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05-06-2011 , 07:20 PM
ez game as always IMO
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05-06-2011 , 07:54 PM
Played a session tonight, I like it. No big changes imo
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05-06-2011 , 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by locomi
Played a session tonight, I like it. No big changes imo
played a small session there now, like you say no big changes just a bit weird.

Like say 1200 chips you automatically know what your doing at 25/50 + 50/100 with whatever hand but when its 40/80 i have to have a 2nd look of whats going on, did anyone else find that?

Obv will be ok after a few sessions but its jus something i noticed
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05-06-2011 , 08:01 PM
Yeah they could a dropped the structure change, but I like the buy in levels
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05-06-2011 , 08:05 PM
absolutely ridiculous if they don't bring back the $3.30R 180man turbo. hope it's a mistake that will be fixed soon
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05-06-2011 , 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Laois Hammer
played a small session there now, like you say no big changes just a bit weird.

Like say 1200 chips you automatically know what your doing at 25/50 + 50/100 with whatever hand but when its 40/80 i have to have a 2nd look of whats going on, did anyone else find that?

Obv will be ok after a few sessions but its jus something i noticed
Try adapting to different structures and situations and not becoming a robot. Gl progressing
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05-06-2011 , 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by locomi
Yeah they could a dropped the structure change, but I like the buy in levels
The new buyin levels suck balls. I don't see how anyone would like them. Your old fishy buddies who used to play in, say, $12, will now go to $10.85. Being a good grinder, you now follow them to $10.85. Assuming ROI is the same, you now just take a 9% pay cut. DUCY?

Same goes for other levels. The new buyin levels are VERY bad for both 180man and 45man grinders:

$12 -> $10.85 = 9% paycut
$27 -> $21.7 = 20% paycut
$38 -> $32.55 = 14% paycut

Am I missing something??
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05-06-2011 , 11:06 PM
yeah you missing something

and there where no 21 180s before. They probably play as a 12 too.

This is marginally positive or negative either way, I'm more sceptic about the structure changes.
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05-06-2011 , 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Rowniwn
So no more 2s 7s 12s.
Now its 1,3,5,10, 21.

Good job stars.
what?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

no more 12/180s? they are 9+1 or 10+1?!

what about 36s?!!?!?!?
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05-06-2011 , 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DaviBocce
The new buyin levels suck balls. I don't see how anyone would like them. Your old fishy buddies who used to play in, say, $12, will now go to $10.85. Being a good grinder, you now follow them to $10.85. Assuming ROI is the same, you now just take a 9% pay cut. DUCY?

Same goes for other levels. The new buyin levels are VERY bad for both 180man and 45man grinders:

$12 -> $10.85 = 9% paycut
$27 -> $21.7 = 20% paycut
$38 -> $32.55 = 14% paycut

Am I missing something??
But $12 rake used to be $11+$1 which was 10% rake, and $10's are only 8.5% rake, which will provide at least a 1.5% ROI boost, and I can see a lot of fish who used to play the $7s now playing the $10s/used to play the $12s now playing the $20s which should give some boost, right? Plus I'm going to be playing the $10s instead of the $7s which is like a free 10% ROI to you all!
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05-06-2011 , 11:32 PM
structure of 180s used to be as follows:

Turbo Structure 2 - (fast)
level - blinds
1- 10/20
2- 15/30
3- 25/50
4- 50/100
5- 75/150
6- 100/200
7- 125/250/25
8- 150/300/25
9- 200/400/50
10- 300/600/50
11-400/800/75
12- 500/1000/100
13- 600/1200/125
14- 800/1600/150

turbo mtts that follow this structure include:

>$2/7/12/36 180 mans

(full post...)

what is the new structure?

thanks.

ps: not being allowed to play makes me feel very sad
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05-06-2011 , 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by donniccolo
structure of 180s used to be as follows:

Turbo Structure 2 - (fast)
level - blinds
1- 10/20
2- 15/30
3- 25/50
4- 50/100
5- 75/150
6- 100/200
7- 125/250/25
8- 150/300/25
9- 200/400/50
10- 300/600/50
11-400/800/75
12- 500/1000/100
13- 600/1200/125
14- 800/1600/150

turbo mtts that follow this structure include:

>$2/7/12/36 180 mans

(full post...)

what is the new structure?

thanks.

ps: not being allowed to play makes me feel very sad
New structure goes like this...

Spoiler:
1 - 10/20
2 - 15/30
3 - 20/40
4 - 25/50
5 - 30/60
6 - 40/80
7 - 50/100
8 - 60/12
9 - 75/150
10 - 100/200/20
11 - 125/250/25
12 - 150/300/30
13 - 200/400/40
14 - 250/500/50
15 - 300/600/60
16 - 400/800/90
17 - 500/1k/100
18 - 600/1.2k/120
19 - 700/1.4k/140
20 - 800/1.6k/160
21 - 1k/2k/200
22 - 1.25k/2.5k/250
23 - 1.5k/3k/300
24 - 2k/4k/400
25 - 2.5k/5k/500
26 - 3k/6k/600
27 - 3.5k/7k/700
28 - 4k/8k/800
29 - 5k/10k/1k
30 - 6k/12k/1.2k


3 min levels

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05-07-2011 , 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Pascal-lF
But $12 rake used to be $11+$1 which was 10% rake, and $10's are only 8.5% rake, which will provide at least a 1.5% ROI boost, and I can see a lot of fish who used to play the $7s now playing the $10s/used to play the $12s now playing the $20s which should give some boost, right? Plus I'm going to be playing the $10s instead of the $7s which is like a free 10% ROI to you all!
$1 / $11 = 10% ?? No it's 9.09%. A 0.6% difference between old and new rake.

I do not buy the statement of "fish who used to play the $7s now playing the $10s/used to play the $12s now playing the $20s" - I mean I too wish it's true. But I see people who are used to playing $12s, will migrate to $10.85, NOT $21.7, because $21.7 is almost double their old buyin level.
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05-07-2011 , 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by locomi
yeah you missing something

and there where no 21 180s before. They probably play as a 12 too.

This is marginally positive or negative either way, I'm more sceptic about the structure changes.
See above post. I think what's more likely to happen is people from old $12 will now play $10.85, not $21.7. So regs will have no choice but load up $10s.

I could be wrong though. I guess give it a week or two and see.

For 45mans, the new buyin levels are a more clear-cut ****-up. Because the migration pattern is very likely:

$6.5 -> $5.43
$12 -> $10.85
$27 -> $21.7
$38 -> $32.55
$60 -> $54.04

People who are making a living grinding 45mans just got ****ed in the rear whether they realize it or not. Gonna love Fridays

(btw, I used to play 45mans, now planning to relocate and go back to 45mans. now this . And, I don't know what I am doing in the 180man reg thread)
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05-07-2011 , 03:57 AM
Hey guys, just wondering, will the new blind structure really affect variance in the 180s?? I see some people in the forums saying it would actually reduce variance a little...
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05-07-2011 , 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Laois Hammer
played a small session there now, like you say no big changes just a bit weird.

Like say 1200 chips you automatically know what your doing at 25/50 + 50/100 with whatever hand but when its 40/80 i have to have a 2nd look of whats going on, did anyone else find that?

Obv will be ok after a few sessions but its jus something i noticed
yeah gonna chill out on the table numbers while i get a good feel for these
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05-07-2011 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Pascal-lF
New structure goes like this...

Spoiler:
1 - 10/20
2 - 15/30
3 - 20/40
4 - 25/50
5 - 30/60
6 - 40/80
7 - 50/100
8 - 60/12
9 - 75/150
10 - 100/200/20
11 - 125/250/25
12 - 150/300/30
13 - 200/400/40
14 - 250/500/50
15 - 300/600/60
16 - 400/800/90
17 - 500/1k/100
18 - 600/1.2k/120
19 - 700/1.4k/140
20 - 800/1.6k/160
21 - 1k/2k/200
22 - 1.25k/2.5k/250
23 - 1.5k/3k/300
24 - 2k/4k/400
25 - 2.5k/5k/500
26 - 3k/6k/600
27 - 3.5k/7k/700
28 - 4k/8k/800
29 - 5k/10k/1k
30 - 6k/12k/1.2k


3 min levels

wow thanks!

50/180s paying $2700 to 1st? gtfo!

USA get your ish together!!!

have fun fellas !
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05-07-2011 , 12:49 PM
yeah but doesn't seem like they fill tho, hope that will change!
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05-07-2011 , 08:03 PM
all this talk of the new structures is now getting boring, give it a couple weeks and see whats what eh?

anyway, I'm new to this thread, fasteddy14 on stars, how much do i suck?
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05-07-2011 , 08:43 PM
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I'm excited to see these for myself. Currently on a holiday in Melbourne with no Internet access - I could get an ethernet cable but I'm thinking I could use a break from the Internet anyway (except iPhone obv). No SCOOP for me either! See y'all in a couple weeks
have a good time mate!
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05-08-2011 , 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by fasteddy14
all this talk of the new structures is now getting boring, give it a couple weeks and see whats what eh?

anyway, I'm new to this thread, fasteddy14 on stars, how much do i suck?
About the same as me / which is a lot.
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05-08-2011 , 08:38 AM
Moving to the 10.85s, seems like a good time with all the USA grinders gone and the new buy in levels makes it less of gap when grinding 180s. Im sure some will say that the new buy in levels isnt a good thing but it allows people to move up faster. Here's hoping the 20s take off big time
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05-08-2011 , 02:43 PM
Sundays are hard to take when u cant play and 54 dollar 180s make me sadddddddddddddd.....i wanna play 1
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05-08-2011 , 09:00 PM
Good job with the timebanks stars fruitloops, now when someone times out they take out 1/3 of a level, really, great thinking there
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05-08-2011 , 09:08 PM
So how did new 180s sunday went?
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