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06-24-2008 , 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by syph3n
Thanks for the video. Anyone know what AHK script is used to cascade the tables on top and then move them to topleft/bottomright/bottomleft upon click and then back to the cascade pile when clicked again?
yeah I like that feature too!!!
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06-28-2008 , 10:25 AM
Made a video while 40-tabling a set of $16 at Stars. Obviously I'm not commenting on any hands, but someone might like to watch it anyway.

It's 290 MB for 54 minutes.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OB3CX09O
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06-28-2008 , 10:53 AM
40 tabling? i gotta see this. downloading now
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06-28-2008 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Quetzo
Made a video while 40-tabling a set of $16 at Stars. Obviously I'm not commenting on any hands, but someone might like to watch it anyway.

It's 290 MB for 54 minutes.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OB3CX09O
Okay, yours is bigger.
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06-28-2008 , 12:11 PM
Can some one tell what I need to watch these videos. I have camstudio but the movie player isn't working. On one i only got sound no picture. And the other one i tried won't even open.

Is there something I need to download?

Thanks
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06-28-2008 , 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Quetzo
Made a video while 40-tabling a set of $16 at Stars. Obviously I'm not commenting on any hands, but someone might like to watch it anyway.

It's 290 MB for 54 minutes.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OB3CX09O
My eyes hurt just watching that for like 1 minute.
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06-28-2008 , 01:57 PM
Quetzo,
Just watched it all. Great vid, thanks for posting.

Props for even being able to do that, let alone being profitable.
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06-28-2008 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Quetzo
Made a video while 40-tabling a set of $16 at Stars. Obviously I'm not commenting on any hands, but someone might like to watch it anyway.

It's 290 MB for 54 minutes.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OB3CX09O
do you normally 40-table?
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06-28-2008 , 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Simplicity8
do you normally 40-table?
Normally I play continuously up to 33 tables, but I been too lazy to grind so lately I tried playing sets and 40 seemed like a nice and round number, but it's probably a bit too high for a maximized hourly.
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07-09-2008 , 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Quetzo
Made a video while 40-tabling a set of $16 at Stars.
That was pretty intense.. Nice work!

Which AHK-scripts do you use?
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07-09-2008 , 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Quetzo
Made a video while 40-tabling a set of $16 at Stars. Obviously I'm not commenting on any hands, but someone might like to watch it anyway.

It's 290 MB for 54 minutes.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OB3CX09O
gonna watch it ASAP - which scripts do you use to handle all those tables ?

have some probs with stars assistant and the stars hotkeys script when i play more then 20 tables
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07-11-2008 , 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RandomRange
That was pretty intense.. Nice work!

Which AHK-scripts do you use?
I make my own scripts so I just make functions for everything I want. It's an ongoing project so can't say right now what it contains and what works and what's buggy.
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07-29-2008 , 01:46 AM
Is there a place where I can find comments for vers' vids?

If not, In vers' sept 28th vid - at 31.41, Is that spot really a call with ATC (on the left table)?
If its not - then what range should we call here?
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07-29-2008 , 06:00 AM
4 tables on Party, $210, $109, $55, $55. Let me know if I suck

http://rapidshare.com/files/13321344...jul08.wmv.html
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07-29-2008 , 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Quetzo
Normally I play continuously up to 33 tables, but I been too lazy to grind so lately I tried playing sets and 40 seemed like a nice and round number, but it's probably a bit too high for a maximized hourly.
Wow man, that is awesome. I just upped my tables from 2 to 4(watch out now, lol). I think the hardest part I will have is really around the midblind portions of the SNGs. I am gonna watch more of this and some others to pick up some tips for that portion in particular. Thanks, awesome videos.
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07-30-2008 , 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by thewran
Is there a place where I can find comments for vers' vids?

If not, In vers' sept 28th vid - at 31.41, Is that spot really a call with ATC (on the left table)?
If its not - then what range should we call here?
I think it is a pretty tough spot. If vers folds the 102s in the BB he is going to be left with 760 after posting the 200 sb next hand, against the dominating big stack, probably putting him all in with ATC. If he folds the SB he is left with the 760 and virtually no fold equity. And even if he does get a decent hand and double up his 760 he will still have only around 4 BB left. 4 handed he only has 2 chances to catch a decent hand if he folds both the blinds.

He might have a few other pieces of information in mind, obviously villain in the sb could be making a basic BvB push, in the last hand villain got shoved off a hand, villain also mentions the last hand in the chat box. I have no idea if vers had any of these things in his mind but they all might lead to him calling a little looser.

Pretty sure he is just assuming villain is pushing ATC in that position and his 102s is worth the gamble against one player, to not lose the 400 (which is ~1/3 of his stack) he put in the BB. The 102s call is +EV as long as villain is shoving over ~60%.

How would you play it?
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07-30-2008 , 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Rupert
4 tables on Party, $210, $109, $55, $55. Let me know if I suck

http://rapidshare.com/files/13321344...jul08.wmv.html
Interesting video.

Pretty funny how soft that $210 was (only 2 other players I recognized), yet at the same time there were 6 other regs I recognized in that $109. Even though it's probably not in my best interests since I play vs you, I guess I should make a few comments since you were nice enough to share the video.
14:30 QQ (top right)
shove river imo

20:45 Q3o (top right)
Funny misread on the action, it seems you thought you were on the button and you ended up min-raising Q3o OOP HU. Worked out in the end though.

21:00 76s (top right)
Not close, brush up on some overcall situations (fwiw the AKo overcall casey berated you about a few days ago was ok tho).

22:00 43o (bottom left)
You might wanna take a look at that one.
Although some of your preflop play would be considered unconventional, I think you are a very good player postflop, there was only a couple of spots I might take different lines. Liked the min-raises and cbet sizing HU as well.

Last edited by IFoldPktOnes; 07-30-2008 at 02:01 AM.
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07-30-2008 , 08:38 AM
Yeah I agree the QQ is a shove in hindsight. Q3o was obviously a misread, lol. Is the 76s an easy fold or an easy call? I ran it through SNG Whiz and it seemed close, probably a fold though? Pretty sure the 34o is a shove no?
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07-30-2008 , 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Rupert
Is the 76s an easy fold or an easy call? I ran it through SNG Whiz and it seemed close, probably a fold though?
Did you enter your stack as 1830 not 1430? I have it as a fold against any ranges in sng wiz. BTN (lovely616) is also fairly nitty from what I remember.

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Pretty sure the 34o is a shove no?
Actually, it's better than I thought it was when I first saw it. Still sort of a meh shove, since the blinds are going to hit the other short stack first.
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07-30-2008 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by LawJik
. The 102s call is +EV as long as villain is shoving over ~60%.

How would you play it?
I agree with that. But when I think about it - that table was pretty crazy. I probably would have tried to fold my way to the money coz the donk factor was ridiculously high - even if it was a $22 game.
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08-08-2008 , 01:21 AM
Download Here

33 minute video of me 4 tabling $2.25s on Full Tilt. I am running PT3 HUD and use a SAGE calculator during heads up.
I start the video off at 50/100 to skip the boring parts, end up finishing 1, 2, 2, 6.

Thanks to everyone who posts, hopefully we can all learn a little.

KJ - Fold? (Have about 10x, still early enough to make standard folds?)
AT - Call? Lead Out? Fold to turn bet?
KJ - Fold? (Same as #1)
A8s - Standard Shove from BTN?
AJ - Fold to shove?
QQ - 22BB Raise or shove pf? Raise more PF(already raised 4x)? Bet after the check on flop? Bet more/less/shove? Call CRAI?
A10s - Basic fold?
88 - Good shove? Villian is 57/22 VPIP/PFR so it seems like a pretty good shove. Like i say in video, J10 is a hand i would expect him to limp/fold to shove there.
A8 - Less than 10x a8 shove? SNGEGT says A8o is +0.0.
Q6s - Shove the flop? I know it was a pretty donkey bet, but it was for value :P
A10 - Not sure why I folded that, stacks were pretty even except for big stack on the bubble. BB was the big stack and pretty loose, calling wide (Calls with A5 next hand)
AQ - Anyone play differently? Obviously I could have shoved, but he calls with everything there and i was kinda worried about a coin flip against a low pair, and a flop might scare him (or a 3 straight board).
A8 - SNGEGT says A8o is +0.5. (A5o is still +0.1) Everyone shoves all the time here?
A7 - shove 100% of the time? +0.4
AT - Obviously call lok. But how often would you guys call an even stacked BvB shove (if jackobannon shoved instead)?
AQ - Anyone calling and folding to a shove on a bad flop?

15:35 about 1/2 of the movie. (Just for reference)

AK - Call shove from button. Anyone folding to avoid a coin flip and maintain stack? His VPIP is 13 and even if he is just shoving that (I think he is shoving more like 25-30% there) it is +2.0. If BTN is shoving 25% is it +3.3. His shove of an A7s is actually at about 13%, so pretty close to his VPIP. So I guess its really standard to call with AK here?
Q9 - Standard fold?
K6s - fold? Its +ev if he is shoving around 60% thats like any Q, any suited J, which I think is pretty wide. Prob outside his range. Would you guys shove K6s if we were SB instead?
KQ - Standard? +0.6
A8s - Everyone calls? If he is pushing 40% (a2+, k2+, q9+) then it is +0.7.
K9s - Limp for implied collusion or shove?
102 - Stupid limp?
AJ - How often do you guys limp with a strong hand, hoping to get shoved over? Only against certain players? (This guy has an insane 14 AF)
55 - Anyone folding?
Q5s - Shove? +0.0
K8o - Shove? No sb, so less to pickup. SNEGT still says +0.3 with no SB.
K5s - Just limp? Maybe just 3x raise here/fold to shove? +0.9 to shove.
A3 - All aces standard in this spot with 12v5bb? +1.2 even if he is calling 100%.
102 - Played this pretty bad. Shove/fold? Only +ev shove if he is calling under 60%, which i think is right here.
A8 - Shove BvB against only stack that will really hurt me? Leak out flop? Bet turn? Call/Raise river? Check down is nitty?
K7 - Everyone shoves? Just raise and fold to re-raise? The shove is +ev at all ranges.
86 - Shove? Blinds are obviously crazy high, shove is +0.2 if he is calling 100%.
AQs - 3x? Fold to re-raise?
98 - fold?
Q9 - Probably should have shipped that preflop. I saw it as a good spot to give a slight table image of not push/folding everything. Kind of hand I want to see a flop with, can commit to or get away from most flops.
KQs - Limp? Should i raise or fold pf? Both are ok? Re-raise flop maybe or calls are fine to keep pot small this early? Call/Raise/Fold 90 on turn?
99 - Limp to set mine (especially now that we spewed off some chips on that table) or 3x? 3x 10s or JJ?


Random Side Notes:
I am going to try to upload to a site where you can watch it online, but I want the quality to be good enough (Not pokertube/youtube). Any recommendations would be great. (resolution is 1280x1024. filesize is 216mb)

Who else hates the new exit window? Can anyone disable it?

Anyone using SNGEGT and Full Tilt mods?

I kind of space out at the end for a minute or two into my next set....

Last edited by LawJik; 08-08-2008 at 01:35 AM.
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08-08-2008 , 09:13 AM
I uploaded the video to Viddler, quality is kind of iffy. You can easily make out the cards and stack sizes, but the HUD is pretty hard to read.

http://www.viddler.com/explore/LawJik/videos/1/

Click Menu, Full Size (top right), Menu, to make the video full screen.

Again if anyone has any ideas of some other video sharing site with better quality I will re-upload it there.

Last edited by LawJik; 08-08-2008 at 09:43 AM.
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08-08-2008 , 10:04 AM
Can't see stack sizes in the viddler version, so won't be able to provide very useful opinions.

Couple of things I noticed though...

QQ hand raise vs. shove - Couldn't see the stack size, but it looked there might have been enough in the pot already to make a shove worthwhile. As played, I would probably check behind on that flop, as it's too easy for him to CRAI behind your c/bet, but I also couldn't see your stacksizes, so if you had enough for a comfortable c/bet then I guess it's fine too, but I'd still just check behind and see what the turn brings.

88 shove vs. bigstack limper - Fine imo, but I wouldn't get too surprised to get called by JT. Have you seen him limp and then fold to a shove before?

I liked the Stop N Go with AQ, but a shove probably would have been fine as well. Again, could really make out stack sizes.

A8 with 4BB, yeah autoship it imo.

New window on FT - check the box in the window and it will close the game when it finishes.

Why limp in with a 36o? Just fold it imo.

Will try to watch the rest later. May want to speak up a bit as well, as it's hard to hear you in some spots.
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08-08-2008 , 03:36 PM
I started this as my own post cause I thought it might get lengthy, mod moved it here, sry if this is to much content for this post, but apparently it has to be here.

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Originally Posted by Doublez-Down
Can't see stack sizes in the viddler version, so won't be able to provide very useful opinions.

Couple of things I noticed though...

QQ hand raise vs. shove - Couldn't see the stack size, but it looked there might have been enough in the pot already to make a shove worthwhile. As played, I would probably check behind on that flop, as it's too easy for him to CRAI behind your c/bet, but I also couldn't see your stacksizes, so if you had enough for a comfortable c/bet then I guess it's fine too, but I'd still just check behind and see what the turn brings.

I liked the Stop N Go with AQ, but a shove probably would have been fine as well. Again, could really make out stack sizes.
On Viddler, did you try viewing it in full screen? (Click Menu, Full Size (top right), Menu again, to make the video full screen and remove the frame.)

QQ was definitely a tough spot, talked to another friend of mine about it today.

Full Tilt Poker $2 + $0.25 Sit & Go (Turbo) No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t60/t120 Blinds - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: t2430
UTG: t2745
UTG+1: t1030
MP1: t1380
MP2: t700
CO: t1440
Hero (BTN): t2785
SB: t990

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN with Q Q
UTG calls t120, 1 fold, MP1 calls t120, 2 folds, Hero raises to t480, 2 folds, UTG calls t360, 1 fold

Flop: (t1260) T 7 A (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets t800, UTG raises to t2265 all in, Hero cries.. then folds

As you can see, he is one the the two stacks that can really hurt me. He was 59/6/1.5 VPIP/PFR/AF, obviously a little loose, but you would think he would need an ace, Kd, or an already made flush to pull that move over my almost 3/4 pot bet.

When it comes around to me preflop, there is 420 in the pot and I have 2800. So I guess I could have shoved, but i figure on most flops I have a good chance of him leading out, and me shoving over and gaining some extra chips. I think he is folding PF to a shove, but hard to tell.

Now that you mention it, checking behind him on the flop makes alot of sense. I get to see a free card and how he acts on the turn, but I don't think id call that an easy place to CRAI. What would you CRAI there with?


Full Tilt Poker $2 + $0.25 Sit & Go (Turbo) No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t150/t300 Blinds - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP: t1545
CO: t2590
BTN: t3365
SB: t1900
Hero (BB): t1290
UTG: t2810

Pre Flop: Hero is BB with A Q
3 folds, BTN raises to t600, 1 fold, Hero calls t300

Flop: (t1350) 6 7 5 (2 players)
Hero bets t690 all in, BTN folds


I was pumped the AQ stop and go worked, have only had a few opportunities to pull it off. Pretty much I am worried about a small pair (or maybe KJ/Q10 kinds of hands) preflop after that min-raise by villian. I figure he is calling 100% of the time if I shove my 690 chips over his raise, and I have a better chance of him folding on the flop (even if I don't hit anything) when I shove the flop. But like you said AQ is a really good hand, and I could just shove it for value and hope to win a coin flip.

Last edited by LawJik; 08-08-2008 at 03:47 PM.
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08-19-2008 , 11:48 AM
Law,
00:41 - ATo I prefer to shove.
01:54 - A8s is a snap-shove and you shouldn't even think about it
01:54 - AJo is a snap-shove (over his shove).
02:57 - QQ I shove or raise more PF with two limpers. / as played i check behind flop
03:45 - KJo I probably open fold
05:20 - Qx or w/e was a horrible fold. shove this always. ATC here.


bah i tried to rewind to go over a hand and for some reason your vid won't let me rewind/fast-forward at all without killing the video... I'll finish reviewing if I can get it to work again.
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