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03-09-2012 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerjunkie123
you haave not mentioned this again since the above post.

The majority said they would prefer NLO8 hypers instead of PLO8.

Its only fair, holdem and omaha high players have there hyper turbo's SNGs but none for the omaha8 players.
NLO8 hypers are under consideration. It will probably be a few weeks before a decision is made, one way or the other, because we want to see how the new Holdem and Omaha hypers perform.
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03-09-2012 , 03:21 PM
Someonoe suggested this genious idea, what do u think walmsey?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=222
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03-09-2012 , 07:39 PM
so were only auto spawning up to 4 tourneys max at once now?
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03-10-2012 , 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecastyles
Someonoe suggested this genious idea, what do u think walmsey?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=222
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[x] behalf

this would be an awesome improvement though, just do it walmsley.
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03-10-2012 , 12:16 PM
Jeebus stars, why did you sync 27 man's with mtt breaks? I started a 27 man and 4 minutes later we were on break! They only take max 2 hours and their is a break already scheduled in these.

I was playing a micro, and like a lot of people on my table were pissed. We don't want to chase away players!
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03-10-2012 , 12:18 PM
cause they take 2 hours

and people don't want to have some go on break but have some rando 27man still goin
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03-10-2012 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by philurivey
Jeebus stars, why did you sync 27 man's with mtt breaks? I started a 27 man and 4 minutes later we were on break! They only take max 2 hours and their is a break already scheduled in these.
are you saying they have the :55 break and a break after an hour into the game?
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03-10-2012 , 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TomoDaK
cause they take 2 hours

and people don't want to have some go on break but have some rando 27man still goin
Don't mix mtt's with sng's than. They take MAX 2 hours so no need for a break at all really.

Stars are you at least adding a button or something like what full tilt had so players can decide to keep playing?

Yes I don't mind a break the odd time, but from non mutlitablers we want to play and move on.


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Or can you disable sync breaks for certain levels? Like the micro's don't need sync breaks, maybe keep sync breaks for the 7 dollar and higher buy in games.

Last edited by philurivey; 03-10-2012 at 02:17 PM.
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03-10-2012 , 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by TomoDaK
cause they take 2 hours

and people don't want to have some go on break but have some rando 27man still goin
This!

The sync'ed breaks in 27man is awesome!

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Originally Posted by philurivey
Don't mix mtt's with sng's than. They take MAX 2 hours so no need for a break at all really.
Well thats only if u do max 4 tables or so and ARE playing in SETS! Its not rly only two hours of time if u play continously! So the sync'ed breaks was rly NICE!
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03-11-2012 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by PS Walmsley
NLO8 hypers are under consideration. It will probably be a few weeks before a decision is made, one way or the other, because we want to see how the new Holdem and Omaha hypers perform.
Don't take this the wrong way, as I'm a big fan of Pokerstars and yourself for listening to player feedback and implementing the necessary changes. I feel your above statement of basing the feasibility of NLO8 hypers on the success of Holdem and Omaha hypers is flawed thinking.

PLO has traditionally been a game that has not done well in the SNG format, as its most popular forms are cash games and MTTs. I don't see how you should have to wait a period of time to see how successful/unsuccessful PLO hypers as, as their result will have little correlation on the popularity of NLO8 hypers.

In my opinion (Pokerstars has some internal stats that would be more definitive), Omaha 8 has a much stronger SNG player pool than PLO and the addition these games would result in extra traffic for Pokerstars.

These games would help existing SNG players and some O8 cash game players achieve their desired volume during off-peak hours. Requiring only 6 players (I think the 6-max will be way more popular than the 9-max), these games should not take long to start up with the help of 2-3 regs.

Any chance you can trial a $3.50 and $7.00 and see how they do?
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03-11-2012 , 03:57 PM
I has a small suggestion for tourneys/SNGs

When you click the cash games tab, a "Loading" message appears in the main white "list window" until the list has loaded. For some reason, this doesn't happen for tourneys and SNGs. I think this can be confusing, since some tabs can take a while to load even on a good connection.

Should put one on those too, that disappears when the full list has loaded imo.
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03-11-2012 , 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by philurivey
Jeebus stars, why did you sync 27 man's with mtt breaks? I started a 27 man and 4 minutes later we were on break! They only take max 2 hours and their is a break already scheduled in these.

I was playing a micro, and like a lot of people on my table were pissed. We don't want to chase away players!
For the benefit of those who may be unaware, there is a parallel Stars suggestion thread for MTTSNGs in the MTTSNG forum.

There was a very hasty and superficial debate about SNG breaks in that thread, and adding it for 27mans was suggested by someone in there. It seems that the popular opinion amongst vocal regs on 2+2 is very heavily in favour of synch breaks.

I think that Stars' should conduct an across-the-board review of their SNG break policy, as there seems to me to be a great deal of inconsistency in the current setup, but tbh I'm not gonna be holding my breath waiting for that review.
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03-11-2012 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamTrousers
For the benefit of those who may be unaware, there is a parallel Stars suggestion thread for MTTSNGs in the MTTSNG forum.

There was a very hasty and superficial debate about SNG breaks in that thread, and adding it for 27mans was suggested by someone in there. It seems that the popular opinion amongst vocal regs on 2+2 is very heavily in favour of synch breaks.

I think that Stars' should conduct an across-the-board review of their SNG break policy, as there seems to me to be a great deal of inconsistency in the current setup, but tbh I'm not gonna be holding my breath waiting for that review.

I mean it's something to get use too I guess, but what confuses me is everyone is wanting games to go faster and here we have something that slows down the game.

I think maybe it is the "inconsistency" is what I am feeling about this,lol.
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03-11-2012 , 08:29 PM
Where is the inconsistency in giving a 2hr tournament breaks when 80 minute tournaments have been getting breaks for years, aka 45-player?
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03-12-2012 , 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by philurivey
I mean it's something to get use too I guess, but what confuses me is everyone is wanting games to go faster and here we have something that slows down the game.

I think maybe it is the "inconsistency" is what I am feeling about this,lol.


dont argue.
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03-12-2012 , 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by fgatorsusuck


dont argue.
Ummm you want the post above mine cause I am not argueing.
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03-12-2012 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by PS Walmsley
NLO8 hypers are under consideration. It will probably be a few weeks before a decision is made, one way or the other, because we want to see how the new Holdem and Omaha hypers perform.
I recently voiced my support for NLO8 hyper turbos but now I am not so sure. My only concern is canabilisation of the current 18 mans. It would be a shame if hypers just ended up replacing 18 mans rather than running alongside. I mean I'm all up for choice but currently 9 man sngs basically don't run since the introduction of NL 18 man's and I wonder if the same would happen with hypers?
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03-12-2012 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Angribob
I recently voiced my support for NLO8 hyper turbos but now I am not so sure. My only concern is canabilisation of the current 18 mans. It would be a shame if hypers just ended up replacing 18 mans rather than running alongside. I mean I'm all up for choice but currently 9 man sngs basically don't run since the introduction of NL 18 man's and I wonder if the same would happen with hypers?
+1
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03-12-2012 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Angribob
I recently voiced my support for NLO8 hyper turbos but now I am not so sure. My only concern is canabilisation of the current 18 mans. It would be a shame if hypers just ended up replacing 18 mans rather than running alongside. I mean I'm all up for choice but currently 9 man sngs basically don't run since the introduction of NL 18 man's and I wonder if the same would happen with hypers?
To my knowledge, there have not been any 18 mans introduced since forever (i.e. 6-7 months ago when Stars standardized their buyins). The 9 man KOs were quite popular as far back as 2-3 months ago and they sorta just "magically" feel off the earth. Maybe the recreational players were fed up with losing constantly.

I disagree with your concern of cannibalization of the 18 mans, as there is quite a large player pool that play in them. From my observations, there are as many as 50 games running at a time during peak hours, spread from the $1.50s up to the $30s. During off-peak hours (from 10 PM EST to 6 AM EST), the traffic drops and you see maybe 4 x $1.50s, 5 x $3.50s, 1 $7.50, 2 $15, around 10-15 games running concurrently.

If 6-max NL hypers are introduced at the same levels ($1.50, $3.50, $7.00, $15.00), the 18 mans will have a slight drop during peak hours to around 45.
During the off-peak hours, you will see maybe 6-7 games, but the amount of games that regulars can get off will double. I don't know about you, but I'd be much more in favor of 15 tabling around the clock as opposed to only doing it during a limited period of time.

Lastly, the 6-max format is not necessarily one that all 18 man players would want to play. It's a different game and would take time before they can properly adjust to them.

Let's create some discussion!
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03-13-2012 , 01:59 AM
Just gonna make a post updating the April Isle of Man meeting for PokerStars.

Would appreciate any votes:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...hread-1179294/

I think myself and Awice are the only nominees who would represent SNGs so if you guys want the SNG community heard then I suggest you for at least one of us (You get up to 3 votes).

If anyone has any questions feel free to post in the Internet Poker thread, here or even PM me. I have posted a CV post as well as a few answers to questions already to give you a better idea about myself and my objectives. In short, if I am selected, I guarantee that I will take any and all suggestions/opinions/ideas from anyone seriously, regardless of life time profit, ABI, 2p2 post count etc. I would also push for what is best for the community rather than myself/personally, and would also take just as much priority to games I don't personally don't currently play (like NLO8 sngs as above, 18mans, 45mans etc).

Eitherway, regardless of who is selected make sure you guys give your ideas/suggestions to at least one of the selected reps!! MANY cash game players complained after the cash game meeting earlier this year that their opinions weren't listened to, or they didn't know they could put forward ideas. Don't make that mistake, if you have read this and you have ideas (basically everyone in this thread!) you have no excuse of not forwarding your suggestions/opinions to be discussed!!
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03-13-2012 , 03:29 AM
wtf wtf wtf wtf where are the sng sats for the sunday storm? pls open them back..
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03-13-2012 , 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Caipor4
wtf wtf wtf wtf where are the sng sats for the sunday storm? pls open them back..
Technically, there is no Storm this sunday (or next). It has been replaced by the MicroMillions Event #32 (this week) and #97 (next week). But they look like are simply special editions of the Storm; they are at the same time and with the same structure, just a different name.

Also, all satellites to MTTs are the responsibility of Stars' MTT team, not their SNG team, so you should post anything about satties in the Stars MTT discussion thread in MTTc.
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03-13-2012 , 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by broken_jia
To my knowledge, there have not been any 18 mans introduced since forever (i.e. 6-7 months ago when Stars standardized their buyins). The 9 man KOs were quite popular as far back as 2-3 months ago and they sorta just "magically" feel off the earth. Maybe the recreational players were fed up with losing constantly.

I disagree with your concern of cannibalization of the 18 mans, as there is quite a large player pool that play in them. From my observations, there are as many as 50 games running at a time during peak hours, spread from the $1.50s up to the $30s. During off-peak hours (from 10 PM EST to 6 AM EST), the traffic drops and you see maybe 4 x $1.50s, 5 x $3.50s, 1 $7.50, 2 $15, around 10-15 games running concurrently.

If 6-max NL hypers are introduced at the same levels ($1.50, $3.50, $7.00, $15.00), the 18 mans will have a slight drop during peak hours to around 45.
During the off-peak hours, you will see maybe 6-7 games, but the amount of games that regulars can get off will double. I don't know about you, but I'd be much more in favor of 15 tabling around the clock as opposed to only doing it during a limited period of time.

Lastly, the 6-max format is not necessarily one that all 18 man players would want to play. It's a different game and would take time before they can properly adjust to them.

Let's create some discussion!
I would be in favor of implementing them at the 1.50 and 3.50 levels at first to get a gauge of how they will affect 18 man traffic at those levels. At these levels there are plenty of games that run but as of right now as Im sure you are aware its hard to get a lot of volume in at the 7/15/30 levels and it would be a shame if these took away players from those games.

Im also of the opinion that these will get closer and closer to unbeatable as you raise the stakes being that unlike in holdem preflop equities run so close together. Full Tilt had a smaller 08 sng player pool than that of stars but did run something similar (nl and pl 08 superturbos) These games never took off because regulars had no interest in them mostly due to them being close to a 0 edge game.

It does seem like the majority of players (bunch of degens ) are in favor of stars rolling these out and I do expect them to do so but again I hope at least initially there only available at the 1.50 and 3.50 levels.

Anyway thats my opinion (biased 18 man player)
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03-13-2012 , 01:17 PM
When you go to "registered in tournament (CTRL+R)" and you click "go there" it automaticly closes the window to see in what other tournaments your registered. This is very annoying if you want to unregister from several tournaments.

Please make it so that the "registered in tournament" will stay open when you click "go there".
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03-15-2012 , 01:17 PM
I am going on leave from tomorrow and I will be back on Monday 26th March. In the meantime, if you have any urgent issues please PM PokerStars Steve.
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