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06-18-2013 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Joshfan
I'm a nit because i don't like being disoriented while mass tabling sngs?

Ok then.
it will happen like 1/250 SNGs or something, tough life lol. Also just something (rather intuitive) you should consider with my massive sample size of 2 golden SNGs, there's deff value in know you're in a golden SNG. Recs and even some regs play different in a significant matter. Since it could be for a lot of monays too, it might be worth a little eye cancer .
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06-18-2013 , 03:14 PM
pisssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
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06-18-2013 , 03:24 PM
I would just prefer the option of the table not being gold, if i had the option to make just the rim of the table gold, that would be perfect for me.
I got 2 golden sngs yesterday on my old client, and knew fairly quickly they were golden sngs through chat, so I don't mind using the old client.
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06-18-2013 , 04:21 PM
Thin

Last edited by slayerv1fan; 06-18-2013 at 04:23 PM. Reason: 0 in >500 games (rain)
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06-18-2013 , 04:25 PM
I have played more games than you though, and mine pay more rake so have a higher chance of hitting. but 3 total is def likely above ev.
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06-18-2013 , 04:45 PM
Haha obv, was just messin with ya
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06-18-2013 , 05:18 PM
Hello all,

Some more questions to reply to this week:

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Originally Posted by UnnaturalDisaster
As someone who plays more omaha sngs than anyone when I look back at omaha week and the happy hour promotion one thing I noticed was that no matter what time of day happy hour was the games were running in full force even during low traffic times where generally very few games would run. So my question is why not have an happy hour everyday for sngs and place it during a really low traffic time of day. Wouldn't the amount of traffic it would bring in during normally dead times make up for what you are losing giving up the extra 0.5 vpp?
Thank you for the suggestion. While I agree that Happy Hours create a significant increase in traffic when we offer them, I am not so sure that the same would be the case it we offered them every day. In addition to that, our ongoing promotions like Battle of the Planets would end up being under-appreciated. We prefer to keep things fresh and interesting, and hopefully new promotions like the Golden Sit & Go’s contribute to that.

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Originally Posted by Mecastyles
so basically status quo is more important then demand?
if ur afraid about liquidity just axe 45man turbos or9man ko's or either the 18man nonturbo or 27man nonturbo, or all. completely useless tournaments that serve no niche whatsoever.
You can just qoute me and tell me that your just too afraid to make changes, rather then some vague arguments that do not make sense.
BOP also changes the dynamic of regular sit and goes, so not sure what u mean by this. And happy hours have run for HU sngs, about the last sng type this part of the community cares about, and also the most alive form in terms of money because you play with the fish all alone hu frequently and thus also a low conversion of deposits to rake.
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Originally Posted by Mecastyles
tell me how many 45mans there run on one day
how many 9man KOs
18man nonturbos
27man nonturbos
in the $10---> inf buyin range
and then try to convince you these games deserve to be in the lobby
$15 9 Max KO Regular Speed has an average of over 1,000 unique players per week and the Turbo has over 4,500. The $15 45 player tournament serves about 10K players per week and the $30 well over 1,000. The $15 27 player regular speed tournaments have an average of about 2,000 players per week, and even the regular speed 18 player tournament have about 1,500 weekly players.

Many of these players would be displeased if we removed their preferred game type.

Thanks,
Baard
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06-19-2013 , 12:14 AM
now tell me how much for 18man turbo

and realize how weird you are being.
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06-19-2013 , 05:04 AM
now dance. dance for me, baard.
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06-19-2013 , 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by jdawg91
SNG happy hour imo, maybe during offpeak time, would create solid-good traffic during that usually deadish time block
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Originally Posted by HorvatH
Golden SNGs are really cool but i was hoping for something permanent. I'd be really happy if this promo could continue even at the cost of retreating BOP and some smaller rewards per game.

Good job PS
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Originally Posted by entim
some people don't have the patience or knowledge to understand what their fpp means. if you're going to make sng happy hour, don't award with rakeback. people have already a hard time imagining their online poker money is real. telling them its points instead of money isn't helping.
golden sitngo hour?
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06-19-2013 , 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Alex Wice
now dance. dance for me, baard.
I mean he knows the demand is there, its just unbelievable that liquidity for games that barely have players is more important, and by the way if they really like that particular niche, which i ****** doubt tehy will keep playing one of the games that u keep ( a nonturbo), then giving in to the demand in another game like another multitable turbo format with a flat structure or the first hyper format with a flat payout structure.
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06-19-2013 , 08:57 AM
im done making my point, please dont pat urself on the back when u implement them a year from now
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06-19-2013 , 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecastyles
I mean he knows the demand is there, its just unbelievable that liquidity for games that barely have players is more important, and by the way if they really like that particular niche, which i ****** doubt tehy will keep playing one of the games that u keep ( a nonturbo), then giving in to the demand in another game like another multitable turbo format with a flat structure or the first hyper format with a flat payout structure.
Hello,

The games I mentioned have a total of about 20K weekly players. I don't agree that you can call that insignificant. You may or may not be correct that there are more players than that who want the changes that you are suggesting, but our goal is to have a broad offering where everyone can find a game they like. And to do that, we can't just cut games the way you want to do.

Thanks
Baard
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06-19-2013 , 10:31 AM
As usual, satellite SNGs are ineligible from your promotion. hyper sat regs are literally the only group of players that get no special promotions from the site, ever. This despite probably being the game that has the highest percentage of regular players, which keeps the sats running all the time and keeps filling the MTTs. Any explanation besides the "everyone benefits from promotions for rec players" line? The sats are virtually unbeatable these days.
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06-19-2013 , 10:46 AM
Hello people,

Why don't we introduce shootout tournaments? We only have the BOP tournament being shootout and there's no more shootouts anywhere to play! DO something, we want to play shootouts!
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06-19-2013 , 11:21 AM
Soooooooooo... antes?
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06-19-2013 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Baard
Hello,

The games I mentioned have a total of about 20K weekly players. I don't agree that you can call that insignificant. You may or may not be correct that there are more players than that who want the changes that you are suggesting, but our goal is to have a broad offering where everyone can find a game they like. And to do that, we can't just cut games the way you want to do.

Thanks
Baard
not syaing you have to cut the games at all, its possible but not needed at all, the demand in all ur nichgames which essentailly cater the same playertype (the nonturbo rec) is just very low if u compare it with a turbo multitable format
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06-19-2013 , 11:34 AM
talking to a wall about everything in here tho disconnection timebank/bop/structure/offerings so ill just quit posting
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06-19-2013 , 04:57 PM
Love that my post was skipped over when I provided a viable way for 50/50s to get included, because we got included in one promo for the first time ever does not mean we are not getting the shaft.
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06-19-2013 , 05:33 PM
The Golden SNG Promotion this week is something that should be highly considered for the future of SNG promotions.
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06-19-2013 , 05:42 PM
Well I just logged on to play and realized the hyper satelites are completely dead during this promotion. It's bad enough we don't get the rewards but now we can't play at all. Not sure if I'll keep SNE now as I have 50K VPPs to get this month or my 5 year streak is over. Not going to learn another game just b/c of this promo.
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06-19-2013 , 06:18 PM
Firstly, I understand your frustration, I really do, but I think you are overreacting a bit.

Secondly, lets remember Pokerstars doesn't have any obligation to keep a game running it can do whatever the **** it wants. It has an obvious interest to cathering to what will make them the most money, but if in the end they just don't like something they can just destroy it and be done with it, see DoNs as an example and I'm sure there are others. There were a lot of DON SNEs and the skills didn't necessarily translate directly into 5050s or w/e.

Now, you complain about the thing that promos don't exist for satellites. I kind of disagree. What is the goal of a promotion? I think there are 2 main goals for a promotion
1. Get new players to try out the game/get players to play the game more
2. Reward players for playing the game

If you seriously think you are getting shafted at 1 you are a bit crazy imo sorry . Pokerstars its whole MTT system is built around satellites, and I'm sure you'll agree the weeks of major tournament series are the most exciting times for Satellite regs since there is a huge increase in both volume and players playing the game.

Number 2 is deff a bit more difficult to argue but I would say that the way FPPs work is very much a combination of a satellite and MTT promotion since unless you're a SNE you're getting no value for your FPPs unless you spend them on satellites or MTTs. I know that before I started earning decents amounts of FPPs I was spending them on satellites and I know a lot of people that do the same. There is also the fact that you guys get the best FPP conversion rate out of everyone there since you're specialised in the game that offers the best FPP conversion rate.

Once again I understand your frustration but saying satellites get ****ed over by Pokerstars over and over again is a bit crazy, at least from my point of view.
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06-19-2013 , 07:56 PM
bbfg- The tourney series aren't promotions, and neither are FPPs. That's grasping at straws. Stars doesn't put money into the games with the tourney series. They are making tons of money from the tourney series, which I help reach their guarantees by keeping the sats running.

Your point about FPPs is completely irrelevant because satelite regs don't play the FPP satellites because they don't give you VPPs. In fact, the FPP satellites actually hurt me because that's a player that might have played in my games instead.

Basically you're trying to mask MTT series and FPPs as promotions. I mean, what? I'm talking about actual promotions. Bonuses. Money. I'm not saying nothing ever good happens to sat players. But there are never any promotions for us, ever.

And I realize Stars can do whatever the **** it wants. The SNE program has benefited me possibly more than any other player, but that doesn't mean I don't have a right to complain about this.
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06-20-2013 , 10:35 AM
Remove t20 level in turbos. plz. Cause I can imagine for somebody 1 tabling it must be boring as ****. Also everybody would be able to play more sngs per hour.
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06-20-2013 , 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by mato4
Remove t20 level in turbos. plz. Cause I can imagine for somebody 1 tabling it must be boring as ****. Also everybody would be able to play more sngs per hour.
No! Just add antes ffs.
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