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11-03-2009 , 04:15 AM

Squadooooosh

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 407

Flame away, villain was 32/7/52 after 54 hands and completly luckboxing

Poker Stars $3.00+$0.30 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t150/t300 Blinds + t25 - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (CO): t9635 M = 14.27
BTN: t17590 M = 26.06
SB: t2848 M = 4.22
BB: t45344 M = 67.18
UTG: t3283 M = 4.86
UTG+1: t5205 M = 7.71
UTG+2: t33430 M = 49.53
MP1: t22733 M = 33.68
MP2: t7780 M = 11.53

Pre Flop: (t675) Hero is CO with J

2 folds, UTG+2 raises to t900, 2 folds, Hero raises to t1800, 3 folds, UTG+2 calls t900

Flop: (t4275) A

(2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets t7810 all in, UTG+2 calls t7810

Turn: (t19895) 7

(2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t19895) 7

(2 players - 1 is all in)

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11-03-2009 , 04:22 AM

bridgey321

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 274

3 bet size too small.

all in looks fine to me here vs vill with these stats & stack sizes.

Does anyone think we can flat? im not keen personally

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11-03-2009 , 04:34 AM

furo

deviation of equilibrium

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 29,639

3bet larger/call, i'd make it 3.3k to have a PSB to shove
flop sucks >:-/

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11-03-2009 , 06:44 AM

bleffo19

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 4,531

pre is lame. do you actually expect him to fold any hands when you min-raise him? 3-bet it to like ~2.5k. flatting is meh coz it will put you in alot of spots where you're gonna have to give up easily.

otf that shove plain sucks. we are never folding out better, and only getting called by hands that have us beat. it's pretty unnecessary too - we are shoving 25BB's into a 14BB pot. i check back and hope to catch a J. failing that i call a small barrel OTT and cry/fold river

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11-03-2009 , 09:15 AM

PageUp

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,386

It's real bad

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11-04-2009 , 06:39 AM

+QualityControl+

newbie

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 28

dont like the minraise. but if u minraise, take the chance and try to get away from ur hand.

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11-04-2009 , 06:46 AM

Protential

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 12,460

shove pre.

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11-04-2009 , 07:34 AM

Dragos

centurion

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 137

3 bet more...like 2500-2600 and check flop, reevaluate on turn.

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11-04-2009 , 07:43 AM

blind squirrel

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 8,195

nm, his raising stats aren´t that loose so shipping pre isn´t better than 3betting imo.

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11-04-2009 , 07:53 AM

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Mingdu

veteran

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,271

Meh, you could have played it better but at this level the result is likely the same, maybe you fold at some point with the A on the board. The worst part of the hand for you and your game is that a luckbox has you on tilt.

I can never understand why people get upset with bad play. Over time it puts money in my pocket.

You should be happy he's at your table, not annoyed.

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11-04-2009 , 09:07 AM

#11

JMurder3

not god, probably jebus

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 53,649

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11-04-2009 , 01:54 PM

#12

leez13

centurion

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 194

definitely shove pf. he's deep stacked and can certainly call you you with hands that are dominated. by min raising pf you almost guarantee that he will call given how deep he is. you definitely maximize your value by shoving pf imo. you give him a chance to see a flop and potentially hit a hand that beats you or get away from hands that you are ahead of. stick it in pf my man.

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11-04-2009 , 02:25 PM

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aces_full1963

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Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,972

Hate the min raise pre...just shove. As played it's bad to shove the flop, you will only get called by better.

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11-04-2009 , 02:31 PM

#14

X Trip X

centurion

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 124

shove pre. looking to double off a big stack with JJ

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