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04-26-2013 , 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by belthazorrrrr
^^ Lol at this decrease first by 5 and second to 20 secs
Your reply seems drunk, I can not even understand what you said.
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04-30-2013 , 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by cdjim
Baard,

With the greatest respect, I think you might be in the wrong job.

If you really believe that happy hours during promos for Omaha (Great promo overall) and HU games with Haxton can in any way be regarded as a promo targetted to recreationals (that you claim are your primary targets) or as a serious SnG promo even for regulars, then you are either severely out of touch with your customer base or completely deluded.

I am pretty much sure that I can count on the fingers of one hand how many recreationals decided to play SnGs because they could earn an additional 1 or 2 VPPs on the 1 or 2 games that they might play. It simply is no incentive to them, Omania week though was a well thought out promo for the recreational and I am sure it created more traffic for Omaha and should be replicated in the future for as many poker variants as possible. Stud Week, Hold em Knockout week, Hold em Turbo week etc.
We did review the uplift during happy hours broken down by VIP Status. It turns out that even we were surprised at how effective it was at motivating lower VIP statuses to try Omaha.

I agree it that the happy hours element of those promotions was the more regular-friendly element. It was also the glue that held both promotions together and made them possible, even if other elements were more cleanly targeted at recreational players.

In any case, you'll see a new SNG promotion in the next couple of months that will include all types of SNGs. I hope you'll agree that it targets recreational players effectively while still benefiting regulars.



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Originally Posted by piteiracorp
why dont u make a big (with lot publicity) survey about SNG games and every user that completes it will get tourney/sng ticket ? that way u could have a clue about the recreationals opinion, cause thats what seems to be controversial discussing here even tho we (regs) prob represent +50% of your rake gain on SNG.
We do conduct surveys regularly but it is not appropriate to make a survey available to everyone. We select appropriate representative subsets of our player base so that we can draw more firm conclusions from the results. We also hold focus groups from time to time.

We don't consider 2+2 to be a good source of insight into recreational player opinion.

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Originally Posted by michty6
27 man turbos got a lot of support in the MTT SNG suggestions thread. Now they have a lot of support in this one too. Come on Stars.
In general, the faster the SNG, the more it runs. Whatever support 27s would get as turbos they would probably get even more as hypers. However, we do want to keep a good balance of offering. If we offered all our our SNGs at all speeds, the situation might not be so pretty. I can understand the frustration of those who prefer faster speeds of the specific formats that are still offered only at slower speeds. We do expect to slowly migrate towards faster speeds, but not quite yet for 27s.

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Originally Posted by Dochrohan
Increase turbo time bank by 5 seconds and decrease reg speed timebank by 10 seconds.
I don't see any consensus here about time bank modifications, but we are happy to monitor and consider any such conversations.


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Originally Posted by piteiracorp
this thread is +1yo with ~1500 posts and not much has changed ever since, the title is caps on wrong word imo, try Official PokerStars STT SUGGESTION Thread.
Here are some of the things we have changed:

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Originally Posted by PokerStars Baard
Hello,
We will be adding [$15 9-max hypers] very soon. If not today, then it should be tomorrow if nothing unforeseen comes up.
Baard
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Baard
I have now deployed $1.50, $3.50 and $7 6 Max NLO8 Hypers.
Enjoy!
Baard
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Baard
The $300 Turbo Fifty50 is now up in the client. Rake% is lower than for the $200, yes.
Enjoy!
Baard
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Baard
Hello,
I have another Q&A thread coming up shortly, but just wanted to tell you that I have just deployed the $60 9 max hyper's. We are also keeping the $100's.
Thanks,
Baard
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Baard
Well, we have been hard at work even if we haven’t replied in the thread for a while. There is now a full complement of 9 Max Hypers up to and including the $100s.

I have just deployed $15s and $30s [NLO/8 Hypers], and if they are successful we will consider deploying $60s and $100s as well.
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Baard
After looking at the numbers, I have now added a second lobby to all 6 Max NLO8 stakes. In addition, I have reduced the PLO lobbies to one.
I have now added $300 and $500 6 Max Hypers
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Baard
As I am posting this, I am removing all Hypers from the Turbo lobby. It might take some time before they are all gone, but all newly spawned Hypers will from now on not be mixed in with the Turbo Sit&Gos.
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Baard
After giving it some more thought, I will deploy a $500 Fifty50 shortly as a trial for a month or so. If it turns out that it has a negative effect on the liquidity, I might remove it at any time during this period.
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Baard
I have been looking at the numbers, and you are definitely right that the $100s are running a lot more frequently of late. I will deploy some $200s [9-max NLHE hypers] and see how they do.
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Baard
The NL08 Hyper volume is growing steadily, and as a consequence of this we have decided to deploy a complete offering up to $500s. They should be available in the lobby by the time you are reading this.
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Baard
I have now deployed the $500, 18 man tournament. Let's see how it goes.

Baard will be back with a post in the first half of next week.
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04-30-2013 , 06:06 AM
Steve or Baard, why not experiment with the timebank on one format/one stake(or a combination of both) so you can get some nice numbers on wether it impacts the retention rate of recreationals? Have you guys tried something like that in recent years? Imagine how much money you guys could save if the average recreational would spend more money/time on your site with a costless change like this... There is no denying that SNGs suffer a lot from lolslow regs simply because it is a format that requires a minimal amount of actions per hand and gives lotsa VPPs therefore is very good for masstabling.


I'm sure I don't have the best ideas on how to exactly change with the timebank but here is a simple proposal:

Time to act: -15%
Extra timebank: -40%
Add the seconds removed to a disconnect time bank that can only activate when your connection is lost
If the disconnect timebank is emptied completely, refill the extra timebank ONCE/game

A lot of people seem to be of the opinion that lowering the timebank would be good for the rec experience, yet it doesn't seem like Pokerstars shares this opinion? Do you guys have anything to back this up? And if no, why not experiment a bit with it ?
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04-30-2013 , 06:32 AM
adding obv games is not rly an accomplishment
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04-30-2013 , 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecastyles
adding obv games is not rly an accomplishment
Totally spot on, those games were like mandatory add-ons. Just because you think clicking a few buttons, adding them on to the site and having a tad change of your previous site does not make it a great change. You guys are really too scared to do anything because you have a huge % of the market, however, those people really are not going anywhere because you change a time-bank or a little bit of game structure.
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04-30-2013 , 12:30 PM
what about 5050 hypers? those would prolly egt alot of attn from everyone
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04-30-2013 , 07:04 PM
Can we have $1k fifty50s please?
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04-30-2013 , 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by PS ICANTSNG
Can we have $1k fifty50s please?
you can have that when we have 1k and 2k 6m hypers
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04-30-2013 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jdawg91
you can have that when we have 1k and 2k 6m hypers
Stars will have to make a new VIP level for 10million the day they release those, come on you get scoop sats
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05-01-2013 , 05:52 AM
Can we have 6max hyper DoNs, or you decided to never have DoN format on ps again? Sorry if already being discussed, didn't find it..
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05-01-2013 , 06:49 AM
They are never gonna have DoN EVER again (collusion-hell).
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05-01-2013 , 08:15 AM
I am really interested in their reasons for quitting DoNs permanently, having DoNs means more SNE chasers.. maybe they became NO- PROFIT organization
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05-01-2013 , 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Fran
I am really interested in their reasons for quitting DoNs permanently, having DoNs means more SNE chasers.. maybe they became NO- PROFIT organization
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Originally Posted by Sauron92
collusion-hell.
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05-01-2013 , 09:27 AM
Still highly think time-banks should be looked into. Regular speeds are dying and time-banks of 60 seconds certainly are not helping them out.

Another recommendation is to improve the SNG section of the VIP store.

Also can anyone tell me why we have Euro tables at low/micros, but, higher than that we have nothing but US? How about killing them or adding some to the higher stakes.
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05-01-2013 , 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Sauron92
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05-01-2013 , 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by jdawg91
you can have that when we have 1k and 2k 6m hypers
puke
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05-01-2013 , 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Sauron92
They are never gonna have DoN EVER again (collusion-hell).
collusion is actually way harder to prove in f50s...

I think pokerstars dropped the ball in investigating dons because its pretty easy to see the collusion where as a slightly different x% ranges in push and call to favour someone in f50s is way harder to catch.

Also, alot of the russians and czechs have gotten a penalty for staking eachother and playing with multiple people in the same games if I am correct.

I would like to hear an official statement about this, and why they are not banned, or why there is not an extra investigation about their play. I'm pretty certain these countries have been colluding in these f50s and I would vote for a 2 person per country max in these games as collusion is very very hard to prove without in depth statisical analsyis

however, u can guess ur getting colluded if u play with 4 russians and 4 czechs backed by the same russian or same czech. Pokerstars, I thought you would have known better after ur chinese nightmare in f50s (whcih was actually very easy to prove). DONS > F50s in terms of collusion problems im pretty sure..., the effect is bigger but the proving is easier.


oh and plz dont quote me and tell me to talk to a security manager, i want this problem public.
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05-01-2013 , 01:11 PM
6 max fifty50s would be kinda cool actually
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05-01-2013 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Fran
Can we have 6max hyper DoNs, or you decided to never have DoN format on ps again? Sorry if already being discussed, didn't find it..
lol are u been serious or what
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05-01-2013 , 03:00 PM
I'll move to mexico if you make 65/35 3 max turbo deepstacks (hear me out please ), run them upto the moon imo... 2 good regs can make money versus a fishy sne reg (not referring to anyone ITT). The good husng regs would have a crack in these too, so maybe some of the guys who moved out of SNGs to HUSNG will play these at high stakes.

Last edited by Regret$; 05-01-2013 at 03:06 PM.
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05-01-2013 , 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Regret$
I'll move to mexico if you make 65/35 3 max turbo deepstacks (hear me out please ), run them upto the moon imo... 2 good regs can make money versus a fishy sne reg (not referring to anyone ITT). The good husng regs would have a crack in these too, so maybe some of the guys who moved out of SNGs to HUSNG will play these at high stakes.
3max now there is an idea if we had huge volume of players I'd totally agree but since we don't if hate to split player pool of turbo stts any further
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05-01-2013 , 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by PS ICANTSNG
3max now there is an idea if we had huge volume of players I'd totally agree but since we don't if hate to split player pool of turbo stts any further
Talking with other guys they thought collusion would be too big of a pain for stars on these..
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05-01-2013 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Regret$
Talking with other guys they thought collusion would be too big of a pain for stars on these..
You'd def ban Russians from siting more then 1 player that's for sure
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05-01-2013 , 08:51 PM
Those would def have to be WTA.
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05-07-2013 , 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Baard
We always welcome suggestions for new promotions in the Sit&Go threads. If you can come up with good promotions that a) focus on recreational players and b) are not of a permanent nature (like BotP), we are all ears.

Perhaps a month long raffle system where players get a chance to win prizes from the VIP store for every Sng they register in. The more they play the more chances they have to win, with the main prize being a PS Porsche.

This way every one has a chance, the recs and the regs. The regs still have better odds because they will play more but the recs will also have a great shot at it unlike BotP since it's the luck of the draw.

This type of promotion is something that any player, regardless of skill level and from anywhere in the world can understand and get incentivized by to play more.
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