Pacific Poker - 500/1000 Ante 125 NL - Holdem - 8 players
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55 dollar buy-in, I think I over played my hand and it cost me

BB is $1000

Hero (SB): 30.8 BB
BB: 39.53 BB vpip 35-3-3b7, 40 hands
UTG: 81.1 BB vpip 34-18-3b-0, 52 hands
UTG+1: 9.75 BB
MP: 24.99 BB
MP+1: 9.34 BB
CO: 83.86 BB
BTN: 35.86 BB

8 players post ante of 0.13 BB, Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.5 BB) Hero has A Q

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 5 BB, BB raises to 20 BB, fold, Hero raises to 30.67 BB and is all-in, BB calls 10.67 BB

Flop: (63.35 BB, 2 players) 7 5 T

Turn: (63.35 BB, 2 players) 4

River: (63.35 BB, 2 players) 3


Will show result upon request. any help will be appreciated

Call 20. Shove flop.

With only being able to make a 25% pot shove what do you think is folding??

You can probably fold to the 3-bet against a 35/3 player unless you saw he had some light 3-bets earlier.

Against a more standard range I think it's probably fine, but with those stats on BB I think it's probably correct to just give him credit.

Yeah, I was about to say this was pretty standard until I saw the 35/3 line, and then it's probably really close. If we don't think villain ever has the AJ-AT-type hands here I can get behind folding. I'd actually have been more inclined to call off if the BB shoved than when they make it this weird size.

One point: we don't need to go 5BB pre off of 30BB, probably something more like 3.25-3.5BB is fine. When we go 5 off 30 we kind of commit ourselves when our opponent 3-bets, whereas we can still see flops or even get away if we bet smaller and our opponent 3-bets to a normal size.

It's from SB against a limper, hence the size. Still might be a little big at that stack depth but I don't mind 4BB.

UTG limped in so I raised it to 5bb but yeah maybe it was too big of a raise. thanks for you input

4BB over the limp is probably still ok, once we get to 5BB we get into weird spots at our stack size when we face 3-bets.

I would also raise to ~4 bb from the SB. I am basically at 3.1x over limpers at 30 bb's (anything under 50 bb's) and an additional 1x for being SB or BB.

AQ is the hand I get knocked out of tournaments the most with followed by JJ. AQs is tough because we get the additional few % flush possibilities on the all in.

Given tightness of BB I would probably fold. But given we have AQs I might call. Often my hands are moving my chips in before my brain can think it through. I think BB range can be TT+/AK which is not good for us.

What also factors in is how we have looked at this point. If we have 3-bet a bunch before then our range will look wide and BB might be shoving with hands like ATs/AJ. Also 77+. If we haven't been aggressive much then this is a fold vs BB.

Also I don't get if there are 8 guys at our table or 8 guys left in the tournament and we are in the money. If we are in the money at the Final table I am usually folding this with two guys at < 10 bb's and a really tight BB. Down to 25 bb's I usually do better first in on 3-bets rather than calling 3-bets.

thanks. great answer

Those 35-3 serial limpers rarely have a bluff 3bet range, especially from the BB against such a large raise. I realize its a small sample size of hands, but its enough to see that he limps/calls a lot and doesn't hit the raise button very often. You're probably up against something like TT+ AQ+ and just praying he has AJ. Not an ideal situation, and if this is a final table its even worse given all the short stacks and ICM pressure.