I am a complete idiot when it comes to a lot of other things.
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Old 02-20-2009, 04:32 PM   #1141
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I am aware of the theory of multiple intelligences and largely reject it b/c historically intelligence has been measured by sheer brain power and that's the way I like it . If someone has a knack for conversation does that make them 'socially intelligent', or do they just like to talk? It's debatable imo.
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Old 02-20-2009, 04:49 PM   #1142
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i mean,running 100 up to 10k with the 16s as the maximum level
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Old 02-20-2009, 05:04 PM   #1143
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I agree w/ this to a point but by what other standard are we supposed to measure intellect?

If someone excels at answering dozens of complicated questions in a relatively short period of time, and someone else does considerably worse and takes longer to finish, can we not reasonably assume the first person is more intelligent?
**** it, I spent 20 minutes trying to compose my thoughts in a coherent manner but couldn't do it so I won't. Just saying that I did the Cooijman's Intelligence Test Form 2 and scored over 140 and I don't think any sane person would call me a genius. Maybe if I scored like 160 or 170+ then yeah, but at 140-160 you need more than a test score to be considered a genius in my book.
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Eagles how do you know that im mediocre at poker? Ur missing the point, playing the higher stakes requires thinking about the game more and if you have less time to do so its best to stick to mid stakes and crush them for pretty good $$.

I dont think you realize how many guys on this forum wouldnt even be break even at poker if all of the smart PhDs in just 1-2 top companies quit their jobs and focused on thinking about poker all day. The reason that you and many others have crushed the game is all about the competition that you're playing against.

I am 100% sure that if i had more time to think about poker i'd be playing the 550s not the 115s and crushing them as well, but i dont need the moniez and the swings of the game at that level are tough for a guy who has to wake up at 6am everyday and rush to work for a 7am meeting.
Give any PhD in the world as long as they want to learn poker and I would still bet my net worth on Durr or Jman. Assuming the skills to become a smart PHD are the same as being world class at poker is massively flawed.

You could also apply that argument to everythin. Ya your a lawyer but imagine if all the PHD's in the world decided to become lawyers, you'd be ****ed. Logically your argument is ridiculous and proves nothing outside of the fact PHD's are smart. There are a lot of smart people in different fields, assuming that the field you are in has the smartest people is incredibly arrogant. People who are at the top of their field regardless which field it is are all geniuses they just have different skill sets.

Not to mention in poker you want to play people are bad. If you really want you can get into dick waving contests and try to be the best its far more profitable/sensible to play people who suck.

edit: oops just saw your post sry AMT last one I promise

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**** it, I spent 20 minutes trying to compose my thoughts in a coherent manner but couldn't do it so I won't. Just saying that I did the Cooijman's Intelligence Test Form 2 and scored over 140 and I don't think any sane person would call me a genius. Maybe if I scored like 160 or 170+ then yeah, but at 140-160 you need more than a test score to be considered a genius in my book.
This is kinda silly dude. It's not like the results of an IQ test are meant to be the all-encompassing criteria for determining genius. Having a genius-level IQ isn't the same as being a genius, if that makes sense. Einstein is considered a genius because of his profound influence on science and philososphy not because his IQ was whatever it happened to be.

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Old 02-20-2009, 07:22 PM   #1150
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re: PhDs - I could get a PhD in Film relatively easily, but I would beat myself up if I was a Doctor in Film. It's just a title, it shows an amount of time and work put into being called something, if you haven't met a doctor who makes dumb decisions, then you haven't been treated for medical attention in the US.
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