Pads was the one who came up with the MTT structure on Party iirc, pretty uncalled for

That said, there definitely needs to happen something with the schedule. LG's screenshot says it all and there should really be a wide variety of buyins and formats. I get that you can't just create timbey after timbey and slap a nice gtd on it, but there is no reason that the schedule should end up being this dull. Except for at 8pm of course, when all the tourneys in the world suddenly start

Also, please make some effort wrt software. I don't know if it's worse on Bwin than on the Party client, but on there I think it's such a drag to even reg a few tournaments there. It got a bit better with betsliders but still has a long way to go. If it were comparable to Pokerstars software, I would reg every single 22$-55$FO errrryday and be way happier than adding some bs stars timmay. You can really keep increasing your share of the market by constantly improving on stuff like this! BTW, if you're not sure what exactly I mean with software improvements; just browse stars lobby and your lobby and notice the difference in how smooth things go... And that's the last time I'll mention that company itt because I really like the way Partypoker is going! Just get me to play it more please

There are so many easy fixes and so much things i absolutely no idea what you are doing, either you have a real masterplan or i just dont get it.

You pumped like 60k each week into Winningplayers spending those Punta Cana packages, which i think was just a braindead move at all.

What you could have done with this money is insane, but you choose to give HS players more and more. You bring more and more Higher Buyin Games instead of making lower Buyins better. Seems like you doing all for the HS player and dont give a **** about mid-lowstakes player. You invested so much money in overlaying all the 109s which i do not understand.

Rebuys are overlaying pretty much everyday and only regs play those games as they are overlayhunting, why dont you give up those games 22r and focus on games which are running?

Try to biuld lowstakes Rebuys, where rec players can fire bullets. 3r 5r and 10r, 20r is completly nonsense as most rec wont play them and esp with those grt no rec will play those games.

Back in the days you had good 10r 5r which are working but you got rid of them for no reason, bring back a 3r 3k 5k 4k and a nice 10r with 5-7k. Its insane better to overlay in those games then overlaying in games where only regs are playing.

Back in the days you had great turbo rebuys which everybody loved to play, why dont you bring those games back with the same structure or adjust the structure to 10 +10 +20k Addon.

You are punting money away which is just not neccassary, starting times of games are ****ty as hell. 215Fight should start earlier and not later then now as its taking the longest time of all games, so put in @ 18:00CET or 18:30 or something like that.

Some easy things for sundays would be to increase 6m 22$ turbo to 4k and grow them.
Increase 55$ Buyin Games to 20-25k, when it overlays to crazy go down a bit, its better to biuld those games and have some overlay then HS games.

Increase grt of 22$ Buyins on sundays.

Seems like your mission is to punt as much money as possible to regs instead of biulding your pokersite and give this money to recs that they can biuld games, where regs gonna fire anyway as the games would be soft. Right now its so ****ed up as every reg is playing. Xout site became one of the toughest for 50$+ Buyins. Every other site is way softer, thats bc you reward all the regs with overlay special 60k a week and nothing for recs, idk what to say else, invest in recs and **** those regs, they are making money anyway.

There are so few buy-in levels because Party is not interested in small stakes recs moving up the stakes. Party wants positive cash flow. Probably they rely on deposits from mid and HS players who are unhappy with Pokerstars. A Rec who deposits $30, moves up stakes and wins HS major would be a disaster for Party. I wish I were wrong but I don't think we will see any improvements on satellite system or more buy-in levels for small stakes players.

I am fine with playing a few $5 games per session or 10%-15% of my total volume.

Have you checked out our new leaderboard promo for this week?
20th - 28th

Good luck at the tables!

https://www.partypoker.com/whats-goi...aderboard.html

yes we checked it out, more free money for high stakes regs.


+1000 to schmette's latest post

What a surprise, another promo for high stake regs and **** all for low stake players.Getting boring now

Hi Colette,

I hate to keep sounding like a broken record, but it doesn't appear any progress has been made with your Omaha Hi/Lo games.

I just had another look at the schedule and the difference between your PLO and PLO8 offerings is huge. However, when I look at the turnout of the micros between these two games, the gap does appear to be that wide.

Here are the #s from today's PLO and PLO8 games (all times EST):
9:30 - $5.50 PLO8 - 163 runners
12:00 - $5.50 PLO - 154 runners
14:00 - $5.50 PLO - 175 runners
15:00 - $5.50 PLO8 - 158 runners

Besides the PLO8 at 11:30 (which is a turbo), all of the PLO8 games are $5.50 or lower. Whereas, PLO has a $109, $109 and $22 at 12:00, 14:00 and 14:00, respectively.

I am currently in a position to play more poker in the next few months and would love to open your software and play some hands. I currently play on Pokerstars, 888, ACR, Bodog and Unibet.

I am suggesting the following additions:
*13:00 - $22 PLO8 (6-max with re-entry) - $1500 guarantee
15:00 - $11 PLO8 (6-max with re-entry) - $1000 guarantee
*Sunday Special - buyin of the $22 goes up to $109 with a $5000 guarantee

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its so absurd what you are doing, seems like you are on a mission to fail hardly.

Idk what your team is doing srsrly, it seems like they are getting paid amount x when they spend amount y?! And then they start punting money as your pokermanager gets a bigger salary?

Idk what it is but nobody undertsands what your are doing.

You are spending approx 1kk on this dumb leaderboards and approx 950k of this money will go to REGS who are playing anyway when games are soft. When you stop punting money those regs will not play any longer as your games a right now as tough as hell (BI 50+).

Why dont you spend every week this 40-60k into recs?!
Give tickets 5-22$ to inactive players that those come back.
Give relaod bonis.
Give freerolls for recs, christmas calender, everday a nice freeroll and so on.
and so on...........

And by far the worst part of this MTT leaderboard punta cana was, that regs were able to win mutiple Packages, some regs collected 6-8 pkg, i mean WTF?! If you want to give players a nice experience in Punta cana its whatever, but to give regs 6-8 pkg is just absurd. You should have made max 1 Pkg and so more and more players would be able to win on the leaderboard, instead the same regs sharen the leaderboard prizes and noone else had a chance, bc you had to probaly multiaccount to play 7days every 109$+ Buyin game, which rec is able to do this?!

URGENT!!!

You have a Online day 1 for the concord million tomorrow as I see in your client. Information says "Players will play 16 levels which is the online equivalent to the live starting days playing down to 10 %. "

Could you please just make it play down to 10% as all other flights of this tournament do (or, to be more precise, play down to an average stack of 250k as some flights have different starting stacks & BIs)

Imo playing a set number of levels is massivly unfair to players if all other flights are playing down to a certain percentage of players.

This x100

But realistically it doesn't matter Because our suggestions are never taken into consideration regardless of how many of these posts are made.

+12345

More promo's for tournaments that only a few hundred people play? FeelsBadMan

Some real good free brainstorming in this thread for PartyPoker if they so choose.

I do not understand the strategy wrt the leaderboard prizes for 109+? You realise that you are just giving free money to the regs that will be playing on your site regardless.

Few things you need to do;

- Improve the overall ecosystem by increasing the amount of micro/lowstakes (otherwise your 109+ are just going to get very reggy and people will stop bothering)

- Pump money into rec players, not the best regs on your site, leaderboards are by far the worst way to do this. (giveaway random tickets, deposit bonuses for people who have been inactive etc etc) Low, mid, high stakes regs are not going anywhere so funneling all your money to them is a bad idea.

- change up the start times of your tournaments so they dont all start at the same time. (starting an MTT at .30 .15 occasionally)

- Fix the late game structure of a lot of your tournaments that end up shallower than most turbos late game.

I don't know if it is common but I have recieved reload bonus offer on casino games. No desire to use it, LOL...

Just saying, if you were to add any good structured tournies in the $11-50 bi range, I would snap replace my similar stars tourneys in my schedule for those, and I think, many players would do the same.

why not add another timbey at 20cet. are you guys even trying?

lol

i have no idea who is in your teams but it feels like they are living in a complete different universe, did your team ever played poker on a higher level or do they have anything to do with poker before? At least people get the feeling that your team is completly clueless.
Why is nobody of your team writing here on their own? Instead your team is hiding behind a real good job doing Colette. I dont really get it at all.

Here in this forum a ton of smart informed people from the insight who are playing for years and are willing to give feedback for free.

Why you still have 22+ which overlays daily?!
Why you dont push 55 Buyin on sundays?
Why you make silly promotions?
Why you punt so much money to regs instead of recs?
Its always such a fight with your team, structure took such a long time, now its better then before but still could be better. Better stuctures where suggested several times, but nothing happened, your team seems to not understand the problem with structures at all.

SKO was next topic which comes to my mind, it was mindblowing how long it took your team to change the rake to "standard" Rake, why was that such a big problem? It couldnt be money for the extra rake charged, as so many games overlaying and your sites is punting money all the time, this was a "problem" which could be solved in 1day. Instead your team told over and over again its their decision?!

Please dont get me wrong at all, your team was every right to do what they believe is a good decision but it seems like they have no plan at all. Only plan seems to give money in regs to grow your pokersite which is abdsurd.

Players wanted to have some rebuys, your team put a 11+ 1,5k grt, a 22+ 2k ?!?!?
WTF is this?
Those games are not attractive to anyone execpt players who playing them bc they overlay all the time. So why the hell do you still have those games? Either you have a good solide grt and a good running mtt or you dont. 2k grt is a desaster and should be deleted asap .

50FO on sundays :
888 offers 20k 25k grt on their 55 Games, Their is a curve of attractivness which has pull and push factors to mtts.
a 55 with 3k has pushfactors as its not attractive to play, this changes at some pint, on sundays you have 7,5k grt, when you make it 10k grt more players would be at least interest but would skip it bc other Sites offer games which have a higher attractivness-factor (AF). So you have to put a grt on your mtts which creates a higher AF then your competitors can create.

Best examples for high AF are your 16 18 20 CET 40 50 150k. your 22 FO 25k has a high AF.

Your 100t sunday22:00 High AF as it is 30k , your 23:00 109t 10k low AF and so on.

With your 50fo sunday you could easily create a high AF by making them 20k and more people would shift their action to those games .
Same for your 109SKO sundays , make it 40k and it will work, 15k is for a sunday to low.

Weekdays its the same with some games. 22 6mt could increase grt and increase AF, maybe it will overlay for a bit but will have easily a potential of beeing a 5k grt for the future. You nitpickinh here and steal this mtt a chance to biuld.

Your mtt promotions are the worst for a site who wants to build a playerbase.
Support lowstakes players and esp rec players, those players need an incentive to play online again. Regs will get an incentive to play when games are good, you are investing your money on the wrong site which everybody understands.

So more topics, starting times, more KO games as recs tend to like those. 6m turbo ko.
109t ko which is struggling.

That is happening every fkn day and your team has no clue and keep this game running. Everyday ridic overlay, but hell yeah keep it running, today on a thursday it only overlayed by 33$ per player and hell yes 26 regs playing it exactly for that reason?!

Uppercut overlayed by 95 Players.

Seems like your plan to punt more and more money to regs was a very smart decision as those players are chilling on your costs in ounta cana right now.

LOL

Please PP, hire Schmette as a poker consultant! The team could really use him.

-fix starting times

why the heck has nothing changed here? 99% of forum users here have the same opinion. Trust me, I know a bunch of them, and these are the guys that play your games day in and day out. I just really can't understand it. One of the actually good things Stars has done with their schedule overhaul in spring was to give it a clear structure while spreading out the games Big @ :00, hot @:15, Bountybuilder @:30. Other stuff in between. You almoste never have two flagship tournaments starting at the same time throughout the day and if you do, one is sub 25$ and one is 100$+, so the main playergroup targetet is different.
Just nobody understands why you would have everything starting at 20:00, especiallly on a sunday. Title fight took until after 8 in the morning CET last week. It's just a nobrainer to move this one earlier as it has a lot of runners combined with a 20 minute clock so even for people who start after 20:00 CET on sundays (which almoste noone does) you would still have 50BBs for the remainder of level 6.


-fix games
I've been saying this for months, but despite nothing happened, I'll do it again: Do something for low/medium stakes tournament players. Decent garuantee low BI rebuys & turbos have always worked and not overlayed. They do need to be somewhat attractive though. That 10+ 10k you had @20:30 with a Big Addon was loved by so many players. Reinstall it! It's just extremly important that you put some tournaments out there that are attractive for people who don't want to wager 3 digits for one buy in. For the sustainability of the games, please make sure you fill your schedule with attractive low stakes tournaments.


-fix sattelites (esp. for live sattys, info sometimes confusing/wrong)
Yesterday's Concord Million online flight was another example of how screwed up sattys are most of the time. Tournament itself (21:00) was 600$ BI and there where two direct Feeder, one at 19:00 (5 tickets guaranteed) and one at 21:00 (2 tickets guaranteed), both of which were 109$ BI. Now there were 22$ Subfeeders to those, I think 3-4 of them, a major one beeing at 17:00.
The 5 ticket guarantee had a minimum of 7 entrants. Unfortunatly though, the 17:00 was not done by 19:00. It took until 19:15 or something, and the 5 ticket guarantee got canceled due to a lack of players. Now this is not rockets science, it was obvious way before it started that it would not be finished by 19:00 (average @19:00 was 25BB, no multi seat satty ever finishes with that high of an average). Why do you make a sat tree and than screw up that hard with the starting times?
Also, "Read more" info was wrong for the 109 feeders. It said "must be able to travel to Concord Montesino in Austria 29th November - 5th December." or something like that which is wrong, since after surviving the online flight players are allready qualified for the final which doesn't start till december 2nd. Pretty bad if someone reads that and thinks hm, not gonna play it, I can't go to Vienna for a whole week.... well, the wouldn't have had to.
Those mistakes are really just unprofessional, I find no other words for it.

-fix e-mail support
5 weeks before Punta Cana I was contemplating going there and mailed a list of crucial questions to the support which I was not able to find answers to browsing the CPP homepage. It took 4 (!) weeks to get answers (after getting non-answers after like 8 days I should admit). I mean wtf is this. Pumping thousands of $$$ into this event every week with promotions but not haveing a competent enough support to answer questions in a somewhat acceptable timeframe? (Colette got me the answers via pm here on the forums within 3 days despite beeing 1 of these days out of office, and this is not her major responsibility) Seriously?


As Schmette has allready said: your plan is really not understanable to me.

It almoste feels like for some ******ed reason "The Team"/ Poker management gets paid by key data such as "BIs wagered" or whatever not careing about overlays/sustainability. Or you are trying to sell your poker buiss and try to bump turnover figures pre merger as much as possible, whatever it may cost. would actually explain why you reintroduced (overlay included) some 215$ major after changing your sunday major to 109 form 215 caus that didn't work anymorelike 2 years (?) ago instead of working on a schedule to grow a solid player base and actually gaining sustainable market share, which would be easily possible.

I hope this last paragraph was really just some cynical BS on my part, but cmon, seriously, why are you screwing up on so many different things. You've put so much into it, made a lot of things right, but kind of blew it all by tremendous mistakes, and yet you refuse to admit them and work on improvements.

Some really good stuff written above. I echo all of it.

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yes we checked it out, more free money for high stakes regs.


+1

How many months over 109 buyin players had those punta cana promos?

Still have this 109$ ticket that I don't know what to do with and it expires dec 4th. Am I really being forced to play something that I hope I don't win because I don't want to go to a live event?

This is Building a Poker Site 101. It's ridiculous that players have to keep saying it over and over. You have to build the pyramid from the bottom up. When I could play on PokerStars I played a $3 tournament with over 4,000 players and final-tabled it for a $384 cash. That got me (and my wife) excited about what I could do with poker, and it only happened because of all of the microstakes options, including $1 SNGs and MTTs of every size and type.

That's what every player wants,to be able to put $50 on a poker site like I did and maybe, with luck or skill, win some money.

You have to build a site starting with the lowest buy-ins. That's the base of the pyramid. If you don't have that, the pyramid will fall.

its not only you, several players have this problem, they cant play any games bc they dont want to play live mtts in EU.

Party should extend those tickets which players got in the first place in the big OGP, where party gave all players which ended itm such tickets, but only offered live mtts to play.
Thats another thing which is completely absurd.
I really understand why you did it but why you force players to play live qualifiers if they dont want to play them?!
Really makes no sense to me, either you offer more OnlineGP, where people can use this tickets or you change the system.
Some tickets couldnt been used for month now if you were not able to play last OGP.

The least you could do is to extend those tickets for 365 days or whatever.
Nobody wants to play day1 online and has to blind the stack away on day2 bc they dont can play the livemtt, makes sense huh?

You need to act ASAP in this case as those tickets expire 4th december, people want some clarification.

When i read that your support needs weeks to answer question it seems to be fun for those players to contact the support now, lol.

Just make all tickets usable for whatever tournament the player wants to play. You win a $109 ticket, you can use it for any online or live MTT. Wtf!? What's so hard about that.

The current system feels sort of scammy. Why would you be actively discouraging people from registering to satellites? They are going to stop playing them if they have tickets they can't use.