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09-22-2015 , 09:52 AM
LOL
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09-22-2015 , 09:54 AM
First you killed my favorite tourney, the 5 X 5. Now you killed the $10 super stack. That makes you a double douche!

I don't see a lot of reasons to play there any more. For those people saying dwindling numbers is because customers have lost confidence in the site is not true. The numbers are dwindling because of the full-****** changes being made to the tournament schedule. Every time changes are made I'm watching the numbers drop...sheer coincidence?

I have a fool-proof plan to bring customers back. You need to concentrate on offering more micros with good gtds, the people who play micros will play some low-limit tourneys and will sometimes take a shot at the higher ones too but if you keep killing micros you are destroying most of the customer base as people don't have the chance to climb up any more.
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09-22-2015 , 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ChoakMyDee
First you killed my favorite tourney, the 5 X 5.
Thats like almost the only tourney got better
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09-22-2015 , 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by HorvatH
Thats like almost the only tourney got better
Got better? Are you high? They dropped the guarantee and moved it to a time slot where nobody is online. Got better. wtf.
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09-22-2015 , 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ChoakMyDee
Got better? Are you high? They dropped the guarantee and moved it to a time slot where nobody is online. Got better. wtf.
Yeah, from a zzzzz 9max regular speed multi-entry that I've never had the desire or intention of playing it became an action packed turbo which is perfect to load around finishing my session, so personally I'm looking forward to it also making me leaving the client open past the 22:00 turbo... Point of view tho
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09-22-2015 , 11:49 AM
They got rid of the $10 Super Stack that started at 16:00 WET?
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09-22-2015 , 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by UPAY4DINNER
They got rid of the $10 Super Stack that started at 16:00 WET?
And replaced it with a far better version ($25 buy in)

It has better pay outs now.

The improvements are good guys, the lobby just needs more mtts
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09-22-2015 , 12:44 PM
Wtf who comes up with this kind of ****? Not a single HSMTT. Won't even be firing ftp on sundays now
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09-22-2015 , 12:54 PM
Before getting to actual responses, I'm just going to quote myself for a second:

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Originally Posted by Shyam Markus
To keep everyone's expectations realistic:

The main goal with this update isn't to increase the number of tournaments, or the guarantees. The main goals are to lower the average buyin across the schedule (I think the current average is somewhere around $22 and the new average is $16-$17, so it's pretty significant) and decrease the number of "filler" tournaments that weren't doing anything so we can focus attention on the guarantees that remain.

So it's going to be very understandable when a good number of you in this thread (especially the higher stakes players) hate the new schedule, and all I can really do is apologize in advance. We'll still have some higher buyin tournaments to play, especially on Sundays, but on a daily basis the buyins likely won't fit your play.
I wasn't joking there, and it's not at all unexpected that the main reaction so far is negative.

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Originally Posted by Danshiel350
if you can condense the schedule down to a level where some of the guarantees are good, then please consider paying more than 10%.
I forgot about that in my last update. We're definitely still planning on doing this. We're working on a new payout structure (for 6 and 9 handed tournaments, anyway) that will pay 14-16% of the field instead of the current 9-12%. I don't know exactly when it will go live, but it should be this year.

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And i def think you should explore 5-max further!
We changed Five By Five and Monday Mayhem to be 5-max, and we'll see how those go. I agree it would be fun to add a few more to the schedule.

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Originally Posted by KingKoopaa
Is there an abundance of rush rebuys and regular rebuys alike?
No, and I know how much you love them, so I'm sorry about that. If anything, there are less rebuys than before. The ones that are still around are the most popular ones, though.

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Originally Posted by straykatbluz
PLEASE leave Ben and T. rex
T-Rex is sticking around, but Ben didn't survive the cut, sorry.

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Originally Posted by jdAA88
please bring back the Tenner as well as the $11r rush
The Tenner was getting around 50 players, so it didn't survive the cut.

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Originally Posted by JayJay00297
Antes from start plz in the 17.00 cet Super Stack
We've updated the various Super Stacks to all have antes from the start. Let us know how that goes.

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Originally Posted by Uhrenknecht
could you implement 25cent tickets to the FTP store? (wouldnt mind 5/10cent tickets either). It's suck that you can't play the 0.25$ super turbo on demand (or the 5-25c satellites)
I'll look into it, but I don't see why we couldn't.

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Is this 'the new schedule'?
Yep.

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Hardly any difference?
It depends on what you played. There are quite a lot of differences overall, but a good number of the most popular tournaments stayed the same.

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Please say there's more to come Shyam.
There will always be changes, but what you see is the current schedule. I'm sure we'll make some more additions and changes this week and next in response to feedback and how the schedule behaves, but nothing (apart from PSKOs when ready) is already in the pipeline.

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There has to be some rebuy tournaments.
There are 8! 3 are non-Rush.

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Originally Posted by KingKoopaa
A $10 multi entry rebuy, at a suitable time. I believe that will generate a good prizepool on a daily basis, and gives the lobby at least one decent rebuy that isn't a rush.
It's unlikely we'll be getting a $10r into the schedule any time soon, as the last few didn't generate enough interest. Sorry about that.

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Originally Posted by Itsover9000!!
so you reduced the buyin of your majors and a bunch of other tournaments only to make them met and e.g. when you use all 3 entries in the sunday major your buyins are $300 total instead of the old $250 for 1 entry?
The Sunday Major was a 2x re-entry, not a single entry. We've changed this Sunday's Major to be 2x MET instead of 3x, though. So that's a total possible buyin of $200 instead of the old total possible buyin of $500.

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Originally Posted by buffyslayer1
Why was the 50fo 9am gmt time cut along with the early fiddy at 1pm gmt?
The $50 at 4AM ET was cut because it averaged under 50 entries as a re-entry. The Early Fiddy averaged right around 40 entries.

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There is now no mtt in that time slot at all, they could have at least been replaced by say an 11r or a 25fo or something?
There's a $25 the hour before (which will still be in late reg at that time) and the hour after, but you're right that it's just a $10 in that spot now.

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Originally Posted by Furo86
even the 10$ super stack was removed which was one of the biggest daily 10$ tournies left lol
We've added back in the $10 super stack, although one hour later (noon ET). We'll see how that goes.

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Originally Posted by JohnBoyWWFC
Triceratops starting stack decreased to 4k for some reason.
Mistake. Back to 5K as of tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by Ohu18
What KO Tournies are there now without Brawl?
Yeah, this schedule is quite light on KOs at the moment. It's pretty much just Mama Said Knock You Out at 9AM ET and a couple of Kitchen Sinks. We're working on Progressive Knockouts, though, and when that's done we'll for sure be adding some of those into the schedule.

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Originally Posted by KingKoopaa
the lobby just needs more mtts
We're seeing if the opposite was actually true. It's very possible we needed fewer MTTs in the schedule to focus player's attention to the ones that are still there. If we can grow the guarantees that remain (especially the green and red ones), that should allow us to naturally grow the schedule again.
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09-22-2015 , 01:04 PM
pls sell your software to 888
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09-22-2015 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Shyam Markus
Before getting to actual responses, I'm just going to quote myself for a second:


I wasn't joking there, and it's not at all unexpected that the main reaction so far is negative.


I forgot about that in my last update. We're definitely still planning on doing this. We're working on a new payout structure (for 6 and 9 handed tournaments, anyway) that will pay 14-16% of the field instead of the current 9-12%. I don't know exactly when it will go live, but it should be this year.


We changed Five By Five and Monday Mayhem to be 5-max, and we'll see how those go. I agree it would be fun to add a few more to the schedule.


No, and I know how much you love them, so I'm sorry about that. If anything, there are less rebuys than before. The ones that are still around are the most popular ones, though.


T-Rex is sticking around, but Ben didn't survive the cut, sorry.


The Tenner was getting around 50 players, so it didn't survive the cut.


We've updated the various Super Stacks to all have antes from the start. Let us know how that goes.


I'll look into it, but I don't see why we couldn't.


Yep.


It depends on what you played. There are quite a lot of differences overall, but a good number of the most popular tournaments stayed the same.


There will always be changes, but what you see is the current schedule. I'm sure we'll make some more additions and changes this week and next in response to feedback and how the schedule behaves, but nothing (apart from PSKOs when ready) is already in the pipeline.


There are 8! 3 are non-Rush.


It's unlikely we'll be getting a $10r into the schedule any time soon, as the last few didn't generate enough interest. Sorry about that.


The Sunday Major was a 2x re-entry, not a single entry. We've changed this Sunday's Major to be 2x MET instead of 3x, though. So that's a total possible buyin of $200 instead of the old total possible buyin of $500.


The $50 at 4AM ET was cut because it averaged under 50 entries as a re-entry. The Early Fiddy averaged right around 40 entries.


There's a $25 the hour before (which will still be in late reg at that time) and the hour after, but you're right that it's just a $10 in that spot now.


We've added back in the $10 super stack, although one hour later (noon ET). We'll see how that goes.


Mistake. Back to 5K as of tomorrow.


Yeah, this schedule is quite light on KOs at the moment. It's pretty much just Mama Said Knock You Out at 9AM ET and a couple of Kitchen Sinks. We're working on Progressive Knockouts, though, and when that's done we'll for sure be adding some of those into the schedule.


We're seeing if the opposite was actually true. It's very possible we needed fewer MTTs in the schedule to focus player's attention to the ones that are still there. If we can grow the guarantees that remain (especially the green and red ones), that should allow us to naturally grow the schedule again.
The issue with this approach looking at it from my point of view wrt to the 9am 50fo

There is now nothing in its place so essentially you have no mtt starting for 2 hrs from the pheonix to the 25fo re entry

I would imagine most players are playing 2 tables plus anyway so with 2hr gaps in the schedule there is not really much incentive to log in at those times as there is literally nothing starting for 2 hrs. So essentially lots of players (recs included) will choose another site at this time

I would get it if u added even a 5r rush or 10r rush or something with what you are doing but this kinda makes no sense

I have not looked at later afternoon or peak to much but I would guess you don't have to many huge holes such as this.

When you get pko functionality I would suggest a 10 pko or 25 pko in those slots btw
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09-22-2015 , 01:14 PM
I gather what you're saying Shyam, but I feel my suggestion for 'The daily rebuy' is a must. With the success of the superstack tournaments, this can exceed the prizes in both those tournaments with the implemention of rebuys, and multiple entries.

For a $10 buy in, I would expect to see over $2k for 1st which would be great.

Please can you just give it a trial run, and give it a $6-7k Gtd. I expect that would do the job.

Please consider this and +1s are welcome.
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09-22-2015 , 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Aguskb
pls sell your software to 888
Lol, that would be great, 888s mtts running on FTPs software
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09-22-2015 , 01:49 PM
Shyam I think it would be better to standardize and restructure the whole schedule, with some new series introduced.

A few ideas across 2.5, 10, 25, 50 buyins. Find a cool name for each also make badges visible at the table like medals for winning them. (Like Mega-stack champion etc)

Mega-Stack
Super-Stack
2nd Chance - the multi-stack format is there just make it 1 token w/ 3000 stack
Turbo
Rush
8-max
5-max
Omaha
Legacy - this could contain the 10 current most popular ones in their identical timeslot

Than also make the most popular/best time slot games a signature one across all buyins, like the Big/Hot series on PS.

Also please stop offering all the non-guarantee tourneys, at least for NL Holdem. If their traffic doesnt indicate a guaranteed prize I think it means theres no demand for them at all on the players side. Its like 80% of them getting voided and the rest plays as a long 2-table SNG.

I think the player pool would also benefit some "bankroll builder" series like the daily dollar across day with 0.50 and 1 buyins.

Introduce much more turbos off-peak. Regular speed requires a serious investment in time from recreationals, for most of them its simply just not worth it off-peak.

Please do something about satellites as well. Those are need a lot of standardization and being made less numerous. I think the best would be offering a 10% regspeed, 20% turbo, 25% superturbo in the previous 1,5 hour timeframe to the target and thats it. Most of the satties plays as WTA and that not appealing I think for anyone. Also please make the leftover cash rewarded to the last place finisher instead of splitting it over 3-4 places.
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09-22-2015 , 02:21 PM
Shyam, I'm not sure you realized what you did to your HSMTT schedule. Removing the Big Ben is whatever. I understand having less tournaments, and making them good. However, the HSMTT regs who played the Brawl/Major/Fat Tuesday/Supersize as the bulk of their FTP volume aren't even going to bother with your site anymore.

I'm also not sure you quite understand how much we hate hate hate METs.

For the sake of FTP as well as HSMTT regs, please do something before it's too late.
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09-22-2015 , 02:38 PM
When should we expect to see some commercials on TV? I recall hearing by the director that the increase in rake was necessary to get more recs on the site. How is a rec going to hear about the changes at Full Tilt?

Overall you've got the right idea by lowering the offerings in both numbers and price but you've failed to fix the satellite offerings which are a huge part in getting recs into the target tourneys. When will there be a revision in the satellite offerings?
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09-22-2015 , 02:54 PM
When is the next MFTOPS?
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09-22-2015 , 02:57 PM
Imo, the $25 daily NLO8 re-entry was a great tourney. Only thing missing in it (and most other NLO8) MTTs were there being no antes throughout the tournament. There wasn't much action during the re-entry phase and as a result, prize pools weren't maximixed.

Also, any update on a potential return of gotw in some form?
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09-22-2015 , 04:32 PM
I don't understand why the Double Deuce was changed to $10 - my second favourite tournament of the week after the old Sunday Brawl but will never enter it now

Has The Unicorn gone as well? Wifey will be furious - she wants that avatar more than anything lol

Last edited by sparky999; 09-22-2015 at 04:44 PM.
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09-22-2015 , 06:25 PM
The rake free satellites were a great way to get into the Brawl and Major, although you never made the most of them at all by differentiating them from other sats. I realise that poker sites don't want to mention the dirty word of rake, but I hope this isn't the end of rake free sats for the bigger buy ins and maybe you can promote them much more and make them stand out in the lobby!
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09-22-2015 , 06:50 PM
Why are these 25c 12man on demand sngs marked as super turbo, when they're clearly short stacked turbos (500 chips, starting at 10/20, 5m blind levels).

Reasons for not showing short stack turbo symbols here?

Also in the info box "Tourney Types" you are missing the Super Stack symbol. Since you might have to update that and enter a new line for it, showing a small stack option could be easily put in there to.
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09-22-2015 , 07:21 PM
lol wow this is so bad

quite disappointing
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09-22-2015 , 07:24 PM
I'll still play a few, but if you move to paying 15% that will probably be the last straw
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09-23-2015 , 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Aguskb
pls sell your software to 888
This
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09-23-2015 , 01:44 AM
"Wednesday Whatever" - Pretty much the perfect name to describe Full Tilt in 2015. There isn't a single tournament with a measly 10k gtd on your site today, during the last week of WCOOP.

You basically don't even exist.
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