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10-18-2016 , 12:49 PM
    Poker Stars, $3 Buy-in (1,200/2,400 blinds, 300 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    SB: 104,207 (43.4 bb)
    BB: 151,704 (63.2 bb)
    UTG+2: 52,864 (22 bb)
    Hero (MP1): 124,252 (51.8 bb)
    MP2: 12,731 (5.3 bb)
    MP3: 72,840 (30.4 bb)
    CO: 158,768 (66.2 bb)
    BTN: 46,301 (19.3 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K K
    UTG+2 folds, Hero raises to 6,000, MP2 folds, MP3 raises to 14,200, 4 folds, Hero calls 8,200

    Flop: (34,400) 4 4 7 (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP3 bets 9,600, Hero calls 9,600

    Turn: (53,600) 8 (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP3 bets 48,740 and is all-in, Hero calls 48,740

    River: (151,080) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)



    His 3bet was 1.4% when we played this hand (VPIP/PFR like 15/11 or 14/10). Any way to escape from this?
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    10-18-2016 , 01:13 PM
    jam pre man..if he has AA then say "nh" in the chat
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    10-18-2016 , 01:23 PM
    Reraise pre....bet flop.

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    10-18-2016 , 01:30 PM
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    Originally Posted by MyLastGamble
    Reraise pre....bet flop.

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    Don't really like the 4 bet, looks too strong and might fold out weaker hands
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    10-18-2016 , 01:44 PM
    Probably, but wouldn't jamming pre do the same thing? I think a ransom V would call a 4 bet over a jam putting their tournament life at stake with a marginal hand , but I could be wrong.

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    10-18-2016 , 10:05 PM
    Standard would be to shove pre, but calling is fine, you keep in his bluffs (if he has any). On this runout you just cant fold, he could still have at least JJ,QQ, maybe TT and the occasional bluff.
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    10-18-2016 , 10:52 PM
    Just jam this pre it shouldn't even be a question when villain has 30bb.
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    10-19-2016 , 05:07 AM
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    Originally Posted by FranklinDRooseFELT
    Just jam this pre it shouldn't even be a question when villain has 30bb.
    I don't mind flatting our monsters but when he re-raises off 30bb then its highly unlikely he's going to fold tbh.

    As played you srs gotta jam over the flop bet. Still going to get called by JJ+and if he has aces then gg and move on.

    Playing super scared with the 2nd best hand in holdem in $3 micro tourney because of tiny stats is ridiculous.
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    10-19-2016 , 06:57 AM
    Props just jam pre, but as played I don't understand the question. You flatted to keep villains bottom part of range in. What else you can do than call it off?
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    10-19-2016 , 08:16 AM
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    Originally Posted by Puzo
    Props just jam pre, but as played I don't understand the question. You flatted to keep villains bottom part of range in. What else you can do than call it off?
    Question is can we get away from KK?! cmon Puzo! He obviously ran into aces and feels the poker good flor (flop+thor) are against him and he should make a miracle lay down in a 3$ donkament on a super ****ty board for a nit.
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    10-19-2016 , 08:25 AM
    nah I just played few thousands of those 3$ donkaments and I have a little idea about playerpool's tendencies, therefore I know people are unbalanced as f there, especially when they have less than 2% of 3bet.
    but Puzo is right I guess, can't escape from this spot if I didn't fold preflop. also agree with you that I should jam over flop bet
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    10-19-2016 , 09:10 AM
    How many hands have you played with nit?
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    10-19-2016 , 10:03 AM
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    Originally Posted by Glaciem
    Question is can we get away from KK?! cmon Puzo! He obviously ran into aces and feels the poker good flor (flop+thor) are against him and he should make a miracle lay down in a 3$ donkament on a super ****ty board for a nit.
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    Originally Posted by Marecki
    nah I just played few thousands of those 3$ donkaments and I have a little idea about playerpool's tendencies, therefore I know people are unbalanced as f there, especially when they have less than 2% of 3bet.
    but Puzo is right I guess, can't escape from this spot if I didn't fold preflop. also agree with you that I should jam over flop bet
    No we can't. Even the biggest nit of the nits has wider 3b range than KK+. Vs QQ+\AK we have more than enough eq than needed.

    I really doubt that a guy like this would spew postflop with AK, so its either QQ or AA. Maby he feels like a lag today and puts JJ in his range

    I agree that ppl are super unbalanced most of the time in these. I remember one guy who I played against almost daily couple of years ago. Had a few thousand hands sample. VPIP like 10 and His 3b was something like 4%, but only shortstacked. Deep he only 3b QQ+ and ober 30bb opens were ridic tight too.

    I learned after couple of "standard" spots that JJ was no good to 3b or 4b jam vs him if we were 30bb-ish deep.
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    10-19-2016 , 12:01 PM
    Never folding KK on this board without an absolute soul read (which we won't have). I gii pre or on flop.
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    10-19-2016 , 03:56 PM
    You are never getting out alive pf or at the end but i bet you ended up with a nice stack when he flips his QQ or whatever

    Jam over flop bet

    or 4bet pf to 35-37k and let him shove it in bad and call
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    10-20-2016 , 06:42 AM
    Jam pre, villain has 30 bbs.. can't get too tricky here without him having to shove anyways.
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    10-20-2016 , 08:17 AM
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    Originally Posted by Glaciem
    How many hands have you played with nit?
    150-170, not really a huge sample but still, as I said should r/c pre and x/jam flop but I'm pretty sure I'm folding queens pre in this spot
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    10-20-2016 , 11:45 AM
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    Originally Posted by Marecki
    150-170, not really a huge sample but still, as I said should r/c pre and x/jam flop but I'm pretty sure I'm folding queens pre in this spot
    Yeah think either GII pre or jam over the bet on the flop.

    You have the read on the vil, not us. If u feel that QQis too weak against his 3b range then fold it. Like Puzo said sometimes you have these solid reads on players and adapt to them.
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    10-20-2016 , 02:48 PM
    If you dont want to make your decision hard, just 4b/call prf If he has AA than its a cooler, nh and move on.

    I dont like jaming it over flop bet, you can make him fold the ocassional JJ,TT and bluffs, if he has any at all at his range here.

    I can see him taking this line with AhQh or QQ. Those are the only hands that make sense and that you beat. Over all I think the hand played itself out in a sense. You just cant fold KK there unless you have a read on the opponent and you are sure, that he has AA.

    Do you have your stats selected out based on the number of BBs that the player has, number of players at the table or anything like that?
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    10-20-2016 , 04:46 PM
    Nh, I woulda played it the same vs described V. If I didnt have Kh, I woulda c/jammed the flop.
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    10-21-2016 , 04:41 AM
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    Originally Posted by abecede
    Do you have your stats selected out based on the number of BBs that the player has, number of players at the table or anything like that?
    No, but in this spot I don't think it matters - if he had a 1.4% 3bet and we would be playing 5handed then this could matter imo
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    10-21-2016 , 07:29 AM
    Pre is fancy play imo. If he is not light just 4bjam and gii.
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    10-22-2016 , 04:50 AM
    yes deffo dont close the action pre
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