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Live MTT UTG raises and faces a shove from C/O Live MTT UTG raises and faces a shove from C/O

10-20-2023 , 05:42 PM
Live MTT 61 entries, 34 players left. Pays top 7.

Blinds 300/600/600

Hero has 14K
Villian has 6K

Table is 8 handed. Hero is UTG with KcQc and min raises 1200. Folds to Villian in C/O who shoves 6K.

I have played with villian a few times, he is a decent player, does not get out of line very often. He certainly is not a nit, but does not have a problem shipping his chips, I expect he will not show up with garbage.

Fold or call?
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10-20-2023 , 08:37 PM
Without running an exact estimate for his range... Getting these kind of odds you need to be about 35.5% to call so it's probably a call, albeit bottom of range. You still flip against a lot of pairs and are better than 40% when he's shipping Ax below AQ.

But this is just a math problem based on what you think his range is. If it's on the tighter side then it may be a fold.
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10-20-2023 , 10:58 PM
Looks like a call vs most reasonable ranges. Once villain gets very tight it becomes a fold.
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10-21-2023 , 07:57 PM
KQcc is too strong here to fold. Had an online poker coach tell me to never fold when I open and a 10bb or less jam behind as math is working in our favor.

Again it’s ok to fold say 22-55 as we almost always run into a flip or pure domination. KQcc is way way too top of range to fold to a 10bb jam here. It sucks when we run into AK or AQ but that is part of tourny poker (or even AJ/ maybe odd A5suited).
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10-25-2023 , 10:47 PM
I'm not sure if you've heard of M-ratio, but here the opponent's M-ratio is 4. Players are supposed to shove nearly any playable hand with M <= 6. With just one round around the table, your opponent's stack will dwindle by 25%. This is a desperate situation for your opponent, whether he realizes it or not. I would shove here with as weak as Q8s or QTo, and I'm an uber nit.

The only way this is a fold is if the player has no awareness of this theory and is entering 8% of pots despite his situation. Even then, you're flipping with some hands he would do this with such as TT or JJ.

Easy call imo.
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10-26-2023 , 01:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LifeNitFL
I would shove here with as weak as Q8s or QTo
That doesn't seem good vs. an UTG open.
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10-26-2023 , 01:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nath
That doesn't seem good vs. an UTG open.
You're right, I forgot that OP was UTG.

Just curious, what is the min you would go in with here against the UTG open against a standard player?
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10-26-2023 , 07:31 PM
A standard range for me once I get under 15BB is something like... 66+, AJo+, ATs+, KQs. With some flats of AA/KK and maybe a few suited Broadway hands to mix in.

At 10 you might widen it a bit-- 55, ATo, KQo, maybe KTs, maybe A8s-- but I would still prefer to be ahead of their opening range. Like JTs has decent equity but you're never going to be ahead, you know? Where with Ax or good Kx you might be.

There might be someone here with better advice to offer than I, since I always feel like I never know if I'm shoving too tight or too loose.
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