8 players left in small local tournament, 26 started. 3 people cash (sometimes 4, as ppl agree to pay bubble)

Table is Recs only, pretty weak field, people play pretty straight forward.

I have 44k sitting in SB, Blinds 1500/3000. 3 limpers, I complete with Q4s. Was tempted to jam as fold equity is pretty good, but didnÂ’t want to punt as sometimes recs do limp stronger hands.

Flop Qx6h7h. I check folds around to CO (last to act) who bets 6K into 18K.

I am torn whether we call here to not narrow range and keep in CO hands we have super dominated. Initially I felt just jamming is fine, but then I felt like IÂ’m only called by a better queen and then flipping vs. calling and keeping his range wider. CO is average younger rec, seems ABC, just doubled with KK and sits with 70Kish.

I Call. Turn 9c. Check, and now he bets 15K into 27K. I call. My thought is that heÂ’s strong here, leaning towards a QJ,QK, QT type hand. Bit of an annoying spot given I have 35K behind.
Do we ever fold here if we put him on strong hand? DidnÂ’t consider it but w/ schwarz stack sizes IÂ’m curious if folding isnÂ’t too bad here.

River is 8s, makes 4 liner. I have 20k behind, pot is 57K. I think about jamming and folding out his higher Queens, but stack sizes are awkward, as IÂ’m giving him insane odds, plus flush missed. If I have line 30-35K here I feel much better jamming. I end up checking river here, as I also feel like he could have some random Ts, mostly QT.

Anyways I didnÂ’t like how this hand unfolded and been thinking about it.

My questions:

1) Is it maybe Just better to check jam flop even though we have a huge hand? DonÂ’t think worse calls me here, but calling and then bricking turn and river also sucks. Was also thinking whether jamming is better with ICM, and picking up extra 20K even if I make a lot of worse fold is fine, and if he does call weÂ’re flipping.

2) Do we ever consider folding turn to his bigger ish sizing, when we donÂ’t really put him on bluffs?

3) Can we consider bluffing river here since it hits our range pretty hard — thinking all 9T, 8T, 87 in our range — I really did want to jam river but decided against it due to stack sizes and the incredible price I’m laying him. But I’m guessing I’m also only needing it to work a small % of time to be profitable here, so maybe worth it?

lets start from the beginning, good instinct calling, its what you should be doing 100% of the time. Additionally, with ICM people will be limping a much stronger range as the chip value, even to recs, is so much more important in your current structure.

Now that we are multi-way and cant really have an adequate solve lets discuss.

Do we ever fold here if we put him on strong hand?

I believe its less of a if we put him on a good hand, its what his limping range looks like, his limp range, account for it being a bit stronger I would say max is like QJo, I think QJs+ and KQo+ are gonna squeeze with the dead money as well as his relative deeper stack. With that being said though, he has a ton of suited hands that limp as well as middling pairs and suited connectors. Because of this you can fairly easily assume that with his line he's most likely pretty ahead of you. Not that you should put him on a single hand but to me this is such a 76,87,98,T9s line or a 66/77 line, so you're doing fairly average against it. I dont like the jam on the flop I think you just check call.

theres a famous line about how infrequently someone will bluff after winning a big hand, and its much left, I would give him adequate credit here.

keep in mind a CO limp doesn't get to flop too frequently (outside of maybe your table dynamic) so he should be fairly strong.

you 100% should consider folding OTT, I can't think of a hand you beat unless he's doing this with like JJ/TT but thats just so odd to me.

that being said, you want showdown at this point, check and hope it checks through.


what did V end up having?
ps. a personal rule of thumb for me if you are this shallow you kinda gotta play tentative as hell especially with that dynamic. I like the complete, I like the flop call, turn fold might be hero but I feel like might be the best move

Thanks for your thoughts. Definitely makes sense. FYI, though, he is more of a ABC rec, and I don’t think he really thinks about squeezing. I think he’s happy to limp a lot of hands that he should be squeezing.

I hear you on folding turn - at the tlme i felt i was too strong with FD and top pair but if we think about our pair never being good, then we’re just drawing to FD. I guess I thought my two pair outs were live too. I think folding is best turn too even though it’s kind of gross given that we Flop so well.

V ended up having 99. so he limped a hand he should have squeezed, bet the flop which makes sense and continued big on turn once he was ahead of me. I think the bigger sizing on turn showed a lot of strength so I should have folded in retrospect .