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10-10-2017 , 12:31 PM
There is a glitch in tour info, it says in that i have 0sec left on both tables that i play on, but i clearly have time left as you can see https://gyazo.com/2dbfea652d8bc166d5a801cbcce8dd0f
10-10-2017 , 12:36 PM
No. It just gives you countdowns of your standard pre timebank thinking time as well. Timebank would kick in once the 22 goes to 0
10-10-2017 , 12:40 PM
No no, its ok now, it was just some random temporary glitch https://gyazo.com/418a5eac9269d8658e1ab970c2e0164f
10-10-2017 , 01:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelvin Kerber
so u guys gonna still take a shot with overlays, but wont spend money improving the software?

can u please at least explain us? Is it because its too expensive? To tough to improve?
tihs+1

@pads i think you are misunderstanding the posts about fedor and jason

i think no one is saying that you should not sponsor them or something similar to that imo, they are both great guys imo and have very motivating thinking. life philosophy work ethic...

when that said the problem imo at partypoker managment/reasoning is in PRIORITIES
when hiring/sponsoring people is obv that you are giving them X amount in money so those money + overlays in MTTs where you are spending Y amount in money daily,monthly etc... you can use all that to hire more/extra people to brainstorm 24 hours a day and to work faster harder to improve software to make it playable/enjoyable as fast as possible

so party poker management need to realize what are priorities and how should be best to invest all those money
imo
#1 SOFTWARE
#2 SOFTWARE
#3 SOFTWARE
#4 SCHEDULE
#5 SCHEDULE
#6 SCHEDULE
#7 DEPOSITING BONUSES
#8 RELOAD BONUSES
#9 OVERLAYS
#10 SPONSORING PEOPLE
#11 SATELLITES FOR LIVE TOURNAMENTS


P.S. Also party management need to realize that no one cares/fell emotional about party poker (as people do to old pokerstars) the only reason that people want to change sites stars=>party poker atm is that stars are just abusing their costumers and show no respect for people that are making their money printing machine work,
so if like tomorrow there is some new site that will pop out(or stars change their policy back to what it was) with for ex fultilt software of smth like that good MTT schedule/ guaranties low/reasonable rake etc people will snap leave party poker and party poker ship will sink very fast

So please dont miss this opportunity to make party poker and playing online MTTs great/fun again
10-10-2017 , 06:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by U shove i call
Id take 2007 stars client over 2017 party every day and twice on sundays. Genuinely confused why they are so backwards in this area. Everyone hates stars you have the high ground in regards to where people would rather play if given a choice between similar clients. Hurry up and sort it have been promised SOON for ages. Really hope this end of year client update is all that has been promised.

Yeah, end of year is the plan, actually spoke yesterday about this and should be getting more concrete time frames pretty soon, there should also be some things updated before then, i.e. some smaller yet important releases.


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Originally Posted by Re8uZ
tihs+1

@pads i think you are misunderstanding the posts about fedor and jason

i think no one is saying that you should not sponsor them or something similar to that imo, they are both great guys imo and have very motivating thinking. life philosophy work ethic...

when that said the problem imo at partypoker managment/reasoning is in PRIORITIES
when hiring/sponsoring people is obv that you are giving them X amount in money so those money + overlays in MTTs where you are spending Y amount in money daily,monthly etc... you can use all that to hire more/extra people to brainstorm 24 hours a day and to work faster harder to improve software to make it playable/enjoyable as fast as possible

so party poker management need to realize what are priorities and how should be best to invest all those money
imo
#1 SOFTWARE
#2 SOFTWARE
#3 SOFTWARE
#4 SCHEDULE
#5 SCHEDULE
#6 SCHEDULE
#7 DEPOSITING BONUSES
#8 RELOAD BONUSES
#9 OVERLAYS
#10 SPONSORING PEOPLE
#11 SATELLITES FOR LIVE TOURNAMENTS


P.S. Also party management need to realize that no one cares/fell emotional about party poker (as people do to old pokerstars) the only reason that people want to change sites stars=>party poker atm is that stars are just abusing their costumers and show no respect for people that are making their money printing machine work,
so if like tomorrow there is some new site that will pop out(or stars change their policy back to what it was) with for ex fultilt software of smth like that good MTT schedule/ guaranties low/reasonable rake etc people will snap leave party poker and party poker ship will sink very fast

So please dont miss this opportunity to make party poker and playing online MTTs great/fun again
A lot of inaccuracies in this post but no need to get into a replying war over it.
" Also party management need to realize that no one cares/fell emotional about party poker (as people do to old pokerstars) the only reason that people want to change sites stars=>party poker atm is that stars are just abusing their costumers"

I promise this is not true though, lots of work and investment has been done all over the world to make a great relationship with PP and players from all levels of play.

Since 2015 we went to the "grassroots" http://www.partypoker.com/blog/compl...n-october.html in the UK and since have had so many amazing live tournaments in places like Kings, Playground, Germany etc etc one of the reasons numbers are so huge right now is because of the very hard work done by the live events team. Brazil was a huge success recently where we sponsored the WSOP events there and hopefully that boom can spill back onto the site too.

A lot of the sponsored pros are very big names in the local countries and they do a really good job of connecting the players to the site, people like Joao Massari in Brazil does amazing work for example. People like fedor/jason are on the advisory committee where they help the site make changes that shapes the future of the site. Sure you can have 10 guys in instead of them working on different ways to do things, but if you have 2-3 really smart guys who understand poker well then they will be able to make a huge difference.

Shout out to everybody who played this evening, over 900 people in the uppercut at the moment! Over 220 in the high roller, 385 in the counterpunch 1100 in the contender, 1750 in the jab, 1250 in the brawl, really nice to see from a cold and wet Helsinki!
10-10-2017 , 07:20 PM
Party software isn't really that bad, as long as you get used to it + have good enough computer to run it. My old Acer laptop couldn't handle it, but this 3 years old computer does it very smoothly with million programs running. 888, Unibet, iPoker, MPN and most random networks have worse software. Full Tilt really wouldn't be great software in 2017, I didn't like it even 5 years back.

Moaning about how Party software is not similar like PokerStars (which is okay software but not really great) will most likely pass over time as people will get used to it. I actually think that PartyPoker mobile software is currently either best in the market or very close to it, have used it on my Android phone and it's great.

Most important about poker software is that it works + there's no disconnections. Surely there's some problems with Party about these, but far less than on many other software.

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Shout out to everybody who played this evening, over 900 people in the uppercut at the moment! Over 220 in the high roller, 385 in the counterpunch 1100 in the contender, 1750 in the jab, 1250 in the brawl, really nice to see from a cold and wet Helsinki!
At least you won't have to live here :P
10-11-2017 , 03:29 AM
Need to fix your late night bowl comps like this one here
10-12-2017 , 05:25 AM
would be nice to have mini clubber on sunday.
10-12-2017 , 05:35 AM
oh and I am getting excited that I see at the live events tab Barcelona
10-12-2017 , 08:41 AM
Pads i was trying to say that software needs really simple fixes
Biger fonds
Better filters
Resizable lobby
Hotkeys
And with money you are giving into overlays monthy bonuses for sponsored pros it should better to hire IT guys to fix this isues and then sponsored all the pris u want

About emotional atachment i was trying to say that we all love what party is trying to do and how much they invest money resurses into poker BUT is really annoying that such simple (from our pov) software fine tuning takes so long time to execute... for ex. how hard is to put bigger fonds in the table???

Like personally i really like party MTTs (structures, schedule etc. when i play i fire only some of 109$ and 215$)but is very tilting for me to play with those fonds size and not having check/fold hotkey on mouse so i am skiping party a lot and playing stars if u fix this i will very happily play every session i play party mtts will add some midstakes mtts too, and i feel very annoyed that i am not anle to do that znd move my action from starts because party software has this software issues that are making me play there annoying (fww i start to use party caption when i play on party znd is great and that is making me even more to tilt because i am realizing , again from my pov, how simple/easy to fix party software isues are)
Also i have a lot of people that are like playing for fun from like 20 mtts weekly low and midstakes and when they are asking me what and where to play i always tell them: well party is doing good job but software sucks, your eyes gona hurt from fonds and lobby is messy so i will suggest to play stars because the have best software and more and bigger mtts in your buy in range, also there is 888 poker but they dont have that much mtts and their software is also bad

When that said i think all of us giving feedback in this thread really are giving feedback with good intentions and want party to be great site(i know i do) where people will play poker (not slots,spins or w/e gimic) and playing poker will be great enjoyable aggain

So please make playing poker party again ASAP <3
10-12-2017 , 09:39 AM
Btw is Pads in Helsinki to get to the bottom of the BitB stable controversy? Reads like a John LeCarre novel if so lel
10-13-2017 , 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by rodgethat
Need to fix your late night bowl comps like this one here
These low-stakes, small field PKOs are generally quite dull. Prize pool is super withered because only half goes to payouts and the bounties never get high enough to be exciting.

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Originally Posted by the4bettingmonk
Btw is Pads in Helsinki to get to the bottom of the BitB stable controversy? Reads like a John LeCarre novel if so lel
link?
10-13-2017 , 07:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Sasquatch
These low-stakes, small field PKOs are generally quite dull. Prize pool is super withered because only half goes to payouts and the bounties never get high enough to be exciting.
Prize pool was not why i posted that, It was 1 away from the $$ and late reg was still open
10-13-2017 , 09:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rodgethat
Prize pool was not why i posted that, It was 1 away from the $$ and late reg was still open


You could buy in for only 5bb's? Lolol.


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10-14-2017 , 03:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rodgethat
Prize pool was not why i posted that, It was 1 away from the $$ and late reg was still open
Haha, omg missed that. I am an unobservant man. Was that an outlier or one they forgot to change w the new structure? Because it looks like level 20 is normally 3k big blind.

Still stand by my point though, dislike that half of the late schedule is PKOs
10-14-2017 , 06:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Sasquatch
Haha, omg missed that. I am an unobservant man. Was that an outlier or one they forgot to change w the new structure? Because it looks like level 20 is normally 3k big blind.

Still stand by my point though, dislike that half of the late schedule is PKOs
I late regged the same one the next day and we were 5ppl away from the $$
10-14-2017 , 08:23 PM
Just saw the warmup main event 109 and mini HR. Thumbs up!

Is the mincash in phase 109/215 still lower than the buy in ?

+1 to Berglin. Tourneys get much tougher with the re entries. Hope that you remove them at some point.
10-14-2017 , 11:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ferdilicious
Just saw the warmup main event 109 and mini HR. Thumbs up!
Yes, nice changes indeed, but why same timeslot as 215 warmup? 19:00 or even 17:00 CET would be better imo.
10-15-2017 , 05:46 AM
+1 great additions with the minis (any reason no mini warmups?) but need to spread stuff out more.7pm uk has way too much kicking off.Title fights and main events starting all at the same time doesnt make sense.
I would of gone for 4pm warmup/6pm title fight/7pm main.

Id re word some of your titles too.Such as the mini main event instead of the main event mini.Id also not include any weight class in the titles of your majors.It would make them stand out more and look cleaner.
The main event $215
The mini main event $11
10-15-2017 , 06:19 AM
+1 to naming and timing if timbeys and +1 to great additions.
10-15-2017 , 11:33 AM
Id like to make a suggestion for some of the sats, primarily the $11 > $55 ticket sats.

These rarely run and I'm often kicked out at start because there aren't he minimum entires.

My suggestion, instead of starting these on the hour, please change it to :05 or :10 past the hour. Almost everyone is still on break as they are usually longer then 5 minutes, when these are suppose to start and will not be in front of the computer to get in last second. I feel this will greatly help these in particular and possibly others also.


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10-15-2017 , 03:17 PM
These new multiphase-tournaments are excellent, keep up with the good work!

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10-15-2017 , 04:57 PM
Hi,

Imo the fastfoward timebanks are too short
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For the human players at least
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but for real though, I would like to give party another shot in the ff games and start by putting volume in during the high monster series rake race.
However I find the time(bank) really unconvenient now at party, timing out quite frequently and having to play rushed to avoid that. (especially when playing 2-3 handed with the small pool at 200-500nl) I think I use a bit more time than the average player but imo not unreasonably much more, on stars I never have issues with the time(bank). I think having quite tight timebanks in MTTs makes sense to do something against stalling, but for the cashgames I would like to see them extented.
10-15-2017 , 05:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jepser8
Hi,

Imo the fastfoward timebanks are too short
Spoiler:
For the human players at least
Spoiler:
but for real though, I would like to give party another shot in the ff games and start by putting volume in during the high monster series rake race.
However I find the time(bank) really unconvenient now at party, timing out quite frequently and having to play rushed to avoid that. (especially when playing 2-3 handed with the small pool at 200-500nl) I think I use a bit more time than the average player but imo not unreasonably much more, on stars I never have issues with the time(bank). I think having quite tight timebanks in MTTs makes sense to do something against stalling, but for the cashgames I would like to see them extented.
How bad are the bots on fast-forward for rake race? Is it worse than usual? Are there new accounts playing from Russia? The whole promo is incredibly naive considering how many bots play fast-forward.
10-15-2017 , 07:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by the4bettingmonk
How bad are the bots on fast-forward for rake race? Is it worse than usual? Are there new accounts playing from Russia? The whole promo is incredibly naive considering how many bots play fast-forward.
I don't have a good insight on this. I barely play cashgames at party, 2 months ago I was playing 100nl and put in good volume for 2-3 weeks at party ff. However after reading this 'five reasons to not play on pp' thread where many raised integrity issues on these games and finding the pool unhealthy I decided to move back to pokerstars. Not everything in that thread was fair to party imo and there might be a small chance that there actually aren't that many bots but it's just v reg infested. However the integrity issues regarding the cashgames and bots where alarming to me and I would tend to believe that there is a descent amount of botting going on.

I still hope they will do more about the integrity of the games, even if it is partially to gain confidence from players that avoid partypoker because of these issues. I think bots are pretty big threat to online poker, few years ago they were grinding 5nl on ipoker but from what I understand is that they improved a lot and are quite competent and beating midstakes now. Sites could think about finding a sweet spot between being as convenient as possible to open an account and play and ensuring the integrity of the games. And I think partypoker could def move more towards ensuring integrity. Something that might help is using 're-captcha' which (winning) players get every now and then. I got this at pokerstars the other day. Increasing account verification (like on the French sites, need ID verification and address confirmation via a letter) would be good as well imo, once someone is caught on using a bot you can share the identities with the other sites and ban them from online poker for a long time. It won't be bullet proof but I think these will be massive improvements already.

The rake race is only running for stakes up to 50nl, atm. I think it wouldn't neccesarily get worse, maybe some traffic from regs at 100nl will move to 50nl and some players from other sites move over to play in the rake race. I don't think the rake race is neccesarily attracting many new bots, if any. I think they will mainly attract players from other sites / regs (and thus maybe bots) from other stakes, which def is not a bad thing imo. However you probably mean that you don't like seeing bots getting nice paydays which I agree on.

Last edited by Jepser8; 10-15-2017 at 08:08 PM.

      
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