I think fish like KOs because they have a larger % chance to cash, even if its just a bounty.

Imo it all comes down to what games the regs are pre-registering to. Most fish jump into the games that seem to go of first. 30/18mans NLO8 are the
perfect example, sometimes we wait hours to get one going... Then after the
critical mass of 7-8 ppl registered is reached it goes of fairly quick.

I did not read all the thread, has Star said why they don't add more hyper (60$, 200$, 300$, ...) ?

SNG volume will be down over the last three months or so as that is the usual seasonal trend at this time of year. Zoom has also had an impact recently as well. I checked the volumes since the start of the year and 9-max regular speed is above average compared to the general trend.

Steve

higher stakes F50s plzzzzz Wal!

Nobody there seems to care about steps, why would stars not discuss the issue with players that are interested but insist on it being discussed in specific forums? Maybe you can ask your MTT pendant to look into this thread for a short round on steps?

(unsure if its been asked)

Steve, can you fix the game starting times for HU Hypers SNG -- do not think we need 15 seconds until match starts... Can you cut it to 8 seconds? Well atleast from the $30 and below since it's a non-stop register.

I've cut it to 10 seconds. The change should take effect immediately.

When can we play higher stakes 6 max hypers? Need to plan for SNE and how many vacations can take for WSOP, holidays etc soon.

Please add 15 dollar 9m hypers. Ill be your best friend

lol, this ^

been loading every 30$ during 7$ session and usually it averages 4 games/hour :e would be nice to move above 8.50$ abi...

You must be playing at really slow times then. You can get at least 15 an hour in during peak times and 10 morning and early evening (pacific time). Ive played 700 this month so far and missed the first 3 days of the month.

I think if they added 15s youd be able to 16-20 table 15-30s during most of the day.

yes i do usually quit before peak time starts (about 20cet/14et i'd guess)

but i do believe if 15$ were introduced i could play them during any time of the day with decent to good volume

As far as hyper traffic goes (and not the effect on other games), I think $15 9-max and $60 6-max make the most sense to add. Though I'm personally happy with keeping things as is.

^Im happy with you not being in my games the last week

I agree those two buyins should be the next added.

As someone who plays $30 hypers still, I am not sure adding $60s is the way to go. People talk about a good volume they can achieve at $100s but honestly that is only some of the time -- even $30s are slow at times. If you add $60s it might be people that prefer to play $70s will now choose $60 instead of choosing $100s, and in general just further segmenting the player pool.

For lower stakes this is okay because it is hard to have games that don't run, but as we saw with eg. they added PLO hypers which don't run... it could be damaging to split the buyins, so I think they should be cautious.

Alex Wice, are u serious ?! I can't see where is the problem to add more hyper... And please PLO hypers are not NL hypers, so you can't compare.

If they add $60, you can mix the $30 and the $60 and the $100 regs can mix too.

Don't add more hypers in the future, will be a joke. What happens in 1 year ? All the good regs who are now playing the $15, $30 or $100, will be playing the $100, reg infested, we can't move up, enjoy your 0,5 % roi and your great downswings.

I hope for pokerstars that they will make something before full tilt is back in business otherwise I (and I think a lot of hypers regs) go back to the super turbo ftp who you can play without problem from $1 to $1000

So if the 30s pretty much always run, and there are times that the 100s dont run, wouldnt it make sense to have another bi level between the 30s and 100s for those slow times? Its not like those guys will play 60s instead of 100s, theyll play 60s in addition to 100s. There are certain guys who grind 100s who will never add 30s to a sess because its too low of a buyin. There are also guys who grind 30s who will never add 100s because its too high of a buyin. But both of these players may add 60s.

You seem to be assuming that there are only x number of players looking to register for x number of hypers each at any one time. I think adding another bi level with increase the number of games a lot of people reg for. Or might drop the 30 traffic a little bit but make up for it in 60 traffic. And having that bi level between the huge jump from 30s to 100s will help players move up. Theres also rec players that look for a sng at a certain bi level to play. Not having anything between 30s and 100s is cutting out those rec players whose target buyin is not close to either of those two.

I personally now am mixing in mtts a lot because traffic at 30/9m hypers is too low to solely play and 7s are becoming a litle too small for my roll. If there were 15/9m i would play only hypers at pretty much all times. I think there are other players that mix in other formats because they have to. This is another example of how adding different buyins will increase the number of games people reg for.

Before you were chosen you said that you personally didnt want to add more buyins but you would act as our representative. I think time and time again the popular opinion has been that more buyin levels of hyper need to be added. I hope you keep this in mind.

With FTP coming back and having a history of having a full spread of hyper buyins, i hope stars realizes they need to give the people what they want or risk losing them.

I agree with Alexwice here. I do think it's bad to add 60$ hypers, as it might not only hurt the 100$ hyper volume. But more importantly it might destroy the normal turbo games at that level, as has happened with most 100$ turbo 6m volume. So I'm kind of afraid for the 6-9-18m turbo's.

Agree with Rusemandingo. Personally I don't have any mood to mix 30s if 100s is not loading. I'd rather just take a break or play MTTs or cash. I know some regs did the same too or they just play high stakes hyper sats & turbos. Higher stakes hypers will bring them back and we can mix those stakes. 300+ in ftp was not loading very well too but regs could mix them very well. If ftp is back and the 100s 200s+ is running, and I cannot get SNE at ps for stakes below 200s. I will probably quit playing 100s at pokerstars and focus on ftp only. I'd rather quit than finishing this year with 7SN or 8SN. Higher stakes, softer game, LB and rakerace on ftp will be worth much more than 8SN. It's just a joke to cap the hypers at 100s.

i dont agree about ftp argument, it wont come back to its 'greatness', and we all know it, stars know it, so pointing out that people might switch is a bit silly (plus there were no antes amiright? = trolololo)

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what i would like to see are more hyper buyins because its natural to add them.... and what is very important
there should be a msg/announcement annoying people in sng lobby+a news in the mix in the corner of the client 'come and play full spectrum of hyper sngs. fun and fast blablabla i remember fiffty50 advertisng for a long time, why hypers are just sneaked in and not advertised ; (

15$/9
60$/6
and give high stakes ballers something
like 500$/6

I really dont see how it's Star's job to protect one format by restricting the choices of players. Im not sure how much traffic has dropped at turbos and reg speeds(someone like simpledude could prob give us good numbers) but the overall number of 6m $100 sngs that go off and rake paid has no doubt skyrocketed. I say give recreational player the choice to play what they want and then regs will follow them there. Stars' (and our rep's) goal should be the overall health and popularity of SNGs have having more options at many buyin levels is the best way to attract rec players to SNGs over cash and MTTs.

PS did add hyper HUSNGs up to 1000s, which is proven to be very popular. And the skill diff between good player and rec player is far larger in HUSNGs than 6max or 9man hypers. This impacted the traffic of turbo HUSNGs too. But regs accepted and adapted that.

High stakes turbo SNGs are pretty much dead anyway especially since the last year even b4 100s hypers were introduced and hypers will bring more actions (thus rake) for overall high stakes SNGs. PS did the right thing to introduce the hyper 9man 6max and HU similar to ftp (this came a bit slow tho). Similar to HUSNGs, PS should accept that hyper is the new trend of SNG world (like turbo vs slow) and add the complete range of stakes instead of ignoring the strong demand for these. The overall SNG traffic will def be much better and regs will adapt the new format very quickly.

I know ps is no1 without any competitors atm and they don't wanna to make changes with too much unnecessary fear to mess around. But this is dangerous.

I think the argument of protecting a certain game format is rediculous. If you consider yourself a professional, then you should be able to adjust to whatever your customers (fish) want. If all the fish want to start playing razz tomorrow, should we restrict razz buyins to keep our games healthy? No, you learn razz.

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