Context: 4 left, bounties are roughly $300 per head at this point. I think remaining payouts are 4th $1800, 3rd $2500, 2nd and 1st about $4.1k.

Yatahay Network - 2500000/5000000 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3 : http://www.holdemmanager.com

Hero (CO): 112,236,843 (22.4 bb)
BTN: 219,676,322 (43.9 bb)
SB: 100,041,843 (20 bb)
BB: 82,044,992 (16.4 bb)

4 players post ante of 750,000, SB posts 2,500,000, BB posts 5,000,000

Pre Flop: (pot: 10,500,000) Hero has Ks Ah
Hero raises to 10,000,000, 2 folds, BB calls 5,000,000

Flop: (25,500,000, 2 players) 8s 6d 5h
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (25,500,000, 2 players) 2s
BB bets 12,750,000, Hero calls 12,750,000

River: (51,000,000, 2 players) 7d
BB checks, Hero bets 88,736,843 and is all-in, BB calls 58,544,992 and is all-in

Results: 168,089,984 pot (0 rake)
Final Board: 8s 6d 5h 2s 7d

Hero shows Ks Ah: (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 46%, Flop 25%, Turn 14%)

BB shows 4h 4s: (Straight, Eight High)
(Pre 54%, Flop 75%, Turn 86%)

BB wins 168,089,984

Obviously it was a bad bluff because it didn't work. (Don't post results next time.)

In seriousness, what hands do you have that take this flop and turn line on this board then shove the river for value?

A9-J9ss, maybe T9s full, maybe A9 and 98 at some frequency. A4s/44 are close.

Fold turn to a half pot bet on that board


There should be a fair amount of 9x and some 4x in your check back range and once villain checks river we can probably rule out 9x from his range so 44 and A4 are pure value jams.


Your calling range on the turn should be something like backdoor spades, 9x, A4, A3, 44, and pairs. It seems like you may end up with too many bluffs if you start calling turn with AK,AQ and turning them into bluffs on this river.

Flop is probably a mix between small-to-medium bet and check with AKo, we actually in theory fold out a lot of stuff with decent equity against us, like JTo or some 4x with backdoor flush draws - mostly because those hands can't really continue at this SPR. We'd probably check back more AKs/AQs with backdoor flush possibilities.

Turn is a pure fold. The hands we're going to want to continue with here are our traps (like our best overpairs, sets and straights) and hands with an overcard and straight draw, like A7 or K9. Some of our best hands plus our 8x that didn't bet flop are also going to want to raise here.

On the river, I guess if we got here jamming with the As or Ks isn't the absolute worst. We will definitely have some 9x here (primarily 9x with flush draws) that called turn. We should get 5x and 6x, and maybe even some turned 7x, to fold.

The bigger issue is that if we get to the river with this hand in the first place, we might have too much air in our range which means we're prone to either overfolding or overbluffing. @Ledn kind of nailed it.

Fair enough. If you have enough value in your range here then it can't be too bad, although I think I agree with the others that vs. this turn bet size this just isn't a hand you want to continue with.

I fold turn and i think its clearly the best play without certain solid confirmed reads such as:

Has bad turn semibluff range construction that ends up with lots of unimproved queen king and ace highs on the river, coupled with tendency to check these hands on river equates to much more profit realization via free showdowns than ak gets vs a more properly constructed turn range. 6 outs much of the time helps the cause, but in itself is not enough to warrant turn call.

Or, some aggressive players have such a wide turn bet range that ak earns profit by combination of very live(and sometimes dominating) pair outs and unimproved showdown value (which is often but not always tested on the river; the less frequent and the smaller the avg river bet, the more i like my unimproved showdown value, if turn play is static; vs opponents of identical turn strategy, id prefer to continue on this turn with ak vs the more passive river strategies).

Vs opponents that often test ak high on the river, betsize tells are huge. River betsize tells can easily sway me to call the turn, but without these crucial reads calling the turn seems clearly unprofitable.

At no point in a 4 handed game under these conditions am i taking lines in single raised pots that leave me with ak near the bottom of my range, where bluff is mandatory on the river readless. 4 to a flush or straight on the board does redistribute the position of ak in my river distribution, but vs the opponents against whom im calling the turn, i have several other combos of busted draws with much less showdown value. These weaker hands are much better for bluffing the river, and the addition of ak to my shove range would be exclusively exploitive with excellent peculiar reads.