Hey all, have some hands from a tourny today I have questions about.
H1- first hand of tourny. 100-100 with no bb ante. Both antes are not at table so dead blinds. Utg opens to 300. 5 calls. I have 88 on button. Do you ever iso raise large here? We all started with 30k and is first hand. Table is mostly omc rec players. I elected to just call to hope to flop a set bc we can get into dicey spots here bc we prolly have to bet flop and possible turn when we whiff if we ISO. I elected to call and hope to bink a set and win a chunky pot in a lower variance style. Thoughts?
I would say we should iso here once in a while but prolly leaning toward calling high % at table with recs.
H2- much later in tourny I have maybe 200k at 2.5k bb level. Button with 73cc. I open to 5.5k and a good mtt reg flats button on maybe 30-40bb? Flop 688 with one club. Goes xx. Turn 4 no club. Goes xx. River 6. He checks and I bet 12k into 15k and he folds. I tell him im happy he folded and he said he didn’t think q high was good. I felt lucky bc I had no showdown but I feel I have a lot of Ax or Kx plus my hand has no showdown value. Are you good with 12k sizing? I feel we gotta go big with hand to hope for some folds when we have no showdown.
H3- this one is goofy. I have 160k at 3k level. I open to 6k in hj. Same good mtt reg 3! To 16.5k on a 65-70k stack. He has 3! Me like 3 times throughout day and I folded each time bc i didn’t have hand that could defend. Small blind is an older white guy that is a spazz and he calls.
He’s a punter bc he ripped a starting stack with A9 late in day after a rebuy on a 257 flop against another player and binks a river in a spot he has no fold equity.
I elect to just pile 100k into pot. Old guy might have 60-70k, and I felt good mtt player can be light at times or have ak/aq or even AJ bc I’m a young kid that is aggro and opening wide in hj based on stacks. Are you ok with this play? It’s def spotty and maybe not great but I feel he can light at times and we are most likely ahead of sb even tho his flat looks strong (it looks weaker based on player type- I can see him flatting kq or jq bc he seemed bad). I’ll say hand and result after discussion.
H4- early in day I open 33 to 800 at 400 level on maybe 26k stack. An aggro guy makes it 3.7k on button prolly on 30k I’ve played with before that is super aggro but solid tough player- he can be super wide here. Bb flats and utg limper calls. I know I don’t have odds to set mine but i feel based on fact we have more money in pot- I can call and give up bc action ends with me. Flop is 355. Goes xx I check and blaster bets 8k into pot. Two folds and I call. Turn is maybe an 8. I check and he puts a stack of big chips in to put me in and I snap.
You ok with this hand? He showed kjo drawing dead. He kinda complained yada yada but I feel i fold if it’s just one caller. I just feel when 2 recs omc call pre- we can kinda punt here and hope to flop a set and just fold when we don’t hit. Bad? Maybe but I feel with the 2 calls and we end action is slightly ok to do sometimes against right player that we know is going to punt off. I’ve played with guy and he’s super aggro even with no hand. If he checks turn I prolly lead river for 25-60% of pot unless it’s a scare type card which I would def check to him bc it’s like an auto bet for him. I’ve played with guy before and he tends to be the type (not many of these) that you can check to when you have a very strong hand bc he’s going to bet most likely. We have history in past tournies where I’ve checked very strong hands to him and he kinda spews in spots he shouldn’t.
H1: I guess sometimes you could squeeze but I'm not really a fan vs. the UTG 3x and your lack of blockers; you may have the best hand now but 3-betting basically turns it into a bluff because you can't continue vs. a 4-bet.
H2: What is your position? You say you're on button and that you get called by the button.
H3: What do you have?
H4: What position are you in? Did you minraise over a limp?
H1: flat all day long, can’t call 4! and we want as many customers as possible if we hit
H2: V is SB? 73cc too loose an open even on button. As played cbet something. solver seems indifferent between 1/3 to 2/3. Id probably go with 1/3 coz live rec is inelastic
H3: shove ok with AQs+ JJ+ AKo A5s or similar. Can call 22-TT and SCs - so hope you didn’t jam those. Keep in mind that SB calling helps you in a multi-way pot, as it’s much harder for V to run a stone bluff post into two defenders, and you don’t need to worry about capping your range by calling.
H4: not sure of pre action or sizing, but call here closing the action is fine. cc cc line against that kind of opponent is essential wp
H3 I had 10-10. A player criticized me saying he never has bluffs there. I’m like if he’s good, he has to have some 3! Folds I imagine but on 22bb- I might be wrong bad it might be 3! Induce type spot I guess? Idk if you can say it’s a 3! Induce per se but only 3! For value I means.
Final note- I ended up winning the tourny for a tad over 50k after running dead hot in spots on day 2. It was crazy. I never went under 30bb and just found ways to find spots and good hands when crucial times. At ft, I open AA to a min, guy 5x my open and I jam maybe 30bb and he calls with KK and we hold. Another player with all the chips wass open limping and a rec and he ended up kinding messing up aggression. He was aggro post to an insane point but pre he would open limp buttons and from all positions. Best player was short and ripped 10bb utg 4 or 5 handed I think and I have QQ and we hold. I chopped heads up bc it was so late and we played for maybe 13-14 hours? Maybe more but including the breaks which was insane long day.
Solid hand-
I think 3 handed- I open A6hh on button. Let’s say I had 30bb. Idk exact count. Older white guy that is blaster type but solid aggro post calls bb. We see A610 and It goes xx. Turn 6. Xx. River 2. He leads 500k, I make it 2mill with 2-2.5 mil behind? He quickly calls with AK. Do you ever rip river? At no point was I like will a river rip gets paid off. I felt his hand had to be fairly meh with how action played out. Did I massively goof by not c betting or betting turn. I guess turn is a bet sadly. I’m just shocked he had AK and didn’t 3! Pre. I know if I was in his shoes, I prolly would have lost my stack bc I would have 3! The AK and would have gotten wrecked post.
I considered ripping the river with 2-3 mill behind but I’m like I just don’t think he calls often enough bc his hand seemed on weaker side. Sorry if no sizings. I would guess his river bet was 4bb roughly.
Another just random note, the limpy player I tried to **** talk bc I wanted him to get edgy and do spewy things. He limps button. I have KQss in bb and make it 4x. He rips maybe 20-25 bb? I kinda quickly call and hold Vs JQo. I was not expecting JQo honestly. I felt my call was kinda iffy. Not sure on stack sizes but I felt he would have a lot of smaller pairs in that spot based on action and what types of hands shove.
He was owning me when I would complete small blind and he would raise most of the time (I assume he was doing it with strong hands bc he would bump back table a few times) where I would then bet 1bb and he would fold on certain board textures that would not favor a bb not raising. I ended up completing 10-5ss one time and he makes it 320k when bb was 120k and I go to 900k and he folds. I show it to try to get him to understand I can do that light bc I was playing very tight 3 handed in sb Vs bb spots due to icm and hoping the other 2 would battle and lead to a bust out bc they were playing some big pot with s lot of action post but pre being fairly passive. I ended up chopping heads up bc i was drained and didn’t feel like playing till 6-7am and having to work next day at 8-10am lol. I would almost never icm chop heads up if it was a shorter day.
Final crazy hand- kinda deep into money I had 30bb. Old guy raises and sb flats. I have A6ss and decided to get insane and 3! Large From bb. Old guy calls button. We see flop of Q72. I elect to say I can’t give up now. I cbet 1/5th pot and he calls. Turn 9. Goes xx. River A. I check and he checks and shows 88. I was surprised he called 88 there with ability to set mine or intention to turn hand into a bluff per se. I may have had 20bb. On turn I decided to shut down and go wow I think I made a massive blunder. I see river and go wow I’m prolly dead anyways bc he could have better A. He just checks back and I binked a miracle river. Idk I think this hand shouldn’t be a 3! There but idk maybe sometimes that is good when we think the sb is prolly dead money in pot if we get through the button. Button was an older white guy but I felt he could def be on lighter side if he’s opening button. Just found the spot worth taking if sb is folding a high % of the time to the 3! Which I felt was right.
H1. I am all on board with flatting, but why do you feel we 'have to' barrel 2 if we do squeeze?
H2. When you have stone bottom of range, you should, of course, tends towards bluffing. But, you can afford to bluff somewhat smaller, since you can target so much of Villains range as played, stuff like Q high.
H3 looks ok to me, those as OS points out, probably just under the right range.
H4 seems like a good call. The world has gotten a little smarter on set mining odds, especially against a good player when not closing the action, as we aren't assured of seeing the flop OR stacking the guy. Here, you have both things going for you; you close the action, and are likely to stack him when you hit, given your read, and the subsequent play.
You can do the ex post math yourself; how much did you put in pre, how much did you end the hand with. You know the odds of flopping a set, but there is some risk of still losing the pot, though apparently not much risk of getting his stack.
H1 - There is a lot in the pot already, iso is going to be ok but you will have to make it big to get rid of them all. You can flat too. The choice is, do you want a high chance to win a medium pot or a small chance to win a medium to high pot.
H2 - I don't think any made hands fold the river so I would size smaller, just big enough to get rid of the high card hands only.
H3 - Edit: I didnt realise the 3betters stack was 25 bbs, it's OK to get the chips in with TT in this situation and let the sb fold his hand. It isn't a great spot but I think it is too nitty to just fold it. At least call it and see a flop.
H4 - Perfectly fine to call. Nothing wrong with it and his aggressiveness means there is a good chance to realise your full equity when you hit your small set.
H1 - I think the default play is to flat this. I would consider 3 betting this, but usually it's going to be against players that have been opening a lot. Yes, you will at least fire one bet on the flop and give up. But it's ok, that will be good for your table image. Then you will start getting more action when you have a better hand.
H2 - This is too light to open, IMO. Also, I think when you bet so large, your range is polarized. It makes it more likely that you get called with A-high or a pp.
H3 - If you have a read, then I think it's fine with the dead money. But I think the lightest you should be in this spot would be 99+ or AQ. I think if you start doing this with some like 77, then you are getting into punt territory.
