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02-27-2015 , 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Shyam Markus
There's definitely a gap there for non-turbo $50s specifically, but there's a turbo $50, and lots of $25s and $100s in that gap, and they all compete for very similar players. 17:30 ET is probably the closest I can see to a "good" time for another $50, but that's quite late for Europe (22:30 or 23:30) so I wouldn't expect it to get good numbers really.
Stars has a 55 10k gtd that starts at 10pm gmt and often also an EPT sat/local tour sat at that time too which are the last reg-speed tourneys I usually play (I assume this applies to a lot of Euro regs). I would probably play a $50 on ftp then too but wouldn't necessarily want to one table something with a structure similar to the trex for ages especially if it didn't have that big of a prize pool which is likely the case, to start at least. Could be an excellent spot for a semi-turbo to end the night for a lot of people.
eg. maybe same blind structure as thurs thrasher w either less chips or the level times increasing a little slower than every two levels once the tournament gets going.

I don't think it's a good idea to start it later than 10.15pm gmt since stars mid/hs reg speeds have the tourneys I mentioned at 10 and then 22.30 55c, 22.45 33q, 23.00 100q, all of which take a long time to play out so I think it's very common to stop reg-ing in that gap and end your session with all the turbos that start around then.
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02-27-2015 , 04:55 PM
25 turbo rebuy same time as 109 turbo rebuy on stars, regs would reg the **** outta that and ur site is all regs
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02-27-2015 , 05:28 PM
top post shyam. thanks for listening to a bunch of ideas and responding etc.

glad to see the early fiddy minimum entrants reduced as it will likely never cancel now and it should have little effect on the overlay numbers
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02-27-2015 , 05:36 PM
I think the $100 200k mtt is something that needs much more thought, obv you didn't get the guarantee but it was such a great tourney and so much potential in it, I think a once a year thing is a waste
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02-27-2015 , 07:04 PM
Agree. You should make the Sunday trex a 100k guarantee and really push it. Clearly people come in drives for the big ones. I am 100% sure the Sunday trex could use that. And then Mae that very tournament a quarterly brontosaurus with 200k guarantee. PM me with job offers
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02-27-2015 , 07:17 PM
Can you reduce the min entrants in Monster rebuys to 6 from 9. They never run at 9 (and they never will) barring significant player growth. At 6 players there is only the slightest degree of a higher chance of an overlay that wouldn't occur with 9 players as 75%+ of the players will be late reggers.


As per the "classic" not performing to your expectations and therefore shelving it for a year, this is just another example of Full Tilt trying something that's unique and quitting because it didn't catch on instantly. I don't think this should be a monthly thing because it would dilute the prestige attached to it. This should be run 4 times a year and named after the seasons. Full Tilt Spring Classic, Full Tilt Summer Classic etc. The next time it runs the numbers will increase assuming the players on Full Tilt remain stagnant.
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02-27-2015 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Shyam Markus
The worst result would be a leaderboard that only rewards people who "already play a good portion" of the tournaments. If the pro players are the players who end up always winning the leaderboard and they don't have to change their behavior at all to win, we're just throwing away promotional money that could be spent somewhere else to encourage players to actually want to play more. We're definitely going to make some changes, but the details haven't been worked out yet. I wouldn't expect any changes before the end of Summer, at best.
Perhaps it's a good idea of a leaderboard including only specific tourneys - something like FTP Notables (w double deuce, triceratops, the 8$ turbo with avatar, also the daily 'specials' and so on, maybe the 250$ Sunday) /also you need good sats for the daily 100$ - at least 2 slow ones and 3 turbo ones (normal turbo, not hypers; 10$ bi preferable)
That way people have a bit more motivation to stick and play and fields are gonna get bigger, which will attract new players into the site. Now, I personally skip a lot of days and when I play I don't bother the small 'special' or the avatar turbo because of the small 1st prizes, while I have a lot of similar tables at stars.

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Not weekly or monthly, that's for sure.

It was mostly meant as a one-off to introduce players to the new buyin levels. If it was a smashing success we probably would have considered running it more often, but given the fairly mild success (and admittedly really positive feedback) it might end up being more of a once a year type of series.

As I said it was really nice to have it and I felt it was better than the 250$ Sunday major, I do see that probably you can't force it every month, but you definitely can make it with a lower gtd once Monthly. Winamax and 888 have a Monthly 1k and Whale which are really successful, so you won't have any problems with a 100$ 100k or 150k

Thanks for being here!
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02-27-2015 , 08:48 PM
First time note this thread. I used to play handful of NLO8 / PLO8 tournaments in Full Tilt, when you still had weekly 109$ NLO8 / PLO8 and handful of daily tournaments (at least some 11$ ones) which also have been removed. With removal of those, I stopped playing in Full Tilt altogether and also removed most O8 tournaments from my tournament calendar (from Stars mainly) because I couldn't play reasonable amount of them due to bad offering during European prime time. Also, playing with 0 rakeback is major turndown morally, even if I usually got 10% or 15% rb from EDGE which I wouldn't have got just playing those 2-3 midstakes O8 tournaments that were left. Currently in mainly play Texas NL MTTs on about half a dozen other sites.

After this little whining, few suggestions:

- Return at least NLO8 "weekly major". I understand you don't want overlays, but with just NLO8 weekly Sunday with let's say 100$ buy-in and 5k$ prizepool and decent satellites (like one turbo rebuy sat daily and 3-6 in Sunday) you could improve your NLO8 program a lot.
- Return some NLO8 11$ tournaments. Like add one turbo 11$ NLO8 for late European evening (like 16:00 EET) would also improve situation which is in Stars that they have 0 midstakes =8 MTTs between 15:35 and 17:35 EET. Start with 300$ guaranteed and raise it if it grows sustainably.

I think NLO8 / PLO8 is seriously under-represented in online poker world in general and in Full Tilt in comparison to what the potential is. People really like to play it, but problem is that there's not really much offering.
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02-27-2015 , 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by blakkman08
Agree. You should make the Sunday trex a 100k guarantee and really push it. Clearly people come in drives for the big ones. I am 100% sure the Sunday trex could use that. And then Mae that very tournament a quarterly brontosaurus with 200k guarantee. PM me with job offers
benjamin would be much better than TREX. TREX is already super late and that tourney lasted a really long time
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02-28-2015 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by FarseerFinland

After this little whining, few suggestions:

- Return at least NLO8 "weekly major". I understand you don't want overlays, but with just NLO8 weekly Sunday with let's say 100$ buy-in and 5k$ prizepool and decent satellites (like one turbo rebuy sat daily and 3-6 in Sunday) you could improve your NLO8 program a lot.
- Return some NLO8 11$ tournaments. Like add one turbo 11$ NLO8 for late European evening (like 16:00 EET) would also improve situation which is in Stars that they have 0 midstakes =8 MTTs between 15:35 and 17:35 EET. Start with 300$ guaranteed and raise it if it grows sustainably.

I think NLO8 / PLO8 is seriously under-represented in online poker world in general and in Full Tilt in comparison to what the potential is. People really like to play it, but problem is that there's not really much offering.
+1
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03-01-2015 , 05:30 PM
is there any chance for daily 4-6max tournies in the future?
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03-02-2015 , 07:37 AM
Is there an option to turn off getting e-mails when you win a satellite (or make day 2), I might be missing it but it would be nice to have the option under "Change E-mail Notifications".
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03-02-2015 , 08:40 AM
Pretty sure this has been said a million times before, but, please can you add places paid to the information box pop out?
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03-02-2015 , 09:42 AM
Thought the classic was brilliant. I don't even open Full Tilt on a Sunday sometimes but that day the classic main event was marked as the number one must play event of the day. You did a great job satting people into it. I see no reason why you can't do something like that every month, maybe drop the guarantee a little if you want to be conservative and just sat people into it all month.

Also I can't understand why the $55 7.5k superstack is not huge. It is an accessible buy in at a great start time in Europe. There is no reason why this tourney cannot me making 400 players every day like the Monsoon on 888. It just needs sprucing up and promoting.

Good job on making improvements though so far. I like the direction the site is going but it is tough to get that traffic back
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03-02-2015 , 09:46 AM
According to the success of 888s mid stakes, the gimmicky names do seem to atrract people.
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03-02-2015 , 10:00 AM
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Thought the classic was brilliant. I don't even open Full Tilt on a Sunday sometimes but that day the classic main event was marked as the number one must play event of the day. You did a great job satting people into it. I see no reason why you can't do something like that every month, maybe drop the guarantee a little if you want to be conservative and just sat people into it all month.

Also I can't understand why the $55 7.5k superstack is not huge. It is an accessible buy in at a great start time in Europe. There is no reason why this tourney cannot me making 400 players every day like the Monsoon on 888. It just needs sprucing up and promoting.

Good job on making improvements though so far. I like the direction the site is going but it is tough to get that traffic back
+1 to the bolded
I've been vocal about wanting a new $50 mtt partly due to the relatively tough alternatives I see when i look at how I can use my tickets.

One idea I have is to move it to the Dino-slot and give it a new name/avatar. But I suspect you don't want too many games popping off at that time through fear of hurting the T-Rex.

My favourite idea is to maybe just do something like you do with the 19:00 GMT $100's and vary it daily.

Monday 6-Max, Tuesday Escalator, Wednesday KO sort of vibe, etc etc

There's a lot you can do here. And whilst the Super Stack structure is great, it seems a waste to have this as your only $50 offering at peak time when it seems there is big demand for something more.

A third idea OTOH, why not swap the Fiddy Turbo for the SuperStack.
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03-02-2015 , 11:04 AM
Another advocate of improving the $50 Super Stack here, or having a another, bigger, daily $50 game around this time. This alone would significantly increase traffic to other FTP tournaments imo. Why not offer new sign ups a free $5 satellite ticket to the tournament? you could do the same as a reload bonus? Call it something enticing, encourage satellite qualifiers to it, you could easily make a $20k gtee work daily, just look at the 888 monsoon. And FTP is a better product...
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03-03-2015 , 11:35 PM
+1 to giving it a name so it attracts more people, agree with above could/should be making 15k like the monsoon
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03-04-2015 , 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Danshiel350
There's a lot you can do here. And whilst the Super Stack structure is great, it seems a waste to have this as your only $50 offering at peak time when it seems there is big demand for something more.
Is there demand for a $50 MTT on FTP? No, or this MTT would get more numbers.

What there is clear demand for is big, special, interesting MTTs. People don't play the $50 deepstack because it is small and seemingly uninteresting. There is no demand for small, uninteresting tournaments.

Events like the Classic show that FTP can pull numbers, there just needs to be something interesting to pull those numbers.

My personal idea would be to run once or twice a week major tournaments for all stake levels. For example, if this was the Fifty Dollar Fifty K Tuesday I bet FTP could get 1000 runners. Esp because of the Super Tuesday. This would boost the schedule all day, get some people to deposit on FTP, and maybe open the client more often.

I'm rambling here but I'd scrap the current offerings at 13:00ET and replace them with a rotating selection at different buyins.

I'm out of ideas and tired. But the point is there is demand for big, interesting tournaments. They don't need to be every day for every stake level, but putting up MTTs that people will get excited about can help rise the tides of all the daily offerings. If you got the guys who play the Super Tuesday to log in and fire some games on Tuesday that makes them more likely to log in on thursday, ect. I'm sure the same could be said for all stake levels. When I used to play small stakes I'd have been thrilled if one or twice a week there was a special tournament I'd look forward too. I doubt theres much on FTP for those guys right now.
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03-04-2015 , 05:33 AM
I feel sure that there is demand.
It seems strange logical that this would be the case given that they are able to support 3 x $100 mtt's daily and multiple $25's.

I fully agree that a tournament needs to be "spiced up" to add interest, that's what I was trying to suggest.

I dfinitely think the buy in level most lacking in the peak time schedule is the $50.
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03-04-2015 , 05:48 AM
It's kinda pathetic how 50$ get almost abandoned when like 5 years ago FTP was a beast who was about to kick stars in the butt.

I think it is incredible hard to believe that your 50$ games get less runners than the 888 ones.

FTP still has way better support and soft than 888 years ahead, this shouldn't go to waste like it feels now.

I see the satellite section is ramped up and maybe you can throw out a ****load of tournament tickets in freerolls (starting with the 0.05$ ones) so people can play their way into all of the higher tournaments if they're excited enough again.
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03-04-2015 , 07:43 AM
I just noticed you dropped the min player requirement to 6 for extended and monster rebuys to the FTOPS and yesterday you actually got them to run and without overlay. Never would have expected that. Who knows the same thing might happen for the Sunday Major/Brawl.

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03-04-2015 , 07:59 AM
FTOPS opening same day as the huge Sunday million.

Would be nice to see some ambitious guarantees and promotion in client for some "deadline" type satellites for these games.
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03-04-2015 , 08:20 AM
FTOPS should be huge for players who put some money on the site to play the 9M and just busted. Some reinforcement from stars to emphasize on the connected cashier and give out free tickets to FTOPS satellites for players who pair their account.
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03-04-2015 , 10:36 AM
Ftops running parallel to ept is just some bad joke. It's like they are asking fur overlays
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