no thanks

Lol that would be horrible... No thanks.
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When will we have the hability to have different game formats under the same filter? Will we have to wait for Pokerstars 7 to come out to have that? Or will it be introduced sooner? Kind regards.

god plz stop tryingtomake everything hypers for the love of god, every hyper reg wants everything to be hypers, i play all formats reg turbo and plan to move to hypers so im not biased either way however not everyone wants to play damn hypers 18s arent what they used to be they dont havethe player pool to be split further imo...if we get a influx of players eg usa or sumthing crazy like that yea sure add them but sngs outside of 8 hour window are struggling, DO NOT ADD 18m hypers untill the player pool is there

First off, +1 to the all-in flipament for the BOP. Although I have never qualified, being the fish that I am, I don’t think I would ever play the shootout.

Second, I’ve been wanting to post this for a little while, and it has to do with the rake at the $1.50 regular speed, 9 man STTs.

Here is the rake %, as well as the payouts for each level in terms of the number of buy-ins (total cost):
Total
Cost rake % 1st 2nd 3rd
$1.50 14.00 3.873 2.320 1.547
$3.50 11.14 4.003 2.397 1.597
$7.00 9.00 4.097 2.456 1.637
$15.00 8.67 4.110 2.466 1.644

The lowest level, $1.50, is the only stake in which the winner receives less than four times their initial buy-in. I would think this is opposite of what both Poker Stars and the players would want, as the players are unable to stick around for as long if they fail to cash in their next three games. The extra money isn’t even enough for a full buy-in at $2 NL.

The rake difference is also huge between the lowest two levels, jumping from 11.1% at the $3.50 level to 14.0% at the $1.50 level.

To see the winner receive 4x their buy-in while retaining the same payout structure (50, 30, 20), the rake would have to be reduced by 4 cents a player (from 21 cents to 17 cents), changing the % of rake to 11.33. I realize that a decrease of 4 cents is nearly a 20% decrease, which is a huge number (percentage-wise only), and will likely never happen.

If the rake were to be dropped by only 2 cents, the winner may not receive 4x their buy-in, but it would be much closer at 3.93 times, and the rake as a % would be 12.67%, still higher than the other levels, but still an improvement.

Hello all,

This week’s Q&A:

We have been working on this this feature for some time, but unfortunately there have been some quite persistent bugs to deal with. As soon as everything is ironed out, we will release it, but I can't give a timeline at this moment.

I can understand that it is desirable to realize EV without having to show up for the tournament, but this is not a change we are going to make.

I know that the BotP freeroll is not the most popular promotion we run for our players, so we are considering removing it altogether and putting all the money into SNG specific promotions directed at recreational players. No decision has been made on this, however.

We don't have a fixed release date for this yet, but we would be disappointed if it is not released to the public in the first half of 2014.

Thanks,
Baard

99,99% of players in the $1.50 level do not pay attention to rake.

You're probably right, but that wasn't the point. The main point was that winners of $1.50 9-man sngs win fewer buy-ins than any other level, allowing them to play fewer games if they lose a couple in a row.

So while I agree that they don't necessarily pay attention to the rake, they will notice that they cannot afford to buy in to as many tournaments.

As a side note, you could also argue that none of the players at $2 or $5 NL pay attention to the rake, but players still fought to get that rake lowered. Why are STTs any different?

Don't remove it please. It's one of the only shootout mtt's out there on the month and I love that format!

Regs need the BOP promotion that includes that freeroll to put in insane amounts of volume every week. I can talk for myself, I wouldn't play even half the volume I put everyday if it wasn't for the Battle of Planets. Keep it that way please. Ty

Golden Sngs are cool an all... but bring back happy hours! Switch up the promo. ran golden sngs x3 and happy hour once only

Can you give some clarification for not even considering it? Are you not happy with the success of the promo? I'd think a promotion where there is some sort of rec (low volume) and reg (high volume) leaderboard of SNGs and top x finishers each week get a freeroll ticket to a lottery all in MTT is a promo for recreational players.

-1, Golden is a far superior promo as it runs longer and overall provides more value in terms of rake returned with overall softer games. I also don't have to try to be awake for certain hours.

A general issue: All stars-links direct me to stars mainpage, since they're aiming at pokerstars.com/xyz, and I'm just being redirected to http://www.pokerstars.eu/de/
Is this me or stars? For the first case: Any idea how to fix that?

softer games ?

games are much much harded, and value is non existant. 3000$ per hour of promo, assuming ONLY 1000 players play thats extra 3$/h, and there are more players playing per hour than that, waaaaaay more

u cant fix that, they are sending .com links and everyone from eu gets redirected to eu main page/ or regional page. You have to delete .com by hand and insert eu to get a working link ... they have that issue for years now

This. I thought that one was a no-brainer, but hey what do I know.

Can you give more explanation? If EV were held constant, I'm pretty sure a huge majority of people would prefer to not have to play it out (over 90%). Very important: Being more preferable means that this (shootout) reward is a greater incentive for other people (a greater reinforcement for their behavior).

It should also be noted the EV is the same, Stars gives the same amount of $ either way, all this is doing is disenfranchising people that cannot show up (or cannot be bothered to play). Also remember that timezones etc. can come into play too.

IMO, current system is not as good as if it was just a small all in shootout every week.

According to my calculations BOP costs Stars 3,3 million.

Imo:

-Scrap the dollar prizes
-Make the freeroll all in shootout, make it a monthly 150k or something
-obv reward more tickets, I'd suggest top 50-45-40-35-30-25-20-10 moving from micros to high stakes leaderboards

Use rest of maneys for SNG lottery weeks

Pretty obv reason Stars wants people online and playing to realize eq instead of being able to do it logged off.

I love the BOP shootout! Its great. The shootout format it forces sng players to take a gamble for a change which is nice!! The structure and prizes are sound.
Doesnt make sense its on Sundays and once a month. Plenty of sng players avoid weekends because they have commitments and its their time off, otherwise they would be playing mtts... Sundays I dont even mind having to play but once a month is too forgettable.. you get tickets on Monday so its not like you go yaay I can play my freeroll now, it just slips your mind

Baard your rhetoric of not having to show up for the tournament strikes deep. Many people would love to play out their tickets immediately but its too infrequent. People would prefer to realise the EV of their ticket without playing only because the other option is to play once a month; this is the only available point of reference.

Would totally be down for a bop 1r 1a regspeed regfest 150k to help the backlog

You could make BOP a 2+ entry tourney (with your stacks merging if you go deep enough with multiple entries).

What better way to bring them out than give them a freeroll that day.

These promos arent Stars rewarding their customers or fairly trying to redistribute rake in the most convenient way. Theyre marketing/PR pure and simple and designed to give Stars the biggest ROI for their buck.

Change it to EV ldo

BOTP is fun.

Please keep it,

its a pretty unique format. Occationally during the series' we get other shootouts,

but id like some shootouts added into the normal schedule too!

Edit:

and this is coming from someone who has min cashed it once in 2 years - and I still want the shootout kept the same!

This. Forcing people to be logged in to play a tourney, then almost for sure those people will play more games while playing that tourney (good for pokerstars)

Lololololololol. Says the guy who's never online Sunday when the thing runs and hasn't played one in a long time. Forgot it was shootout!!!

any reason 6m hypers missing from the lobby?