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09-27-2017 , 09:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blakkman08
It's not for European players, you ever think of that?
Sure but Europeans make by far the largest segment, and for high leaderboard to be anywhere near playable without cheating it would be great if one playing it could have even 6 hours of sleep each night. And naming that Clubber2 as a turbo is either a bad joke or mistake.

Also annoying that Party changes tournament structures unannounced and are right now running 3 different structures in their 109$ events alone with 3 different late regs (12 lvl, 15 lvl, 16 lvl) changing even daily. Easy to miss tournaments.

Colette, can you check at least Clubber II structure for us? It really can't be called turbo when it actually has slower structure than some of your 109$ regular tournaments.

E: And please fix Uppercut II and Eliminator II. Those structures are super bad joke, even 12 min blinds is a huge strectch, should really be 10 min since you got new 450/900 etc levels there. They're effectively super slow deep stacks now.
09-27-2017 , 09:52 AM
Also: Why can't I unregister from CPP 5,5 satellite, I won ticket at 1,1$ one?

There's no unregister-button (no button at all) while there's still 10-15 min time before tournament starts. I would like to have a moment break and choose a satellite I play instead of being forced to play from the start.

147623933 is tournament ID.
09-27-2017 , 10:51 AM
When should we expect the t$ from expired powerfest tickets.. mine are no longer showing with the inactive filter and I have no received the t$ (i played the target events)
09-27-2017 , 02:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blakkman08
It's not for European players, you ever think of that?
I know that, but I just think that its better to keep it playable for Players from Europe + America, than just for American Players. Espacially when there have been an overlay in those tournaments the last days I dont see the reason, why you would like to reduce the number of Players.
And btw even if it would be in the prime time of my timezone, I wouldnt like this super slow structure. It will last way to Long for such a tournament in my opinion.

Quote:
Originally Posted by FarseerFinland
Also annoying that Party changes tournament structures unannounced and are right now running 3 different structures in their 109$ events alone with 3 different late regs (12 lvl, 15 lvl, 16 lvl) changing even daily. Easy to miss tournaments.
+ this
09-27-2017 , 05:55 PM
New structures are super bad combined with 15 min blinds, lateregs last 4,5 hours. I would expect Uppercut not to be over when European workday begins... but I guess Party doesn't care about those who go to work.

Last edited by FarseerFinland; 09-27-2017 at 06:01 PM.
09-27-2017 , 06:08 PM
Not sure if 4 hours 25 minutes is long enough for late registration in the Uppercut.

Maybe make it 6 hours to allow some Canadians to late reg?
09-27-2017 , 06:12 PM
Could you please fix the satellites which goes off without hitting the minimum amount of entrants? I entered a Millions North America $55 sat tonight without checking the min. number of players. The start time approached, and the table opened promptly with me and one other player sitting, and a pop-up stating "The tournament is currently paused. Play will resume shortly". After 5 min, there was another pop-up: "Message from PartyPoker: Play will resume shortly". I then kept the table open as I grinded the rest of my session, and 3 hours later (long after late reg ended), the table was still open with the same message: "Play will resume shortly". I then checked My Statements to see if I was reimbursed the $55, which I wasn't.

This creates a great deal of confusion and misunderstaning, especially amongst recreationals. Please cancel the satellite right away and close the table automatically once the minimum number of entrants is not reached. Thanks!
09-27-2017 , 07:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mystic
Not sure if 4 hours 25 minutes is long enough for late registration in the Uppercut.

Maybe make it 6 hours to allow some Canadians to late reg?
It actually wasn't for me, missed it by a minute. Why can't we have late register open in all tournaments until bubble bursts. Why not make 30 minute blind levels with even more meaningless blind levels added while we're at it. Moar money to the prize pool!
09-27-2017 , 08:10 PM
Hi,

I think the phases are ok but I think they shouldn't take over the schedule like they did in the 22s. These phase 1s are more or less just sattelites where you take over exact stack instead of all getting a startstack I think. All the regular 22s where much more popular than the phases and not having f.e. 22 turbos at 22 cet, and a regular 22 at 1600 were clear misses imo.

Also I think 're-entry' is a bad filter. I don't think this is very important to filter out while having the option to filter out the phases is be important to me. They take in way way more space and a tournament being a re entry (like uppercut) doesn't usually make me not willing to play/see it. While on the other side you often just don't want to play/see a phase tournament. Now when I mark re-entry I get all the phase tournements in there aswell (while not having marked phase). Therefor I think it's just better to delete the re-entry filter and people can just see the re-entry sign in the lobby instead.
09-27-2017 , 08:25 PM
LOL just came to post about the 4 hour late reg. agree with finland. 4 hours is too long for ANY normal daily, let alone one that starts late night euro time.
09-28-2017 , 04:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FarseerFinland
Also: Why can't I unregister from CPP 5,5 satellite, I won ticket at 1,1$ one?

There's no unregister-button (no button at all) while there's still 10-15 min time before tournament starts. I would like to have a moment break and choose a satellite I play instead of being forced to play from the start.

147623933 is tournament ID.
The tourney is a specific feeder event as stated in the Read More section in the lobby and the name > Caribbean Poker Party Feeder: 20 x $27.50 Gtd Turbo

These are added specifically to feed the next event and defeats the purpose if we allow late registration



Quote:
Originally Posted by Aguskb
When should we expect the t$ from expired powerfest tickets.. mine are no longer showing with the inactive filter and I have no received the t$ (i played the target events)
I believe once the series is fully complete - the SHR was still running last night till the early hours of this morning and is part of the Powerfest schedule

Alternatively - feel free to PM myself your username and I will look into it



Quote:
Originally Posted by thenewfury
Could you please fix the satellites which goes off without hitting the minimum amount of entrants? I entered a Millions North America $55 sat tonight without checking the min. number of players. The start time approached, and the table opened promptly with me and one other player sitting, and a pop-up stating "The tournament is currently paused. Play will resume shortly". After 5 min, there was another pop-up: "Message from PartyPoker: Play will resume shortly". I then kept the table open as I grinded the rest of my session, and 3 hours later (long after late reg ended), the table was still open with the same message: "Play will resume shortly". I then checked My Statements to see if I was reimbursed the $55, which I wasn't.
This creates a great deal of confusion and misunderstaning, especially amongst recreationals. Please cancel the satellite right away and close the table automatically once the minimum number of entrants is not reached. Thanks!
You will receive an email
I agree with the cancellation of these games the functionality is not ideal and is under review with poker room and tech
Apologies for the inconvenience


Thanks
Colette
09-28-2017 , 05:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FarseerFinland
Sure but Europeans make by far the largest segment, and for high leaderboard to be anywhere near playable without cheating it would be great if one playing it could have even 6 hours of sleep each night. And naming that Clubber2 as a turbo is either a bad joke or mistake.

Also annoying that Party changes tournament structures unannounced and are right now running 3 different structures in their 109$ events alone with 3 different late regs (12 lvl, 15 lvl, 16 lvl) changing even daily. Easy to miss tournaments.

Colette, can you check at least Clubber II structure for us? It really can't be called turbo when it actually has slower structure than some of your 109$ regular tournaments.

E: And please fix Uppercut II and Eliminator II. Those structures are super bad joke, even 12 min blinds is a huge strectch, should really be 10 min since you got new 450/900 etc levels there. They're effectively super slow deep stacks now.
Quote:
Originally Posted by FarseerFinland
New structures are super bad combined with 15 min blinds, lateregs last 4,5 hours. I would expect Uppercut not to be over when European workday begins... but I guess Party doesn't care about those who go to work.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jepser8
Hi,

I think the phases are ok but I think they shouldn't take over the schedule like they did in the 22s. These phase 1s are more or less just sattelites where you take over exact stack instead of all getting a startstack I think. All the regular 22s where much more popular than the phases and not having f.e. 22 turbos at 22 cet, and a regular 22 at 1600 were clear misses imo.

Also I think 're-entry' is a bad filter. I don't think this is very important to filter out while having the option to filter out the phases is be important to me. They take in way way more space and a tournament being a re entry (like uppercut) doesn't usually make me not willing to play/see it. While on the other side you often just don't want to play/see a phase tournament. Now when I mark re-entry I get all the phase tournements in there aswell (while not having marked phase). Therefor I think it's just better to delete the re-entry filter and people can just see the re-entry sign in the lobby instead.
Thanks for the feedback - will ensure its shared and reviewed
09-28-2017 , 07:42 AM
Really hope those structures will be changed back really soon. Playing those tournaments is just super exhausting and boring if you Play a decent volume.
Uppercut took 11 hours until it was over yersterday and didn´t even had enough Players for the guarantee, so might even last longer in the future...
Making every tournament except the KOs this slow is the worst decision, poeple who are limited in their time for a session will now just play less tournaments per day.
09-28-2017 , 07:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mico93
Really hope those structures will be changed back really soon. Playing those tournaments is just super exhausting and boring if you Play a decent volume.
Uppercut took 11 hours until it was over yersterday and didn´t even had enough Players for the guarantee, so might even last longer in the future...
Making every tournament except the KOs this slow is the worst decision, poeple who are limited in their time for a session will now just play less tournaments per day.
Even Uppercut 2 with less than 200 runners and with a deal in the end took 9 hours, which is totally too much.
09-28-2017 , 08:00 AM
why are they randomly changing some tournaments structures? They are just wasting time when instead they could have a better overall schedule, it's like they will do anything to keep the current schedule.
09-28-2017 , 08:04 AM
I like the new structures overall, however I think there need to be some tweaks. I think making it Variable Time Levels is pbb a fine solution.


Quote:
Originally Posted by jambo227
why are they randomly changing some tournaments structures? They are just wasting time when instead they could have a better overall schedule, it's like they will do anything to keep the current schedule.
bc apparently that is what recs wanted. start shallower and deeper play throughout then. I think that's fine, but execution needs some tweaking.

Last edited by LittleGoliath; 09-28-2017 at 08:09 AM.
09-28-2017 , 08:12 AM
10 / 12 / 14 min for 109$ / 215$ PKO is probably ok, and I think it would be better for regular tournaments as well although it is quite slow with new added levels. At least it is far better than current 15 min all the way. Turbos could use 6 / 8 min.

But really this is what pisses me on: 11:00 CET PKO using just 10 min blinds, 13:00 using 10 min / 12 min / 14 min variables, 15:00 uses 10/12/14 one but instead of 15 levels of late reg has only 12. Every single tournament have to be checked for structure for every day, that really must stop. Get that 15 lvl late reg for PKOs and 16 lvl for regulars, but stick with it and don't change it every day.
09-28-2017 , 08:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleGoliath

bc apparently that is what recs wanted. start shallower and deeper play throughout then. I think that's fine, but execution needs some tweaking.
So we are not getting any new tournaments to play? Is the main focus now on structures?
09-28-2017 , 10:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jambo227
So we are not getting any new tournaments to play? Is the main focus now on structures?
software is number one, tweaking structures a little bit meanwhile, and hopefully after monster series we can overhaul the schedule quite a bit. In the meantime I suggest you enjoy monster series which is coming soon

Quote:
Originally Posted by FarseerFinland
But really this is what pisses me on: 11:00 CET PKO using just 10 min blinds, 13:00 using 10 min / 12 min / 14 min variables, 15:00 uses 10/12/14 one but instead of 15 levels of late reg has only 12. Every single tournament have to be checked for structure for every day, that really must stop. Get that 15 lvl late reg for PKOs and 16 lvl for regulars, but stick with it and don't change it every day.
I agree with this ye
09-28-2017 , 11:22 AM
Does nobody calculate how long tournaments will last when they just randomly introduce a new structure? I really don't understand how boo-boo's like this happen. The idea behind a 100bb starting stack and a deeper late game is lovely, but if you execute it poorly it's not an improvement.
09-29-2017 , 02:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soepgroente
Does nobody calculate how long tournaments will last when they just randomly introduce a new structure?
as a random aside, no, i have never once done this in my career


agree @ many of the suggestions, havent rly been firing much party at all for a multitude of reasons. seems @ grand scheme of things (software updates, new sng lobby, new sng offerings, etc etc etc, the list goes on) that everything is moving at an absolute turtle's pace which is not a good look at all. understand a lot of stuff takes time, but some of this stuff, specifically @ sngs (since I'm more educated on the matter) has just been a huge punt by party thus far
09-29-2017 , 05:29 AM
He meant the site people who implement structures not you
09-29-2017 , 07:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdawg91
as a random aside, no, i have never once done this in my career
To clarify: I meant it's ridiculous someone at party didn't run any numbers and just implemented a new structure. Because surely if they had, they wouldn't have implemented this. It'd be nice if you didn't have to look at a structure as a player and could just trust the website it's reasonable. Again, as with all party changes they seem to be one step forward and two steps back. Then they get bad feedback and fix things and it's a proper step forward. New structures have the right idea but the execution is incompetent. Party is definitely at a better spot than 2 years ago, but the rate of improvement could be so much higher.

ED- what blakkman said

Last edited by Soepgroente; 09-29-2017 at 07:26 AM.
09-29-2017 , 07:43 AM
The Uppercut ran for 11.5 hours last night / this morning. Too long, particularly for recs.

Don't remember seeing anyone ever complain about the old structure, please revert.
09-29-2017 , 08:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mystic
The Uppercut ran for 11.5 hours last night / this morning. Too long, particularly for recs.

Don't remember seeing anyone ever complain about the old structure, please revert.
Absurd for a daily. Il be skipping until it's fixed

      
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