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Originally Posted by Sneaky_Suzy
You don't think we can ever chek/fold, chek/call turn in this spot?
Not as played. You might be able to deeper. You might be able to if you check and the button and SB both get it in on the turn. But there are so many really bad cards on the river that you benefit substantially from just trying to take the pot now.
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Originally Posted by Sneaky_Suzy
I know we are giving free cards to multiple draws etc.
Yes, that's a huge reason not to check here.
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Originally Posted by Sneaky_Suzy
But maybe chek and evaluate river?
When you have a strong hand, you want to get the money in while your hand is good, rather than hoping everything runs out safely, particularly from out of position.
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Originally Posted by Sneaky_Suzy
Know it seems like a really shitty, nitty, passive line. But still a J on turn completes some straight + 2 pair combos. My concern is that we're multiway, so I might be behind to several combos allready. But I thought it was a tough spot.
Some of them do, but there aren't a whole lot of those. Considering the size of the pot and what stack you have left, I'm not sure how you can do anything else. There are also a lot of hands that are worse that will call, or that just fold. I'm not exactly clear on the pot size based on how you've written up the hand, but I think you have like 2/3 pot behind? Picking up the pot is a major win for you, so even if you're only called when you're behind I think it's still going to be profitable.
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Originally Posted by Sneaky_Suzy
You think the flop line should have been different? Jamming flop, because we're 4 way? Could have made my decision easier 🙂 and maybe better with a small SPR left anyway.
I don't think you should jam 2.5x pot on the flop, no. But since you mention it, it might be a good spot for a check-raise, given that this board is decently connected and you describe the button as loose-aggressive. In general I rarely c-bet out of position and against this many players, regardless of my holding, unless I'm so short that jamming is a reasonable play. And even if this checks through, then you can decide how to play the turn and river in a pot at a much more controlled size and accounting for how the turn changes your equity based on how it connects to the board, rather than finding yourself in the situation you do here.