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06-19-2008 , 12:12 AM

jacquessc

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I played limit hold'em successfully for years, then switched to sngs and I'm doing fine. I'm not losing any money anyway. I'm thinking of switching to nl cash games. I find that with family pressures, on-call for work, etc, I really need to be able to stop playing at the drop of a hat, and I have a hard time doing that in a sng. Has anyone made this transition? Which of cash games or sngs is easier to make money at low stakes?

Any feedback would be great.

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06-19-2008 , 12:14 AM

kind of gray

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This question probably belongs in the STT to Cash thread.

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06-19-2008 , 03:19 AM

Fungahz

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I'd say it's easier to quickly become a winning player at $5 SNGs (or the equivalent) than say.. NL25 cash. AFAIK SNGs in general have a steeper learning curve than NLHE ring games. By this I mean, that you can learn to beat SNGs faster but you can never really crush SNGs quite like you could a cash game.

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06-19-2008 , 11:14 AM

Mr.X

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Post your question in the micro NL (uNL) forum.

The stickies will be a very good place to start.

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06-19-2008 , 11:18 AM

kind of gray

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Originally Posted by Fungahz

I would have to strongly disagree.

See: SpaceGravy

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06-19-2008 , 11:43 AM

Vorlautboy

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Originally Posted by kind of gray

I would have to strongly disagree.

See: SpaceGravy

care to explain?

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06-19-2008 , 11:44 AM

Kä²°ä®¥n

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Look up in the STT forum main page

EDIT: Noooo waiiit now it's down after my post on this thread. What have I done?!?!

Last edited by Kä²°ä®¥n; 06-19-2008 at 11:44 AM. Reason: Too much spare time

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06-19-2008 , 11:58 AM

jcawley

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its possible to have a huge edge over opponments in cash, in sng, the gap isnt so huge because there isnt much deep stack play involved.period

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06-19-2008 , 12:08 PM

kind of gray

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Originally Posted by Vorlautboy

care to explain?

He has put up $60k months more than once, and I don't think any of the regulars around here would disagree he could do it on a monthly basis if he put in the volume consistently.

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06-19-2008 , 12:11 PM

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Vorlautboy

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Originally Posted by kind of gray

He has put up $60k months more than once, and I don't think any of the regulars around here would disagree he could do it on a monthly basis if he put in the volume consistently.

how does that disprove any part of this statement?

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06-19-2008 , 12:39 PM

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kind of gray

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Originally Posted by Vorlautboy

how does that disprove any part of this statement?

Because in this day in age I would consider 50-70k a month playing SNGs crushing. I am not sure what the average win rate is in mid-stakes these days, but I don't see many graphs that eclipse spacegravy's results.

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06-19-2008 , 12:43 PM

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Vorlautboy

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Originally Posted by kind of gray

Because in this day in age I would consider 50-70k a month playing SNGs crushing.

Its possible crush cash games for way more money

a handful players having godlike results in SnGs don't change the nature of the game, which is limiting the number of options and possible mistakes by limiting the number of blind in your stack.

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06-19-2008 , 12:46 PM

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futuredoc85

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Originally Posted by kind of gray

I make similar money to spacegravy with less volume, and Spacegravy is wayyy better at SNGs than I am at cash games

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06-19-2008 , 12:47 PM

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kind of gray

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Originally Posted by Vorlautboy

Its possible crush cash games for more

a handful players having godlike results in SnGs don't change the nature of the game.

I never said it did. He said it wasn't possible to crush SNGs like cash games, I am saying it is.

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06-19-2008 , 12:48 PM

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VladKGB

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NL cash harder than SNG imo. much more read and post flop skill depedant due to deep stacks. I am in the same boat as OP, i can't devote much time to SNG's due to my schedule, so am trying to switch to NL cash games, but the transition has been tough, thank fully i am keeping afloat with RB + SNG winnings. GL OP!

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06-19-2008 , 01:10 PM

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Vorlautboy

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I regret bumping already

A top player putting in massive volume to earn 70k in a month is amazingbut:

If he had the same skilladvantage in cashgames there is no question he would have made so much more than that if the stakes hed play were comparable.

Its not possible to seize your skilldifference to the same extent in STT as in Cash.
ever

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