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Originally Posted by 3for3poker
H1. Hard to see how you are going to get much value here when your flop play screams Qx+ or maybe TT? I guess you could be making some awful peel with KJ, but, no. Checking turn is just giving some 1 or 2 outers a chance to get there on the river.
H2. The limp reraise from that player type is just never anything but super strong hands. Maybe, you'll find the occasional AK, but, it is mostly KK+. That was even before the rest of the read, so, yeah, JJ is only a set mine there...
H3. Good squeeze.
Final hand. I'd guess the donk is something like 88, sort of a merge, getting folds from 2 overs and maybe even some 99-JJ with you in the middle. I know solvers don't lead here heads up, but do a lot more donk betting multi way. Bottom 2 pair, if he has it, is probably an ok candidate for that. I doubt he is supposed to lead the nuts there, even on a 2 flush board, but it is a good hand to start building the pot with against your weaker Ax and PP that are checking the flop.
Pair plus straight draw hands make some sense for the donk as well, so 44/55/34/24 etc.
I'd never, ever, never start giving strategy thoughts like you did.
H3- yea I’m not trying to be a douche but I just thought it was a goofy spot to lead for bb. This was a person that had a mask on and it kept falling below nose and dealers/ floor had to ask person to follow the rules so it was kinda obnoxious. A lot of things I see live mtt players do just make me laugh inside. I guess most people don’t study even a tiny bit though
I’ll post some hands from day 2 today that are simple but wanna hear if ok?
H1- we have like 140k at 2/4k and 30 from money so no real icm I feel. Button opens to 10k on 21-22bb stack (hasn’t been active so far but like young mawg). Sb flats on maybe 120-140k and is a snugger mawg I guess. I have J10ss in bb. I think and just elect to rip and they
Both fold. Think it’s a great spot to rip and take equity if they have a hand but feel they are going to fold a lot. I’m only worried about button honestly as I feel sb is probably stupid weak (he might have KQo or something goofy like that he will fold). We can call but against 2 villains I feel this is good spot to just rip and pick up 6bb when they fold?
H2- this spot is super odd. I open AQdd to 10k on 240k stack from HJ. Bb id a woman that seems only slightly competent and she rips 20bb. I hate to do it but I sigh fold. Think she has a lot of pairs and AK and maybe some AQ. Sure she can have AJ but I doubt it. I saw her also open to 8x from ep which odd in other hands. Think AQ is just a fold here.my AQ may have been unsuited but not sure.
H3- earlier in day I have 160k at 2/4k and open 99 to min 8k from LJ. Small blind calls, Old guy that is slightly spazzy rips 300k. I just sigh fold. This was prior to money- I think he has AQ/AK a lot here but also some pairs over mine so just an easy fold. I saw this older guy (who looked liked a redneckish omc) 3bet K9dd from button over a raise and call and then called off a SB woman jam of 20bbs (think he 3bet to like 8-9bb but not sure) think his call was just due to math obv. Do you ever wear the variance here and call 99. And also what hands are we calling when he just rips 300k over a 8k min raise? I’m going to guess JJ+ but just wanna hear people thoughts? I found ripping 300k over a min open and flat to be very odd bc he’s not doing that with AA or KK.
The old guy said he had AQ suited which I believe. Felt it was kinda punty spot to rip 60bbs? Am I wrong. Think it plays better as a 3.5-4x 3 bet. I’m only calling with maybe AK+ jj+ so idk what he was thinking (well he probably doesn’t think honestly).
H4- is this spot an easy cbet? I open AQdd from lp to 10k on maybe 320k. Bb flats- he’s a young looking kid that was playing online from cell phone prior day so I assume he’s very competent. Flops 236with one Diamond. Do we just cbet this flop always? I checked back. Turn 7 (not diamond), and he leads maybe 20k and I call. River J and it goes xx. He had A7o. Is it a big mistake to not cbet this flop small? I would guess yea but I felt the flop smashes his range and he can easily check raise a lot here. Maybe just bet flop and bet diamonds/A/Q on turn. Any thoughts on flop cbet sizing also? I generally go 25-33% when stacks are shallow around 30-50bb. Just feel he’s peeling a lot there and I shut a lot of turns down? Idk maybe I just gotta cbet that flop always.
BTW as always- live tourny poker is so juicy still. I see people opening to 4-5x on day 2 of a tourny near the money bubble and in the money. I still find it very odd why everyone isn’t min opening when the average stack size is 30-40bbs. It seems like such a leak. When you have hand you open and can’t call a 3bet, you are just giving away extra chips and making pots bigger postflop so you kinda gotta cbet more etc when stacks are super shallow. I’ll never understand people that open 2.5x+ when stacks are so shallow. Seems like such a leak. I also think some people will open super big with hands they are scared to play like 44/55 or AQ/AK to 4x bc they don’t wanna go to the streets. I just find some people making Goofy mistakes I don’t even think you have to study to realize- like when stacks are shallow- a min open is just as effective as a 3x raise plus you risk less when you have to fold. I also think people are timid of a bb defend. It’s sticky and can be tough sometimes but I welcome a bb defend against me when villian is out of position. I’m going to cbet most flops that favor my range super small and let them play fit/fold poker which I think a lot of live players do honestly.
One final theory question if anyone wants to discuss- how do you react to a 3x-4x open when stacks are so shallow? I find it so odd. I feel older players tend to open to larger sizes. I think they generally have much snugger ranges than someone like me. I think the bottoms of a gto range are probably folds for them however they do raise to a bigger size. Anyone got thoughts on how this should change our calling and 3 bet ranges / 3 bet sizes? I find it very difficult to adjust bc it’s odd to see people opening so large and when stacks are very very shallow at most important stage of a tourny.
Last edited by Jkpoker10; 01-09-2022 at 07:13 PM.