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MTT ACR 11$ Boski 4th out of 1300, Final table ICM suicide? Could have coasted to 2nd place MTT ACR 11$ Boski 4th out of 1300, Final table ICM suicide? Could have coasted to 2nd place

11-14-2021 , 05:21 AM
https://cd-hh.co/GCXmm ( check decide hand history link)MTT ACR 11$ Boski 4th out of 1300, Final table ICM suicide? Could have coasted to 2nd place and 1300$... Hand history included, all criticism welcomed. I am not regular at MTT's and usually play cash.
11-14-2021 , 09:13 AM
I am sorry, I can't make heads or tails out of this website, it asks me to review 135 hands or whatever, it has a ton of your hands and I can't find Boski's hand.
11-15-2021 , 12:04 PM
Its his hand. He is at the FT of "the Boski" on ACR, $11 MTT. Its the very last hand, 135/135


Fold pre IMO. Q3o is a **** hand, even to a maniac open.

Postflop is whatever. We are happy to get it in but shoving flop lets him fold his random overs where he might peel to a smaller bet
11-15-2021 , 12:54 PM
Ok, thanks. Pre marginal at best.

Flop, don't shove! And you got called by literally the bottom of his calling range.
11-16-2021 , 01:44 AM
I probably just fold pre, I hate one-card hands in final table table situations. When we're this short and ICM is relevant, preserving our stack to use in better situations matters, too-- those chips you spend to defend are more valuable than when you're deeper or the payouts don't matter yet.

Post is why I don't like pre; it's hard to call down with a 3 here, especially when it's easily counterfeited, and if you push you're almost always getting called by better, sometimes drawing virtually dead to trips. Even when you get called by worse, you're never thrilled about your equity. (In this particular spot you've got 51.9% equity, which is not where you want to be all-in as a short stack at the final table given the ICM implications.)

I'd probably flat mid-high suited connectors and jam Ax/Kx/pairs/Broadway suited connectors. I might fold the worst Kx hands, and sometimes flat bad to medium Axo hands depending on the raiser, but suited Ax/Kx I would jam. If I knew raiser was opening hands like Q5o I'm just jamming all Ax hands.

(Aside, I busted someone at a recent final table on a similar hand-- I just completed AA pre to induce a shove from the 10BB big blind, but they checked. Flop was 663, I led out the minimum and they shoved with J3. Maybe that's why I was interested in commenting.)

Last thought: I'm not sure where your confidence that you can coast into 2nd is given that you're the short stack and you'll have less than 13BB if you fold, but if you believe that's true, you should definitely fold pre here. You stand to lose much more than you stand to gain by defending with a hand like this in this situation.

Last edited by nath; 11-16-2021 at 01:53 AM.
11-20-2021 , 03:56 AM
ACR 16.5$ 5th place out of 550, should have played better at the final table? Link to my last part of the tourney in check decide(poker hand replayer/trainer) https://www.checkdecide.com/hand/U2F...ggslCBSkX11Pro
11-20-2021 , 03:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nath MTT ACR 11$ Boski 4th out of 1300, Final table ICM suicide? Could have coasted to 2nd place
I probably just fold pre, I hate one-card hands in final table table situations. When we're this short and ICM is relevant, preserving our stack to use in better situations matters, too-- those chips you spend to defend are more valuable than when you're deeper or the payouts don't matter yet.

Post is why I don't like pre; it's hard to call down with a 3 here, especially when it's easily counterfeited, and if you push you're almost always getting called by better, sometimes drawing virtually dead to trips. Even when you get called by worse, you're never thrilled about your equity. (In this particular spot you've got 51.9% equity, which is not where you want to be all-in as a short stack at the final table given the ICM implications.)

I'd probably flat mid-high suited connectors and jam Ax/Kx/pairs/Broadway suited connectors. I might fold the worst Kx hands, and sometimes flat bad to medium Axo hands depending on the raiser, but suited Ax/Kx I would jam. If I knew raiser was opening hands like Q5o I'm just jamming all Ax hands.

(Aside, I busted someone at a recent final table on a similar hand-- I just completed AA pre to induce a shove from the 10BB big blind, but they checked. Flop was 663, I led out the minimum and they shoved with J3. Maybe that's why I was interested in commenting.)

Last thought: I'm not sure where your confidence that you can coast into 2nd is given that you're the short stack and you'll have less than 13BB if you fold, but if you believe that's true, you should definitely fold pre here. You stand to lose much more than you stand to gain by defending with a hand like this in this situation.
Makes sense, should have folded, In theory it is a defend but in reality
11-22-2021 , 07:11 PM
Yeah, at this point of the game it's really a lot more important to do the effective tournament strategy thing-- leveraging the fold equity of your stack, not setting yourself up to bust, making the ICM-necessary adjustments to the equity you need to call off your stack-- than it is to do the mathematically correct ChipEV thing.
12-06-2021 , 11:33 PM
Bovada 12$ 500 participants 4th place for 400$ all hands in CheckDecide replayed

It finished early in the morning thus missed couple hands(missed KK while running to bathroom...), misclicked AA all in with 100+ bb and got called by KK

all important hands with comments and some screenshots

https://www.checkdecide.com/hand/U2F...Us075%2FQ08KG0 hands in replayer
12-07-2021 , 08:11 PM
You might be better off making individual threads for specific hands you have questions on-- it's a lot to ask people to watch an entire hand history, or at least, I have trouble imagining doing it unless someone was paying me for coaching.

      
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