Sup. Have been raising a fair bit from most positions, and the same raise size, so my raises don't really mean much at this stage to any competent opponent, however this hand really stumped me. Pretty standard line for a donk I suppose, but does anyone find a fold here?

Please comment with your thoughts, thank you.

Poker Stars $15.00+$1.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t250/t500 Blinds + t60 - 8 players
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UTG: t19190 M = 15.60
UTG+1: t4620 M = 3.76
Hero (MP1): t24074 M = 19.57
MP2: t24250 M = 19.72
CO: t16376 M = 13.31
BTN: t11616 M = 9.44
SB: t30584 M = 24.87
BB: t11148 M = 9.06

Pre Flop: (t1230) Hero is MP1 with K Q
2 folds, Hero raises to t1240, 4 folds, BB raises to t2000, Hero calls t760

Flop: (t4730) 4 5 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t4730) 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (t4730) Q (2 players)
BB bets t9088 all in, Hero calls t9088

The title is a bit misleading, I apologize, didn't notice at the time.

IMO you're often behind here. His bet screams call me on that queen river. He prob guessed you hit queen which is why he shoved. I've seen this line quite alot and they show up overpairs really often.

you had position why didn't you make a delayed cbet on the turn as for the river i would have folded also don't use a spoiler

Pf is fine, have to fold river though.

I don't think i could find a fold in me here....checking AA on flop and turn? this guy is good... really good.

fold to the 3bet preflop unless he does it alot

your hand is very easily dominated

interesting spot with AQo tho since we have 1 AA blocker.


as played folding river would be really stupid

i like how villain played AA postflop tho (besides shoving river), most of your range here is A10s-AQo and overpairs to the board

You have an aggro image, and you're raising with marginal hands from middle position, this guy puts you in a tough spot since YOU know he thinks you're aggro. Learn to downshift.

pre is std, u miss ur 2p/str8/trips...now u fold. river is a really ez fold.

pretty sick to fold river and putting villain on 5x or KK+

Interesting to see the radical differences of opinion on this thread.

I would not raise preflop with KQo to begin with (it's really just not nearly as good as it looks). Were I to find myself accidentally in that situation, I'd fold to the 3-bet. As played though, I agree with furo that the river is not an "ez fold". We no longer have to worry about being dominated by AQ, and only AA, KK, the unlikely QQ, and the really unlikely 5 beat us. If I had stats that villain had a low WSD%, the fold looks easier, but otherwise I think it's hard to get away from this full boat.

Actually QQ+ but I agree with your overall sentiment.

it is very marginal at best from mp, being 50bb deep in a donkament, i dont mind it, but vs good players it is bad. When they 3bet as they do they have AK, QQ+ most of the time, since we haz da K n da Q, we callz so we can stack them. we "miss" and they over shove in a obv push for value.... river is a really really really ez fold.

I feel like you'll see JJ, TT, AK, AQ often enough here that it's not so clear.

You don see those on the river... so their range is either AQ (which dosn't make sense pre), or QQ+.

DUCY?

You're saying they will bet to protect a vulnerable overpair on an earlier street?

I certainly wouldn't 3-bet AQ preflop (except in certain situations obv.) but I see plenty of other players doing it, especially against opponents they see as raising light preflop (which the OP seemed to say he was doing).

interesting thread. fishy villains take this line a lot and i never know what they are doing because i usually cant call. the times i havwe called, im usually dead.

when a fish gets a big hand his first instinct is often lolcheckraze. When it doesnt work for two streets, they just make ******ed overbets on the river hoping for a call.

the problem for me in these spots is that fish sometimes are overly optimistic about the strength of their hand. lol @ the poster who said villian probably put hero on the Q.

I probably fold pre the first time this happens

this is a really really bad time to include results fwiw

99% of players at this level are not capable of small 3-bets OOP without a huge hand

What do you mean?

you are wrong

True, if your hand was a non dominated one, such as medium to small suited connectors, i would call that min 3bet, because if you hit, you will stack him.

But win kq o, you are mostly dominated

Fold pre everytime

yeah, I'd say mostly fold pre here. never fold the river, lol anyone saying otherwise. also, lol at the guy that called villain good.

checking flop and turn aint bad from villain, most of a 3bet flatting range is middlish pairs and ~A10s/ AJo /KQ

the pairs will bet the turn and the overs wont call a bet with these stacks

his betsizing is horrible (pre/river) but his line is fine to stack most 3bet flatting ranges