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10-06-2017 , 01:25 AM
Can anyone tell me how quickly the leader board updates. Had a couple of scores today and trying to figure out if it's worth going for
10-06-2017 , 02:45 AM
The scheduling is still terribad. Why can't you just have a normal schedule ffs that would look something like this at each buyin level:

-70% MTTs reg speeds (10min levels+), 30% MTTs turbos
-25% max of all MTTs PKOs
-25-33% of MTTs 6max

When you have these basic aspects to MTT scheduling somewhat right, no one cares / complains about what else you add or minor changes. If you want to add SuperHyperKOCoinFlip 20% rake all-in MTTs with 1BB starting stacks, noone cares -- we can just not play them! But now you don't even have a proper core outside the peak hours, so basically for about 80% of the day your schedule is worse than I could sketch up in two minutes. If you're wondering why Winamax kicks your asses at every buyin level outside the peak hours, this is why. It's just really embarrassing, they are a site marketed for French people only yet their random 5s and 22s get 2-3x as many players as Party MTTs. Why? Because they have a good MTT schedule! They understand the core need to have a steady supply of normally structured non-KO regular speed MTTs which is what people want to play most of the time.

IT'S NOT THAT HARD. It's like you have random monkeys clicking buttons, just completely incapable of coming up with a decent schedule. I wonder if it's Pads and other pros who are coming up with their ideas for a "good" schedule with 0 insight about what kind of tournament people who don't play 500ABI (aka 99,99% of your customers) actually want to play, or if it's them stopping the dumbest **** you come up with. Either way I wonder what Bryan's role is in all this, you poached him from Stars yet everything's been much worse ever since he came around?

I keep saying this all over again in threads: JUST GIVE US NORMAL TOURNAMENTS TO PLAY. Stuff like PKOs and turbos should be additions on the side. People want to play actual poker not 6min blind KO flipfests. Give us proper blind levels, give us leverage, give us everything that makes poker fun and not just random gambling. (Could give us back the rebuys too, but we can live without them.)

Add the buggy software and there's just no reason to play on Party whatsoever. Luckily other sites are stepping up their game big time, I'm currently so much happier to play on Unibet than Party which I could never have imagined saying 6 months ago. Out of the big six or so networks, Party currently has the second worst software in the market, the worst MTT schedule and I'd say second worst customer support. Pretty impressive from a site that's "trying to seriously compete with PokerStars". It's like every time you try to do something to step up your game like signing another pro or creating another superhighroller cash game, your actual product gets worse and worse after every single update. First you ruin the software, then you ruin MTTs. You seem to focus 99% of your assets on stuff that may impress some poker fans but that 1% of players actually care about.

Here the best advice you'll get all week: Fix your product first and then focus on superficial stuff like hiring more pros. You can't challenge anyone without a working product and the stuff you're actually selling, aka your poker product, is terrible in pretty much every possible way.

Last edited by Chuck Bass; 10-06-2017 at 02:59 AM.
10-06-2017 , 03:35 AM
Fwiw I thing those 6max timbeys with 1k-2k gtd and turbo were a joke, I was happy to see yday have a few less but bigger guarantees, just everything being turbo is Obv stupid as hell but was a mistake. Slow step in right direction imo
10-06-2017 , 04:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck Bass

Here the best advice you'll get all week: Fix your product first and then focus on superficial stuff like hiring more pros. You can't challenge anyone without a working product and the stuff you're actually selling, aka your poker product, is terrible in pretty much every possible way.
THIS
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10-06-2017 , 06:31 AM
Hi all

I wanted to update date on some changes to our Friday, Saturday and Tuesday Uppercut and HR events..

Summary >>

Friday:

14:00 ET /19:00 BST Uppercut changes from a $30K Gtd PKO to a $50K Gtd regular tourney (with 2 x RE)
14:00 ET /19:00 BST High Roller changes from a $25K Gtd PKO to a $50K Gtd regular tourney

Saturday:

14:00 ET/19:00 BST Uppercut changes from a $40K Gtd 6-Max to a $50K Gtd regular tourney (with 2 x RE)
14:00 ET/19:00 BST High Roller changes guarantee from $30K to $50K Gtd

Tuesday:

14:00 ET/19:00 BST Uppercut increases GTE from $50K Gtd to $100K Gtd
14:00 ET/19:00 BST High Roller increases GTE from $50K Gtd to $100K Gtd

As always feedback is appreicated

Thanks,

Colette
10-06-2017 , 06:40 AM
That looks cool, some updates on the evening games for EU, and who doesn't like raised GTDs?!

Although it is news to me to call a "Re-entry" tournament a "regular tourney" but that might just be me not keeping up with whats "regular" nowadays in MTT

Will check out Friday evening MTTs tonight though!
10-06-2017 , 07:10 AM
how can the management be ok with offering us this schedule, its literally the same tournament repeated over and over. I wonder what they are trying to get out of it, because this schedule is no where near good enough to compete for the top site, is anyone telling them this?

The most tilting thing is bryan comes up with a schedule of all the things we have been asking for, but somehow they won't do the same for the daily tourneys? I don't play on party because of the schedule
10-06-2017 , 07:51 AM
Yea I mean the focus shouldn't be the flagships the focus should be the backbone of the schedule, flagships are gonna do well regardless but sched is legit a catastrophe at this point in time
10-06-2017 , 08:01 AM
played the 22$ 8max turbos yesterday and thought this is just a change of the 6max turbos to 8max which i think wouldve been a smart move. But its not as stated above and I timed out literally every 3rd hand because of the ridiculous timebank.
Why aren't u guys able to change the most obvious things even when its mentioned over and over again?
- expiration dates
- more buy in levels
- longer timebanks in turbos
- less random small gtd PKO regfests, instead 1-2 big ones
- improve lobbies/"read info" section (number of people paid? personal note colors viewable in mtt lobby? number of collected bounties of each player?)

come on!!
10-06-2017 , 08:16 AM
its funny how for the money spent on adding a guy like Jason Koon to the roster of pros u could hire an army of indian programmers to overhaul your entire software and get two guys fro these forums to rewrite your mtt schedule. who the f sets the priorities of your budgetary spendings partypoker?
10-06-2017 , 09:35 AM
don't want to beat a dead horse but the schedule right now is very, very poor.

I'd love to switch most of my volume to party but you guys are making it hard to do so
10-06-2017 , 09:40 AM
Stop whining, cant you see that the Powerfest GTD prizepools are rising, everything must be great : )

If you look at the posts from year ago, people have begged for more variety in the schedule (especially micro and low-stakes). Nothing has obv changed lol
10-06-2017 , 09:45 AM
Nice changes considering weekend UC / HR events.

However, I agree with other posters about boring schedule and pro players. Don't get countless random highroller or celebrity pros, get some good people working in customer support / software people etc. instead. And as you already have ~20 sponsored players, use them like introducing some weekly / monthly "Kill the Pros" (yeah copied mainly from Winamax) promotion tournament where you get bounties by busting pros and jackpot by busting 3+ at the same tournament.
10-06-2017 , 10:04 AM
1970s software, worst schedule on the internet, how can we attract new players to the site?
10-06-2017 , 10:17 AM
Downloaded the mobile app yesterday because I was one tabling and needed food.
It looks so much better than the desktop app it's not even funny.

I still have hope for party, but the schedule and the software needs to improve, people are losing their patience.
10-06-2017 , 11:43 AM
i feel like playing on a bugged software everytime even though everything works fine lol..
10-06-2017 , 11:48 AM
My goodness Chuck Bass went absolutely in with that post. He dropped the mic on partypoker. Everything he said was spot on. Party, please hire Chuck to revamp the sched.
10-06-2017 , 01:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mystic
Instead of investing in more and more sponsored pro's to all tell us how great Party are for poker, how about investing time and money into improving the actual product - ie. software developers. When you finally have a decent piece of software then increase the marketing spend.
I said this in May.

Forget the software, Jason Koon welcome to the Party payroll!

Can't wait to hear who is next
10-06-2017 , 02:22 PM
I sincerely hope the higher ups at party read everything posted here just to get a good idea how they are just ****ing things up


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10-06-2017 , 03:58 PM
I'm convinced all of this is from the Marketing department. They have a massive budget this year for promotions so they want to tie in everything with all of their different campaigns etc. No cardroom manager would revamp a tournament schedule in one night. You can see the parallels between the new schedule and the badly runs leaderboards.
10-06-2017 , 06:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Party_Rep
Hi all

I wanted to update date on some changes to our Friday, Saturday and Tuesday Uppercut and HR events..

Summary >>

Friday:

14:00 ET /19:00 BST Uppercut changes from a $30K Gtd PKO to a $50K Gtd regular tourney (with 2 x RE)
14:00 ET /19:00 BST High Roller changes from a $25K Gtd PKO to a $50K Gtd regular tourney

Saturday:

14:00 ET/19:00 BST Uppercut changes from a $40K Gtd 6-Max to a $50K Gtd regular tourney (with 2 x RE)
14:00 ET/19:00 BST High Roller changes guarantee from $30K to $50K Gtd

Tuesday:

14:00 ET/19:00 BST Uppercut increases GTE from $50K Gtd to $100K Gtd
14:00 ET/19:00 BST High Roller increases GTE from $50K Gtd to $100K Gtd

As always feedback is appreicated

Thanks,

Colette
played the 530 after a long time today cause it wasnt prog, excelente changes
10-07-2017 , 05:27 AM
Can the 215$ tickets from the Title Fight Sats only be used in Title Fight? Thought it can be used in any 215 MTT or at least for the Monster Series Main?
Can these be transferred and how long are these tickets valid?
10-07-2017 , 02:41 PM
I see this is a recurring theme on this thread, but what the hell is up with the mtt schedule?

Every tournament has 6-8 minute blinds, 20 levels of late reg, and, oh, every damn tournament is the exact same!! Every micro tournament is a 8 max 1k or 1k PSKO with the exact same prize pool and start time.

Why not just have a single 5$, 5k PKO with 12 minute blinds, then schedule some 3$, 7 or 11 $ tournies at the same time? I hope you guys know that these blind levels are brutal.

Last edited by Tilltard; 10-07-2017 at 02:52 PM.
10-07-2017 , 06:13 PM
Opened the client for the first time in a few days after I saw someone from Party post that the turbo schedule was a mistake and it should be fixed now. Well guess what it's not fixed, it's even worse trololololol. The entire MTT sched is so terrible in so many ways that I can't even begin to point out the flaws without breaking my keyboard

If I see one more tweet from their team pros praising their superhighroller promotions I swear I'm gonna lose my ****. I'd be pretty embarrassed to promote a product this flawed


edit: Guess that sounded overly negative, I'd like to add that I think Party has some good people working for them, they are operating more ethically than most sites, and I think their "heart" is mostly in the right place in terms of greed/fairness/ecosystem/poker longevity stuff. It's just that the people in charge of their software, MTT schedule, customer service, and a few other areas appear be incredibly incompetent, so much so that it's beyond comical especially since most of that isn't hard to fix at all.

Last edited by Chuck Bass; 10-07-2017 at 06:20 PM.
10-07-2017 , 06:23 PM
Na didn't sound negative at all broski :P

      
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