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07-17-2022 , 04:27 PM
Hero has bled down card dead and has 6.5 bb in co. There is a utg2 limp and it’s on us. Jam or fold QTo? There is a bb ante too. Nowhere near min cash.

Thanks,
DT
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07-25-2022 , 12:20 AM
$10 Sunday MTT on Stars Ontario. Probably 6th blind level at this point with 10 minute increments in blinds so nowhere close to the money as of yet. Is this 4bet never NOT AA/KK? Am I a nit for wanting to fold this? Does shoving over MP ever get him to call with worse?

PokerStars, $9.10 + $0.90 - Hold'em No Limit - 80/160 (16 ante) - 8 players
Hand delivered by Pokeit

UTG: 7,541 (47 bb)
UTG+1: 11,612 (73 bb)
MP: 9,102 (57 bb)
MP+1 (Hero): 22,645 (142 bb)
CO: 22,826 (143 bb)
BU: 8,361 (52 bb)
SB: 10,298 (64 bb)
BB: 9,936 (62 bb)

Pre-Flop: (368) Hero is MP+1 with A K
2 players fold, MP raises to 416, Hero 3-bets to 1,200, 4 players fold, MP 4-bets to 2,800, Hero ?
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08-27-2022 , 09:09 PM
Seeing some weird preflop raise sizes on ACR micro stakes Sit N Gos, like people raising 20%+ of their stack at 20bb with MP with K7s, or 40% w/ 11bb UTG with JTo. Btw, this happening far from the bubble.

I know this is a terrible question with an obvious answer, but I wondering if there was some kind strategy behind this? ��

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I know this is a terrible question with an obvious answer
ACR micro stakes Sit N Gos
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08-29-2022 , 10:16 PM
Gunna go with: No
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08-30-2022 , 11:27 AM
Also a no. I think their 'idea' is to make what appears to be a pot committing raise, leaving themselves the room to fold with certain hands. Whether they are doing this in any sort of intelligent way is vanishingly unlikely.
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03-21-2023 , 08:22 AM
1$ turbo on ggpoker.

20 left, im 4/20 with 25bb in CO and chip leader is behind me with 65bb in big blind


LJ open jams to 8bb, I have 10s in cutoff. To be honest, I'm not sure if 10s are all in isolate because of the chip leader behind me and I have little to gain and much to lose in this spot. My estimation is that this is the bottom in my calling range if not a fold but I might be results oriented here.

I also think this is never a cold call.

What are your thoughts from the ICM perspective?

BB calls with AKo, LJ has A5o and BB catches a king. Im out.

Now that I think about it, 10s are probably a call nonetheless and it was quite unfortunate that he woke up with a good hand. He also seemed like he loves to gamble, definitely not GTO.
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03-22-2023 , 06:21 AM
TT is a very easy rejam here.

Tens are a huge hand, especially in a turbo where you can't pass up any spot. You should be substantially ahead of an 8BB shove's range. There are very few hands that dominate you. Even the hand that called you you're almost 57% to win. If you do win you're in the kind of dominating position that can win it. At 20 left the pay jumps aren't significant enough yet to worry about ICM, and your chip lead in a turbo structure is illusory.
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03-22-2023 , 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by random231
1$ turbo on ggpoker.

20 left, im 4/20 with 25bb in CO and chip leader is behind me with 65bb in big blind


LJ open jams to 8bb, I have 10s in cutoff. To be honest, I'm not sure if 10s are all in isolate because of the chip leader behind me and I have little to gain and much to lose in this spot. My estimation is that this is the bottom in my calling range if not a fold but I might be results oriented here.

I also think this is never a cold call.

What are your thoughts from the ICM perspective?

BB calls with AKo, LJ has A5o and BB catches a king. Im out.

Now that I think about it, 10s are probably a call nonetheless and it was quite unfortunate that he woke up with a good hand. He also seemed like he loves to gamble, definitely not GTO.
I actually think you can cold call this, because ICM is a real thing once you get down to 3 tables, and there are going to be scenarios where you want to call and then fold against a shove. I'd probably just call the 8BB and then call-off TT to a shove, but we can certainly take a hand like 77 or ATo and call the 8BB shove, intending to fold to a jam. Calling rather than shoving give us some options and lets us get away if the action behind us goes crazy.

If I'm going to jam, it's probably going to be with hands like AK/AQ more than TT+.
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09-10-2023 , 07:52 PM
Looking for advice on this hand: Early in a MTT, I have 59 BB.

I'm the BB, with AcKh. SB calls, I raise to 3.5, SB calls.

Flop is 4cTs3s. SB checks, I bet quarter pot, SB calls.

Turn is 9c. action checks around.

River is 9h. we both check.

Am I playing this wrong?
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09-18-2023 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BathRobeLife
Looking for advice on this hand: Early in a MTT, I have 59 BB.

I'm the BB, with AcKh. SB calls, I raise to 3.5, SB calls.

Flop is 4cTs3s. SB checks, I bet quarter pot, SB calls.

Turn is 9c. action checks around.

River is 9h. we both check.

Am I playing this wrong?
If you had an over pair to the board wouldn't you bet the turn? When you check you basically wave the white flag and say I have over cards and I give up.

You can argue a slightly larger raise pre, but as played bet flop bet turn and check river.
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12-19-2023 , 09:48 PM
GG Poker - 60,000/120,000 Ante 15,000 NL - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 18.96 BB
Hero (BB): 23.37 BB
UTG: 22.75 BB
CO: 54.6 BB
BTN: 101.32 BB

5 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.12 BB) Hero has K J

fold, fold, BTN raises to 101.19 BB and is all-in, fold, fold

BTN wins 3.12 BB
Quick check on if this is an okay fold button is VP 20 PR 17 3B 8 CB 50
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12-20-2023 , 06:04 AM
It in part depends on what point in the tournament you're in but for 23BB and my own tournament life it's hard to see many scenarios where I'd call off KJo.
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12-22-2023 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by nath
It in part depends on what point in the tournament you're in but for 23BB and my own tournament life it's hard to see many scenarios where I'd call off KJo.

Thank you


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08-02-2024 , 06:52 AM
Hi guys!

I'm a former SNG grinder haven't played online in several years, getting back this year playing mostly bounty tournaments on GG Poker. What confuses me is how much calling and shoving ranges change due to bounty?

Hand in question:
Middle stage of tournament, near the bubble but not there yet. Villain has stats 32/21/5 ATS 100 over 135 hands. So this means he's raising/shoving every button and small blind. He has 15BB, I have 50BB. He has solid bounty on him but nothing crazy.

It folds to villain in small blind, he shoves. I have 56dd what now?
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08-02-2024 , 11:01 AM
First step. Calculate what the bounty is worth in chips. Add that to the pot. Say, for argument sake the bounty is worth 5BB. You are calling 14 to win a pot that is worth 35BBs. You would need about 40% equity in this spot. Get yourself a free range calculator, like this:

https://openpokertools.com/range-equity.html

Put your hand and Villain's range in and see what you get. I gave Villain a 37% range, and we are about 38.5% vs that range. If he is shoving ATC you are about 43%.

One of the things I like to do in these spots when analyzing after the fact is solve for what range he'd need to be shoving for our call to break even; here it is about 69% of hands. Do we think Villain is shoving more/less than this? Then we call/fold base on that assumption.

The above doesn't take future game into account, nor ICM.

In a bounty tournament, it is vital to cover other stacks so that we can access other bounties. If the rest of the table has 15ish BBs, calling and losing here won't cost us much. If they have 35-50 BB stacks, losing the ability to get other bounties can be quite bad.

In a different scenario, where you have say 20BBs and there are a lot of 30ish BB stacks, you can call off much lighter, as now you will be able to access bounties that you couldn't before this hand.

You said middle stages of the tournament, so there is some ICM, but not much.

For more see Dara O'Kearney's book.
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08-04-2024 , 01:57 PM
Thank you. Great analysis.
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09-15-2024 , 11:46 AM
Hi Friends:

I played a monthly $350 local donkament yesterday and I have a bunch of hands to review. Here is the first.
My image is tight aggressive - opening a lot - but getting respect nonetheless. It seemed like everyone knew each other and were regulars at the club.

LEVEL 3 (Early Stages)

Hero min open KsTs from UTG w 160bb 8 handed.

I am using the min size to keep the SPR low - as about half the stacks were playing 30-60bb behind.

LJ calls, BU calls, SB calls, BB calls.

KdKhAc - 11bb

SB leads for 3bb. BB calls, Hero calls, LJ folds, BU calls.

KdKhAc (6s) - 23bb

SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 15bb, BU shoves for his remaining 44bb, SB folds, BB folds, Hero?

BU was a wealthy retired fellow, chatting with the dealers, showing off his house he just bought in Phoenix, was playing TAGGY and seemed to know something about pokerz.

I'm guessing mathematically it's a call - but if I am going to be exploitive it's a fold obviously... If it were IGGY I'd be snap calling - but with his stats which likely looked something like 16/11 ... I might even fold online as well... anyway - was my first "tough" hand of the donkament lol. Personally I don't like making hero folds especially when I cover.
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09-17-2024 , 10:52 AM
Not loving it but could be a lower suited king which makes sense. Aces don't make sense nor do pocket sixes. Our kicker is right on the line, definitely calling KQ/KJ and folding the lower kings. Wealthy retired fellows can show up with bluffs from time to time, we might have chop outs, and we're getting almost 3:1. Think it's a sigh call
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09-18-2024 , 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by LifeNitFL
Not loving it but could be a lower suited king which makes sense. Aces don't make sense nor do pocket sixes. Our kicker is right on the line, definitely calling KQ/KJ and folding the lower kings. Wealthy retired fellows can show up with bluffs from time to time, we might have chop outs, and we're getting almost 3:1. Think it's a sigh call
Thank you LNF ... do you consider KT a low king? Also why are you eliminating 66 from his range?
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09-18-2024 , 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by nonsimplesimon
Thank you LNF ... do you consider KT a low king? Also why are you eliminating 66 from his range?
Who overcalls an AKK flop after a bet and two calls with 66? A player who is "TAGGY and seemed to know something about poker"? You really think so?
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09-18-2024 , 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by DumbosTrunk
Hero has bled down card dead and has 6.5 bb in co. There is a utg2 limp and it’s on us. Jam or fold QTo? There is a bb ante too. Nowhere near min cash.

Thanks,
DT
Fold
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09-18-2024 , 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by nonsimplesimon
Thank you LNF ... do you consider KT a low king? Also why are you eliminating 66 from his range?
By lower I meant below KT. We are beat a lot by KQ/KJ but don't think we can lay it down considering odds and the overcall pre.
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09-18-2024 , 10:45 AM
Your preflop read is that you are getting a lot of respect for your raises. Yet, you go to a flop 4 ways after an UTG raise...

The bottom line here is this. Villain has Kx almost always. Is he calling preflop with Kxs? Then you have a call (but still not by a lot, K5s implies all KQ/KJo, IMO). If he isn't calling those hands, and he shouldn't be...this is a fold.
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